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                            <title>Re: Closed- 2018 BTT- Crazy Classic Life v Noid</title>
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                            <description>Author: &lt;a href='https://www.besteveralbums.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=35882'&gt;cestuneblague&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Noid 14-6&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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                            <dc:creator>cestuneblague</dc:creator>
                            <pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2019 19:39:34 GMT</pubDate>
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                            <title>Re: Closed- 2018 BTT- Crazy Classic Life v Noid</title>
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                            <description>Author: &lt;a href='https://www.besteveralbums.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=27018'&gt;mickilennial&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                          Posted: 02/24/2019 00:13&lt;br /&gt;
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                          &lt;/span&gt;&lt;table class=&quot;bbquote-container&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td class=&quot;text-left&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;travelful wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;bbquote&quot;&gt;I loved The Archandroid, but since that record I feel like Janelle Monae has progressively gotten worse and worse. I think I scored Dirty Computer a 45/100, which is sad for me because I think I gave The Archandroid like a 90/100 or something.&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm not interested in Crazy Classic Life, its just seems too manufactured and generic, which was my main complaint with the whole album. Here's my review of the album I have in my 2018 chart for any of you that wanna get outraged  &lt;span class=&quot;emoji&quot; title=&quot;Very Happy&quot;&gt;😁&lt;/span&gt; :&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
you call it manufactured, i consider it matured and i've listened to janelle since all she had was an extended play; but like what you like&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/span&gt;&lt;table class=&quot;bbquote-container&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td class=&quot;text-left&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Fischman wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;bbquote&quot;&gt;You could always go with one of your witty and intelligent critiques like &quot;Car Seat Headrest sucks.&quot;!  I mean, with irrefutable brilliance like that, how could I not be convinced?&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
i've just honestly stopped caring about giving elaborate thoughts and argumentation of this website, sorry bud</description>
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                            <dc:creator>mickilennial</dc:creator>
                            <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2019 19:13:20 GMT</pubDate>
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                            <title>Re: Closed- 2018 BTT- Crazy Classic Life v Noid</title>
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                            <description>Author: &lt;a href='https://www.besteveralbums.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=40684'&gt;Tha1ChiefRocka&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                          Posted: 02/23/2019 22:23&lt;br /&gt;
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                          Whoops, looks like I just turned the tide with my vote.</description>
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                            <dc:creator>Tha1ChiefRocka</dc:creator>
                            <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2019 17:23:32 GMT</pubDate>
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                            <title>Re: Closed- 2018 BTT- Crazy Classic Life v Noid</title>
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                            <description>Author: &lt;a href='https://www.besteveralbums.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=35882'&gt;cestuneblague&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                          Posted: 02/23/2019 22:21&lt;br /&gt;
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                          Yeah not to be Mary Mary Qcontrary but I actually enjoy the message in Janelle Monae's song but am underwhelmed by the composition, which I have to say was one of my main complaints about Dirty Computer. Am a bit more admirable if not peronally moved by the Yves Tumor tune but will do some more listens as I sit on this fence.</description>
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                            <dc:creator>cestuneblague</dc:creator>
                            <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2019 17:21:51 GMT</pubDate>
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                            <title>Re: Closed- 2018 BTT- Crazy Classic Life v Noid</title>
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                            <description>Author: &lt;a href='https://www.besteveralbums.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=33940'&gt;travelful&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                          Posted: 02/23/2019 22:00&lt;br /&gt;
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                          I loved The Archandroid, but since that record I feel like Janelle Monae has progressively gotten worse and worse. I think I scored Dirty Computer a 45/100, which is sad for me because I think I gave The Archandroid like a 90/100 or something.&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm not interested in Crazy Classic Life, its just seems too manufactured and generic, which was my main complaint with the whole album. Here's my review of the album I have in my 2018 chart for any of you that wanna get outraged  &lt;span class=&quot;emoji&quot; title=&quot;Very Happy&quot;&gt;😁&lt;/span&gt; :&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/span&gt;&lt;table class=&quot;bbquote-container&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td class=&quot;text-left&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;bbquote&quot;&gt;I went into this with pretty high expectations, considering all the positive reviews. To say I was disappointed would be an understatement. This album comes across to me as another manufactured generic pop album. Sure it might be slightly better than some contemporaries (not that impressive), but no more creative than a typical Lady Gaga record. The lyrics although have okay subject matter occasionally, are delivered in a such unsatisfying and commercial way its painful. Honestly certain tracks like 'Take a Byte' and 'Screwed' just come across as corny as hell to me. Production wise, it has some highlights here and there but for the most part we're looking at the typical &quot;top 40&quot; uninteresting radio-esque production and her copying the sounds of Prince, neither of which appeal much to me. The opener has such promise too, I was strapped in for a beautiful art pop / R&amp;B record, but instead got a generic, half-assed, uninspired commercialized pop album that doesn't stand out much at all from her contemporaries. I know for a fact she can do MUCH better than this.  &lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah sorry, I'm truly happy other people were able to find enjoyment out of the album, but I was not one of those people. I'm just being honest, not here to argue. My vote goes to Yves Tumor.</description>
