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Re: reviews site

RFNAPLES — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:30:40 GMT

Author: RFNAPLES

Posted: 10/13/2011 01:30

Put it to bed.

Re: reviews site

GARY — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 19:21:56 GMT

Author: GARY

Posted: 10/12/2011 23:21

GARY wrote:

an_outlaw wrote:

GARY wrote:

an_outlaw wrote:

Someone give me a top 1000 (or close getting in the top 1000) album and I'll listen to it again and review. See if I am up to this 😜

I'll take the first one given to me tonight

Powerslave

Iron Maiden

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Aye 😁 I'll be on to it. I have the cd in my room

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It's been 5 days outlaw

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Make that 6 days now. 😲

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Re: reviews site

GARY — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 11:10:53 GMT

Author: GARY

Posted: 10/12/2011 15:10

an_outlaw wrote:

GARY wrote:

an_outlaw wrote:

Someone give me a top 1000 (or close getting in the top 1000) album and I'll listen to it again and review. See if I am up to this 😜

I'll take the first one given to me tonight

Powerslave

Iron Maiden

🤔

.

Aye 😁 I'll be on to it. I have the cd in my room

🤔

It's been 5 days outlaw

.

Re: reviews site

alelsupreme — Sat, 8 Oct 2011 14:52:31 GMT

Author: alelsupreme

Posted: 10/08/2011 18:52

I'm interested and will contribute.

Re: reviews site

Anonymous — Sat, 8 Oct 2011 14:49:02 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 10/08/2011 18:49

Anyone who is interested in this just a bit of fun/could be cool concept: it has become apparent that it is not desired that we speak about this on BEA. I understand to an extent why. If you are still interested in being involved in this concept somewhere down the line please private message me and I will get back to you about where and when we should talk about this.

JUST TO BE VERY CLEAR: This is not me or anyone else leaving BEA (please no one try to insinuate this though it may be a golden opportunity to cast aspersions on those involved). I very much love BEA and will continue using it no matter what. It's unfortunate that this discourse had to occur and I sincerely hope it doesn't affect future matters on BEA. I also apologise for how dramatic this has all become, I really don't understand it...

Re: reviews site

19loveless91 — Sat, 8 Oct 2011 14:36:54 GMT

Author: 19loveless91

Posted: 10/08/2011 18:36

CellarDoor wrote:

That double display is kind of what I had in mind. Looks great !!

The grade seems unnecessary though. Most double reviews will turn out C+ average, which won't mean much in the end.

The reviews should be left open to vote, and an average grade should appear for each review.
There could be some kind of arrow (like for a weight) in the middle, leaning to one side or another :)

I don't think there should always be one bad vs one good review. It doesn't seem fair that the albums will always be represented in the same way (ie with one bad and one good review), even if one is universally loved while the other is loved only by one person. But I guess if you do that, then the average rating shouldn't just be an average of those two reviewers but an average of everybody's rating - ie you let everybody to vote (then again if you want your site to be connected to BEA you could still link the reviewed album to the album page on BEA and show the rank and avg rating that the album has on this site).

About the grades.. I'm not used of letter grades as our school system doesn't use them, but I think I could eventually adapt to them. Although I wouldn't exactly use the "F=0, A+=100" system, I think that F as a failing grade should cover more ground compared to other grades. I'm thinking sth along the lines of F being the same as 0-25 on the scale BEA uses - the point is that the grades 0-25 are still only about 1 star (or less) in the 5 star system, which eventually gets translated into what is a failing grade from where I come from. And I guess I see the grade "C" similar to the three star rating or 60/100 on this scale - meaning an average album (but that could just be my sistem though)

Re: reviews site

Anonymous — Sat, 8 Oct 2011 14:35:28 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 10/08/2011 18:35

CellarDoor wrote:

Thoughts ???

Unknown Pleasures is definitely NOT a C.

That CellarDoor is a usurper !!

haha thought you'd like that one 😉

CellarDoor wrote:

The grade seems unnecessary though. Most double reviews will turn out C+ average, which won't mean much in the end.

yeah I was thinking the same but in a way it does mean that if an album gets an A overall or an F overall it would really hit home what it meant.

CellarDoor wrote:

The reviews should be left open to vote, and an average grade should appear for each review.
There could be some kind of arrow (like for a weight) in the middle, leaning to one side or another

I like the idea
The only thing is (and get ready for some delusions of grandeur 🤣 ) if say a site like metacritic wanted to count our review towards an albums total how would they decide what score was our official one? this is why I came up with the idea of having an overall score type thing. But it's definitley something to think about.

Re: reviews site

RFNAPLES — Sat, 8 Oct 2011 14:31:26 GMT

Author: RFNAPLES

Posted: 10/08/2011 18:31

überlegen

Re: reviews site

CellarDoor — Sat, 8 Oct 2011 14:25:14 GMT

Author: CellarDoor

Posted: 10/08/2011 18:25

RFNAPLES wrote:

itsit wrote:

I know, we could have the other people who are going to be reviewers give their grades but not reviews. an average rating isn't very good if it's only got two grades going into it.

Unless they come from the former BEA super elite reviewers!

Cynic or sarcastic I don't quite know.

But then you didn't say über elite.

