Best Ever Albums

Re: Overrated artists

jdenny2018 — Thu, 25 Oct 2018 13:25:46 GMT

Author: jdenny2018

Posted: 10/25/2018 17:25

21stCenturySchiz wrote:

The Beach Boys- I like the hits but i personally can't get into the albums. Not bad but i just prefer them as a singles band. Maybe i'll try the albums again.

baystateoftheart wrote:

The Beach Boys are one of my favorite bands, but many of their albums are not consistently good. The most significant exceptions are Pet Sounds and The Smile Sessions - great throughout and worth checking out again. Wild Honey is probably my #3 Beach Boys album, but it's nowhere near the level of those two.

Check out Surf's Up as well. It's one of my favorite BB records.

Re: Overrated artists

baystateoftheart — Thu, 25 Oct 2018 13:14:39 GMT

Author: baystateoftheart

Posted: 10/25/2018 17:14

21stCenturySchiz wrote:

The Beach Boys- I like the hits but i personally can't get into the albums. Not bad but i just prefer them as a singles band. Maybe i'll try the albums again.

Re: Overrated artists

21stCenturySchiz — Thu, 25 Oct 2018 13:09:08 GMT

Author: 21stCenturySchiz

Posted: 10/25/2018 17:09

I have a few artists that could fall into some sub categories

Artists I like/own albums of that i find overrated

Pink Floyd- I love and appreciate them for what they have done and i like a lot of their songs, but other than Dark Side of The Moon I don't find myself going back to too often. The occasional listen to The Wall and Piper i find great though

Bob Dylan- I own almost everything he's done because i went through a Dylan phase in Late-Middle School. But with that being said I can't go back to Dylan too often. I don't know if it's that i can't stand his voice as much anymore or what. But I occasionally go back and i love it

The Beach Boys- I like the hits but i personally can't get into the albums. Not bad but i just prefer them as a singles band. Maybe i'll try the albums again.

Now for Artists I just am not a fan of

Lynyrd Skynyrd, Allman Brothers, or just any Southern Rock other than CCR- I'm sure I'm missing out but other than Creedence, I don't find anything interesting other than the occastional song or 2. (Example- Gimme Three Steps by Lynyrd Skynyrd is awesome)

The Sex Pistols- I used to loathe them. I don't as much now but I still am not the biggest fan. Love the music, but Johnny Rotten's voice is hard for me to listen to for long periods of time

Bruce Springsteen- Other than Born To Run and Born In The USA, i'm just not interested in him. He seems like a cool guy though

U2- I can't stand anything this band does. I can't stand the songs. I don't know if this is because i heard all of the christian artists that they influenced before hand or not but i find nothing remarkable about this band

Re: Overrated artists

Anonymous — Tue, 23 Oct 2018 09:49:55 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 10/23/2018 13:49

Romanelli wrote:

jdenny2018 wrote:

I think what really bothers me is Dylan's 'holier than thou' attitude towards everybody. He's been called a musical prophet, and just the way he talks annoys me how every word drips with cynicism and disdain for everything.

Well...in his career that has spanned nearly 60 years (how old are you?), I kind of think he's earned the right to be however pompous as fuck as he wants to be. And in your less than stellar musical career...who are you to judge him for having an opinion? Does he judge you for your opinions?

Really...threads like this suck. All they do is focus on the negatives about people we have no real knowledge about what goes on in their heads or their worlds. Enough, already...and if you dislike someone's music because they may think differently than you want them to, then damn...your loss. You want to dismiss a body of work like Dylan's because you don't like his attitude? That's really closed minded, and foolish.

:(

Come on, a bit of iconoclasm hasn't hurt anyone ! And he's got a point

Re: Overrated artists

jdenny2018 — Mon, 22 Oct 2018 20:28:59 GMT

Author: jdenny2018

Posted: 10/23/2018 00:28

Romanelli wrote:

jdenny2018 wrote:

Couple of things:

1: I'm 22

2: Other than playing the trumpet through school and singing in my car and the shower, I'm not a musician. I just like music.

3: I don't care how he thinks or his opinions, I just think his attitude is kind of shitty.

4: If people only expressed opinions with a clear and unbiased insight into every musician's mind, these threads would be empty.