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                            <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2019 17:00:30 GMT</pubDate>
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                            <title>Re: Closed- 2018 BTT- Crazy Classic Life v Noid</title>
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                            <description>Author: &lt;a href='https://www.besteveralbums.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=30141'&gt;Repo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                          &lt;/span&gt;&lt;table class=&quot;bbquote-container&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td class=&quot;text-left&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Hayden wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;bbquote&quot;&gt;Noid's a banger amirightguys.&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Both songs are great. But going to go with CCL. Just an infectious perfect summer pop song with a great message. Already sent it to my girls &amp; they love it.  &lt;span class=&quot;emoji&quot; title=&quot;Very Happy&quot;&gt;😁&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Crazy Classic Life</description>
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                            <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2019 14:23:09 GMT</pubDate>
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                            <title>Re: Closed- 2018 BTT- Crazy Classic Life v Noid</title>
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                            <description>Author: &lt;a href='https://www.besteveralbums.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=18698'&gt;Hayden&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                          Noid's a banger amirightguys.</description>
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                            <dc:creator>Hayden</dc:creator>
                            <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2019 10:44:23 GMT</pubDate>
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                            <title>Re: Closed- 2018 BTT- Crazy Classic Life v Noid</title>
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                            <description>Author: &lt;a href='https://www.besteveralbums.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=39268'&gt;Fischman&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                            <dc:creator>Fischman</dc:creator>
                            <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2019 09:49:55 GMT</pubDate>
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                            <title>Re: Closed- 2018 BTT- Crazy Classic Life v Noid</title>
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                            <description>Author: &lt;a href='https://www.besteveralbums.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=29810'&gt;Skinny&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                          Posted: 02/23/2019 14:49&lt;br /&gt;
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                          &lt;/span&gt;&lt;table class=&quot;bbquote-container&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td class=&quot;text-left&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Fischman wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;bbquote&quot;&gt;As someone who has lived with Native Americans, I wouldn't argue otherwise.&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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 &lt;span class=&quot;emoji&quot; title=&quot;Cool&quot;&gt;😎&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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                            <dc:creator>Skinny</dc:creator>
                            <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2019 09:49:20 GMT</pubDate>
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                            <title>Re: Closed- 2018 BTT- Crazy Classic Life v Noid</title>
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                            <description>Author: &lt;a href='https://www.besteveralbums.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=39268'&gt;Fischman&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                          &lt;/span&gt;&lt;table class=&quot;bbquote-container&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td class=&quot;text-left&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Skinny wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;bbquote&quot;&gt;You're a blight on the landscape.&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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As someone who has lived with Native Americans, I wouldn't argue otherwise.</description>
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                            <dc:creator>Fischman</dc:creator>
                            <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2019 09:47:17 GMT</pubDate>
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                            <title>Re: Closed- 2018 BTT- Crazy Classic Life v Noid</title>
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                            <description>Author: &lt;a href='https://www.besteveralbums.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=39268'&gt;Fischman&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                          Posted: 02/23/2019 14:45&lt;br /&gt;
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                          &lt;/span&gt;&lt;table class=&quot;bbquote-container&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td class=&quot;text-left&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Skinny wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;bbquote&quot;&gt;You bloody white muricans with your opioids and your radio rock. We should never have sent you there to massacre the natives. You really piss me off with your Ayn Rands and your Dream Theaters. You had to ship people in to invent valid musical forms, and then you have the nerve to piss and moan about it. Jesus wept.&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I am infinitely and eternally grateful for jazz and blues.  Thank you from the bottom of my heart.  Truly.</description>
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                            <dc:creator>Fischman</dc:creator>
                            <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2019 09:45:33 GMT</pubDate>