Re: reviews site

RFNAPLES — Sat, 8 Oct 2011 14:03:54 GMT

Author: RFNAPLES

Posted: 10/08/2011 18:03

itsit wrote:

I know, we could have the other people who are going to be reviewers give their grades but not reviews. an average rating isn't very good if it's only got two grades going into it.

Unless they come from the former BEA super elite reviewers!

Re: reviews site

alelsupreme — Sat, 8 Oct 2011 13:55:18 GMT

Author: alelsupreme

Posted: 10/08/2011 17:55

I know, we could have the other people who are going to be reviewers give their grades but not reviews. an average rating isn't very good if it's only got two grades going into it.

Re: reviews site

Hayden — Sat, 8 Oct 2011 13:55:01 GMT

Author: Hayden

Posted: 10/08/2011 17:55

RFNAPLES wrote:

The sizzle is nice but the meat counts.

Yes. But music is like bacon 😉 , The sizzle makes you want to get out of bed.

Also, the Unknown Pleasures review imitation gave me an idea. How about everyone participating would have their own niche or genre? That would be the first review, then the second review could be by whoever.

Does this make sense? 😕 I don't really know how to explain an example, but basically:

Say my niche was hip-hop (which I wouldn't mind btw), i would review hip-hop albums, and the second review could be written by the person with the metal-niche, and their view on the album.

This is just the start of my concept, but it could be elaborated.

Re: reviews site

RFNAPLES — Sat, 8 Oct 2011 13:48:46 GMT

Author: RFNAPLES

Posted: 10/08/2011 17:48

The sizzle is nice but the meat counts.

Re: reviews site

Hayden — Sat, 8 Oct 2011 13:36:38 GMT

Author: Hayden

Posted: 10/08/2011 17:36

I like look, and concept. Of course, as you said, not final colours, but I like the shapes used, and the feel. I like how the reviews surround the album. Well thought out Jhereko 😄

2 things I want to bring up though,

1. I don't think we should do the albums by grade-system. Just looks a bit weird to me. It's a simpler rating style, but that might just be my opinion. Maybe use 10/10 star ratings? Like NME? The review could only be out of either 1/10, 2/10, 3/10, 4/10, 5/10, etc...But when the average comes up, it's in point system, like Pitchfork-kinda.

IE:

3/10 on one side, 8/10 on the other, would mean a 5.5 Average.

Opinions? 😨

2. Cellar would never give Unkown pleasures a 'C' 🤣

Re: reviews site

CellarDoor — Sat, 8 Oct 2011 13:26:34 GMT

Author: CellarDoor

Posted: 10/08/2011 17:26

That double display is kind of what I had in mind. Looks great !!

The grade seems unnecessary though. Most double reviews will turn out C+ average, which won't mean much in the end.

The reviews should be left open to vote, and an average grade should appear for each review.
There could be some kind of arrow (like for a weight) in the middle, leaning to one side or another 😄

Re: reviews site

CellarDoor — Sat, 8 Oct 2011 13:21:46 GMT

Author: CellarDoor

Posted: 10/08/2011 17:21

Thoughts ???

Unknown Pleasures is definitely NOT a C.

That CellarDoor is a usurper !!

Re: reviews site

Anonymous — Sat, 8 Oct 2011 12:47:52 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 10/08/2011 16:47

okay so I've mocked up a couple of screenshots. Bear in mind they are incredibly rough and that the colour scheme/typeface/everything means nothing at this point and is not a decision (and certainly not the site name lol). This is just to get the idea across to people. I'm gonna mention once again how fantastic CellarDoor's idea is despite some very very vague similarites in other unconnected pieces.

okay firstly:

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now imagine for a second Achtung Baby is a new album for the sake of why 2 reviews are written in such close time to each other. The other point to note with if it was a new album is that (at this point (this is obviously up for discusiion)) they are only written by site staff. Now as you can see you have 2 (very badly written 🤣 ) reviews for the same album that are quite opposing and have completely contrasting final ratings, i've used the grade system in the example obviously because that's what I want but that still hasn't been discussed yet and is far from set in stone. You can imagine that the F is a 0 and the A+ is a 100. Ands that the C+ is a 50 (just for those that are wondering when the grading system is given numerical values it does work out to an accurate average). So rather than have a whole panel of people rating the 2 people who reviewed the album rate the album and that rating is then filtered down to the overall average which is what other sites/publications would record the site as giving the album.

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Okay this second one ties into the gradually growing database for older albums idea. With older albums non-staff users would be able to submit their reviews (see right side panel) and it may or may not be published to the discretion of the Editors (not the band) obviously to keep quality control. Also note that if an album has only 1 review the overall grade remains what that one review grade it.

SO i'll reiterate again none of this is certain/set in stone all is up for change/dispute if necessary. Thoughts?

Re: reviews site

CellarDoor — Sat, 8 Oct 2011 12:22:15 GMT

Author: CellarDoor

Posted: 10/08/2011 16:22

GARY wrote:

CellarDoor wrote:

Link

Lol - FAIL !!

Link

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Schwarz Nigga

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Re: reviews site

GARY — Sat, 8 Oct 2011 12:12:57 GMT

Author: GARY

Posted: 10/08/2011 16:12

CellarDoor wrote:

Link

Lol - FAIL !!

Link

Re: reviews site

CellarDoor — Sat, 8 Oct 2011 10:44:45 GMT

Author: CellarDoor

Posted: 10/08/2011 14:44

Link

Lol - FAIL !!