5: Look back through the thread. I've already admonished myself for not trying Dylan's discography again and mention my own desire to improve my musical horizons.

As for these threads sucking, I think that's a little short sighted. As long as people are respectful and open to differing opinions, these threads can be a bastion for thoughtful discussion about why music affects us the way it does. I had been softening my opinion on Bob Dylan and was open to trying his albums again, and you came in here and attacked me for simply saying I don't like his attitude. That's not fostering an environment for thoughtful discussion. I get you're defending Bob Dylan and his legacy, but there are better ways to do so than attacking me on a personal level and saying I have a "less than stellar career."

I'm sorry to take up so much space on this thread, I just thought this needed to be said.

Let's all get back to talking to why we love music instead of yelling at each other for not having the same opinion.

Godspeed music junkies

Re: Overrated artists

Romanelli — Mon, 22 Oct 2018 19:01:41 GMT

Author: Romanelli

Posted: 10/22/2018 23:01

jdenny2018 wrote:

Re: Overrated artists

AfterHours — Mon, 22 Oct 2018 18:43:03 GMT

Author: AfterHours

Posted: 10/22/2018 22:43

rkm wrote:

Hey, AfterHours. Last statement, thinking aloud. The whole thing is thinking aloud, really. I’m not trying to be argumentative.

Cool man, I dig it - all good 😄

Re: Overrated artists

rkm — Mon, 22 Oct 2018 16:36:03 GMT

Author: rkm

Posted: 10/22/2018 20:36

Hey, AfterHours. Last statement, thinking aloud. The whole thing is thinking aloud, really. I’m not trying to be argumentative.

Re: Overrated artists

AfterHours — Mon, 22 Oct 2018 13:57:10 GMT

Author: AfterHours

Posted: 10/22/2018 17:57

rkm wrote:

AfterHours wrote:

Funny 🤣 but not a particularly relevant analogy for what I said...

...but one could probably observe each of their qualities and characteristics and determine which are the most contributive to the development of humanity, the animal kingdom and Earth itself.

Your analogy would be closer if there were multiple tests: climb a tree; hold your breath under water the longest; withstand Antarctic weather the longest etc. It would still be you or me, sitting in that chair, imposing the tests and viewing through whichever lens/lenses we choose.

Seth’s trying to understand why it is he would enjoy he process of these animal olympics, but wouldn’t necessarily like to hang out with the winner.

I’m thinking about if those animals formed a band (even though they may not be the best example of each animal), why it is that they might be able to achieve something greater than the sum of the parts, or achieve something for which there is no test.

It’s a mystery to me, but complexity isn’t always better, and neither is simplicity. Sometimes, if you break things down to their components, the magic quietly steps out the back door, or finds another place to be.

It seems like you have missed that I never imposed "which" or "what" technique or "which" or "what" type of vocalist etc. Or, if youre referring to my criteria in general: "which" or "what" expressions/emotion/concept/genre etc. There are no restrictions save determination of quality thereof - if one could classify that as a "restriction".

Your final message is a curious notion but I dont know what youre referring to in regards to this or if you were just thinking aloud <-- in which case, cool.

Re: Overrated artists

Anonymous — Mon, 22 Oct 2018 11:52:59 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 10/22/2018 15:52

all rock bands

Re: Overrated artists

craola — Mon, 22 Oct 2018 11:44:39 GMT

Author: craola

Posted: 10/22/2018 15:44

rkm wrote:

It’s a mystery to me, but complexity isn’t always better, and neither is simplicity. Sometimes, if you break things down to their components, the magic quietly steps out the back door, or finds another place to be.

well said.

Re: Overrated artists

Fischman — Mon, 22 Oct 2018 09:55:44 GMT

Author: Fischman

Posted: 10/22/2018 13:55

jdenny2018 wrote:

Well, there is that as well.

Re: Overrated artists

Fischman — Mon, 22 Oct 2018 09:53:09 GMT

Author: Fischman

Posted: 10/22/2018 13:53

baystateoftheart wrote:

We all get that you don't like Bob Dylan. But why are you jumping in to try to persuade someone else against trying out something they might like?

It sounds like he already doesn't like it. He doesn't need my "persuasion." He may or may not choose to investigate further.