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                            <title>Re: Closed- 2018 BTT- Crazy Classic Life v Noid</title>
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                            <description>Author: &lt;a href='https://www.besteveralbums.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=29810'&gt;Skinny&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                          Posted: 02/23/2019 12:12&lt;br /&gt;
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                          You're a blight on the landscape.</description>
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                            <dc:creator>Skinny</dc:creator>
                            <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2019 07:12:52 GMT</pubDate>
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                            <description>Author: &lt;a href='https://www.besteveralbums.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=29810'&gt;Skinny&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                          You bloody white muricans with your opioids and your radio rock. We should never have sent you there to massacre the natives. You really piss me off with your Ayn Rands and your Dream Theaters. You had to ship people in to invent valid musical forms, and then you have the nerve to piss and moan about it. Jesus wept.</description>
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                            <dc:creator>Skinny</dc:creator>
                            <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2019 07:11:02 GMT</pubDate>
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                            <description>Author: &lt;a href='https://www.besteveralbums.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=32855'&gt;Purplepash&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                          I vote for Baystate... Oh hang on... it's the music we are discussing.&lt;br /&gt;
Noid is the more interesting song and I have added the album to my to do list.</description>
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                            <dc:creator>Purplepash</dc:creator>
                            <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2019 03:40:50 GMT</pubDate>
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                            <description>Author: &lt;a href='https://www.besteveralbums.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=35422'&gt;baystateoftheart&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                          Posted: 02/23/2019 07:51&lt;br /&gt;
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                          &lt;/span&gt;&lt;table class=&quot;bbquote-container&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td class=&quot;text-left&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Fischman wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;bbquote&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;table class=&quot;bbquote-container&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td class=&quot;text-left&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;baystateoftheart wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;bbquote&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;table class=&quot;bbquote-container&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td class=&quot;text-left&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Fischman wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;bbquote&quot;&gt;Sorry, I missed your post.&lt;br /&gt;
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I get your point and I accept it to a degree.  My final settling was based on two things; first that it's the vapid part that ends up being the bottom line; I'd be more impressed if these so called words of empowerment were leading to a nobler desire.  Second, and this is admittedly a personal thing and not necessarily the fault of the song, but i generally respond more to the music than the lyrics.  I found the music to be rather pointless so I projected the lack of meaning on to the song as a whole.  I was in error to do that.&lt;br /&gt;
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But I will disagree that one race has less freedom to express themselves.  Just look at this music.  Hip hop supplanted rock as the dominant popular music decades ago and that doesn't shown any signs of changing.  We all also know that theres all sorts of speech that if a black person says it, it's cool, but if a white person says it, all hell breaks loose.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for rates of incarceration, that's more attributable to a different, but equally problematic underlying cause, which is that money buys a better defense, and while progress is being made, on average, whites have more money.  But there's no shortage of examples of justice turning a blind eye to black criminals when they have the wealth or power or influence to achieve a favorable outcome.&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The noble desire is equal treatment, for those who are goody-two-shoes and those who aren't. Being equally free isn't just about equality in what you're able to do, but also about equality in what consequences you face when you bend or break society's rules.&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah, money is a big issue, but it goes deeper than that. Poor white criminals get more lenient treatment than poor black criminals, and likewise with rich white criminals and rich black criminals. There's also a huge disparity in enforcement patterns that determine who actually gets into the courtroom in the first place.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, the marijuana thing was my example, but I would note that Janelle Monáe is not just talking about race. She's making a broader point about race, gender, and sexuality.&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Something I'd be able to but into if it was 1969, not 2019.  The pendulum has swung.  Everyone bought Smollett's hoax hook line and sinker until the evidence became so overwhelming there was no possible way of denying it. Right before that, everybody wanted to destroy Catholic school kid until the full video was released showing the drummer to be the instigator of the confrontation.  Before that, it was Kavanaugh, or UVA or Duke Lacrosse.  It was everyone buying into the &quot;hands up, don't shoot lie until forensic science proved that couldn't be the case. It was the complete ignorance of the rampant use of excessive, often deadly force in the Albuquerque PD... where most of the officers involved were Hispanic and the victims were often white.  Recent history is full of these things.  Right now, the first inclination for most of society is to assume the worst about whites/males, and give others the benefit of the doubt.&lt;br /&gt;
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Even incarceration rates are changing dramatically.  US prison population peaked in 2009 and has been dropping steadily overall since then.  During that time, the black prison population has declined 22%. Yet even though there is a trend in prison depopulation, white prison population has actually &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic&quot;&gt;increased&lt;/span&gt; by 4% during the same time frame. &lt;br /&gt;
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And as for who's mistreating whom based on race, gender, or sexuality, FBI statistics (mostly collected under a Black President/Attorney General) show blacks committing hate crimes at three times the rate of whites.&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I can tell this is not going to be a productive line of conversation going forward. While I have a fact-based rebuttal to every one of your points, it would be a waste of my time to engage in what would spiral into a lengthy argument about who's actually oppressed in America (one that I know from past experience would be conducted in bad faith). White victimhood ideology is a hell of a drug.</description>
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                            <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2019 02:51:54 GMT</pubDate>
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                            <title>Re: Closed- 2018 BTT- Crazy Classic Life v Noid</title>
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                            <description>Author: &lt;a href='https://www.besteveralbums.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=-1'&gt;Anonymous&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                          Posted: 02/23/2019 07:34&lt;br /&gt;
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                          Hmmmm I think Noid has a more original hook but ultimately I think CCL is the better constructured song and more subtly interesting in its textures and variety. I voted for Janelle Mionae.</description>
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                            <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2019 02:34:19 GMT</pubDate>
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                            <title>Re: Closed- 2018 BTT- Crazy Classic Life v Noid</title>
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                            <description>Author: &lt;a href='https://www.besteveralbums.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=39268'&gt;Fischman&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                          Posted: 02/23/2019 07:19&lt;br /&gt;
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                          &lt;/span&gt;&lt;table class=&quot;bbquote-container&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td class=&quot;text-left&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;baystateoftheart wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;bbquote&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;table class=&quot;bbquote-container&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td class=&quot;text-left&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Fischman wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;bbquote&quot;&gt;Sorry, I missed your post.&lt;br /&gt;
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I get your point and I accept it to a degree.  My final settling was based on two things; first that it's the vapid part that ends up being the bottom line; I'd be more impressed if these so called words of empowerment were leading to a nobler desire.  Second, and this is admittedly a personal thing and not necessarily the fault of the song, but i generally respond more to the music than the lyrics.  I found the music to be rather pointless so I projected the lack of meaning on to the song as a whole.  I was in error to do that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But I will disagree that one race has less freedom to express themselves.  Just look at this music.  Hip hop supplanted rock as the dominant popular music decades ago and that doesn't shown any signs of changing.  We all also know that theres all sorts of speech that if a black person says it, it's cool, but if a white person says it, all hell breaks loose.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As for rates of incarceration, that's more attributable to a different, but equally problematic underlying cause, which is that money buys a better defense, and while progress is being made, on average, whites have more money.  But there's no shortage of examples of justice turning a blind eye to black criminals when they have the wealth or power or influence to achieve a favorable outcome.&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The noble desire is equal treatment, for those who are goody-two-shoes and those who aren't. Being equally free isn't just about equality in what you're able to do, but also about equality in what consequences you face when you bend or break society's rules.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Yeah, money is a big issue, but it goes deeper than that. Poor white criminals get more lenient treatment than poor black criminals, and likewise with rich white criminals and rich black criminals. There's also a huge disparity in enforcement patterns that determine who actually gets into the courtroom in the first place.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Also, the marijuana thing was my example, but I would note that Janelle Monáe is not just talking about race. She's making a broader point about race, gender, and sexuality.&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Something I'd be able to but into if it was 1969, not 2019.  The pendulum has swung.  Everyone bought Smollett's hoax hook line and sinker until the evidence became so overwhelming there was no possible way of denying it. Right before that, everybody wanted to destroy Catholic school kid until the full video was released showing the drummer to be the instigator of the confrontation.  Before that, it was Kavanaugh, or UVA or Duke Lacrosse.  It was everyone buying into the &quot;hands up, don't shoot lie until forensic science proved that couldn't be the case. It was the complete ignorance of the rampant use of excessive, often deadly force in the Albuquerque PD... where most of the officers involved were Hispanic and the victims were often white.  Recent history is full of these things.  Right now, the first inclination for most of society is to assume the worst about whites/males, and give others the benefit of the doubt.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even incarceration rates are changing dramatically.  US prison population peaked in 2009 and has been dropping steadily overall since then.  During that time, the black prison population has declined 22%. Yet even though there is a trend in prison depopulation, white prison population has actually &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic&quot;&gt;increased&lt;/span&gt; by 4% during the same time frame. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
And as for who's mistreating whom based on race, gender, or sexuality, FBI statistics (mostly collected under a Black President/Attorney General) show blacks committing hate crimes at three times the rate of whites.</description>