Life is short and the world of music is huge... really, really huge. If you already have significant indicators you're into an artist, why push it when the same time and effort could yield greater likelihood of success by continuing to expand elsewhere? Maybe that's just me... I love so much music across so many genres that I know there's no way I can digest it all before I die, so I have to do some culling along the way. But again, that's just my approach and I don't necessarily advocate it to everyone else.

Re: Overrated artists

Hayden — Sun, 21 Oct 2018 23:10:51 GMT

Author: Hayden

Posted: 10/22/2018 03:10

jdenny2018 wrote:

I don't get why 'Like a Rolling Stone' is considered such an amazing song. But, wahtever.

Just wait until you become the stone of which he wrote.

Didn't know there were so many not-Dylan fans on here 😐 (between this and the 'highest unlistened' thread).

I dunno, give a few more of his albums a shot though (pre-1977... or like, his 1996-2004 phase). Can't see how you'd think he's a Woody Guthrie wannabe. That's... an odd comparison.

Re: Overrated artists

baystateoftheart — Sun, 21 Oct 2018 22:30:04 GMT

Author: baystateoftheart

Posted: 10/22/2018 02:30

jdenny2018 wrote:

I will most definitely check it out. I should probably get off my ass and listen to Bob Dylan's stuff already. I got on this website to expand my musical horizons, and dammit I should do so haha. Also BayStateofTheArt, your profile picture is outstanding.

😄 Looking forward to hearing your thoughts.

Thanks! I liked a fruit sticker* so much I stuck it to my wall and took pictures of it 🤣

*Yes most people think a butternut squash is a vegetable, but it is a fruit! #ediblepedantry

Re: Overrated artists

jdenny2018 — Sun, 21 Oct 2018 22:11:12 GMT

Author: jdenny2018

Posted: 10/22/2018 02:11

baystateoftheart wrote:

jdenny2018 wrote:

I listened to Blood on the Tracks and was completely unaffected. I've also listened to his hits and been kind of ambivalent towards them. For instance, I don't get why 'Like a Rolling Stone' is considered such an amazing song. But, wahtever.

And to Fischman, his voice isn't really the problem for me. I've listened to Geddy Lee's wail for years so Dylan's nasal tone is nothing to me.

I think what really bothers me is Dylan's 'holier than thou' attitude towards everybody. He's been called a musical prophet, and just the way he talks annoys me how every word drips with cynicism and disdain for everything.

Hmm... Maybe check out Nashville Skyline. Perhaps his most unpretentious, uncynical work. And I know his voice isn't an issue for you, but that album also features his smoothest vocals. It's Dylan taking on country and doing a damn good job. And it has a duet with Johnny Cash, whom I see you like. My dad dislikes Dylan like you, but loves Nashville Skyline.

Re: Overrated artists

baystateoftheart — Sun, 21 Oct 2018 22:02:20 GMT

Author: baystateoftheart

Posted: 10/22/2018 02:02

jdenny2018 wrote:

Re: Overrated artists

rkm — Sun, 21 Oct 2018 22:01:35 GMT

Author: rkm

Posted: 10/22/2018 02:01

AfterHours wrote:

Re: Overrated artists

jdenny2018 — Sun, 21 Oct 2018 22:00:36 GMT

Author: jdenny2018

Posted: 10/22/2018 02:00

jdenny2018 wrote:

and Bob Dylan is just trying to be Woody Guthrie. That and Bob Dylan is horribly boring to me.

AfterHours wrote:

:shock:

Kinda like how Captain Beefheart was just trying to be Howlin' Wolf. Or how The Doors were just trying to be Roy Orbison. Or how The Rolling Stones were just trying to be Chuck Berry. Or how TS Eliot was just trying to be Sarah Josepha Hale.

🤔

:D

This comment refers to me listening to Dust Bowl Ballads and immediately thinking that this was pre-electric Bob Dylan.

Re: Overrated artists

jdenny2018 — Sun, 21 Oct 2018 21:54:34 GMT

Author: jdenny2018

Posted: 10/22/2018 01:54

baystateoftheart wrote:

What Bob Dylan albums have you listened to? There is some diversity in his albums, so even if you haven't liked what you've heard so far, it's possible that something for you is out there.