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                            <dc:creator>Fischman</dc:creator>
                            <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2019 02:19:15 GMT</pubDate>
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                            <title>Re: Closed- 2018 BTT- Crazy Classic Life v Noid</title>
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                            <description>Author: &lt;a href='https://www.besteveralbums.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=35422'&gt;baystateoftheart&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                          Posted: 02/23/2019 06:48&lt;br /&gt;
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                          &lt;/span&gt;&lt;table class=&quot;bbquote-container&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td class=&quot;text-left&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Fischman wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;bbquote&quot;&gt;Sorry, I missed your post.&lt;br /&gt;
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I get your point and I accept it to a degree.  My final settling was based on two things; first that it's the vapid part that ends up being the bottom line; I'd be more impressed if these so called words of empowerment were leading to a nobler desire.  Second, and this is admittedly a personal thing and not necessarily the fault of the song, but i generally respond more to the music than the lyrics.  I found the music to be rather pointless so I projected the lack of meaning on to the song as a whole.  I was in error to do that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But I will disagree that one race has less freedom to express themselves.  Just look at this music.  Hip hop supplanted rock as the dominant popular music decades ago and that doesn't shown any signs of changing.  We all also know that theres all sorts of speech that if a black person says it, it's cool, but if a white person says it, all hell breaks loose.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As for rates of incarceration, that's more attributable to a different, but equally problematic underlying cause, which is that money buys a better defense, and while progress is being made, on average, whites have more money.  But there's no shortage of examples of justice turning a blind eye to black criminals when they have the wealth or power or influence to achieve a favorable outcome.&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The noble desire is equal treatment, for those who are goody-two-shoes and those who aren't. Being equally free isn't just about equality in what you're able to do, but also about equality in what consequences you face when you bend or break society's rules.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Yeah, money is a big issue, but it goes deeper than that. Poor white criminals get more lenient treatment than poor black criminals, and likewise with rich white criminals and rich black criminals. There's also a huge disparity in enforcement patterns that determine who actually gets into the courtroom in the first place.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Also, the marijuana thing was my example, but I would note that Janelle Monáe is not just talking about race. She's making a broader point about race, gender, and sexuality.</description>
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                            <dc:creator>baystateoftheart</dc:creator>
                            <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2019 01:48:25 GMT</pubDate>
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                            <title>Re: Closed- 2018 BTT- Crazy Classic Life v Noid</title>
                            <link>https://www.besteveralbums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=543182#543182</link>
                            <description>Author: &lt;a href='https://www.besteveralbums.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=39268'&gt;Fischman&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                          Posted: 02/23/2019 06:29&lt;br /&gt;
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                          &lt;/span&gt;&lt;table class=&quot;bbquote-container&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td class=&quot;text-left&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;baystateoftheart wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;bbquote&quot;&gt;Are you going to respond to my explanation, or just the bait?  :P&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry, I missed your post.&lt;br /&gt;
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I get your point and I accept it to a degree.  My final settling was based on two things; first that it's the vapid part that ends up being the bottom line; I'd be more impressed if these so called words of empowerment were leading to a nobler desire.  Second, and this is admittedly a personal thing and not necessarily the fault of the song, but i generally respond more to the music than the lyrics.  I found the music to be rather pointless so I projected the lack of meaning on to the song as a whole.  I was in error to do that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But I will disagree that one race has less freedom to express themselves.  Just look at this music.  Hip hop supplanted rock as the dominant popular music decades ago and that doesn't shown any signs of changing.  We all also know that theres all sorts of speech that if a black person says it, it's cool, but if a white person says it, all hell breaks loose.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As for rates of incarceration, that's more attributable to a different, but equally problematic underlying cause, which is that money buys a better defense, and while progress is being made, on average, whites have more money.  But there's no shortage of examples of justice turning a blind eye to black criminals when they have the wealth or power or influence to achieve a favorable outcome.</description>
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                            <dc:creator>Fischman</dc:creator>
                            <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2019 01:29:58 GMT</pubDate>
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                            <title>Re: Closed- 2018 BTT- Crazy Classic Life v Noid</title>
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                            <description>Author: &lt;a href='https://www.besteveralbums.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=35422'&gt;baystateoftheart&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                          Posted: 02/23/2019 06:22&lt;br /&gt;
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                          Finally had to go with Noid, but I'll be happy with either winning.</description>
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                            <dc:creator>baystateoftheart</dc:creator>
                            <pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2019 01:22:05 GMT</pubDate>
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