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Re: U.K. bands versus U.S.A. bands. Who's best?

ColumnatedRuins — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 11:34:40 GMT

Author: ColumnatedRuins

Posted: 01/25/2013 16:34

JMan wrote:

Yet, two of those artists, I've never heard songs from.

go ahead and fix that. Beefheart and the Stooges (assuming these are the ones you haven't heard) are really great. probably not your style of music, but it's good to expand your horizons and what not.

Re: U.K. bands versus U.S.A. bands. Who's best?

Anonymous — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 11:23:59 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 01/25/2013 16:23

Jasonconfused wrote:

Sure, why not? Zeppelin is my favorite band of all time, but think about some of the influence of artists like The Velvet Underground, Captain Beefheart, and The Stooges.

Yet, two of those artists, I've never heard songs from.

Re: U.K. bands versus U.S.A. bands. Who's best?

Jasonconfused — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 16:40:51 GMT

Author: Jasonconfused

Posted: 01/24/2013 21:40

JMan wrote:

Yes, but are they compatible to all the British icons like Zeppelin, Floyd and Beatles? Yes, I like some of the bands you just spoke of, but they can't compete.

Comparable*

Sure, why not? Zeppelin is my favorite band of all time, but think about some of the influence of artists like The Velvet Underground, Captain Beefheart, and The Stooges.

Re: U.K. bands versus U.S.A. bands. Who's best?

Anonymous — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 16:38:34 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 01/24/2013 21:38

Jasonconfused wrote:

The US had those that you mentioned, along with Jimi Hendrix, Grateful Dead, Allman Brothers Band, James Brown, Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, R.E.M., Tom Petty, The Beach Boys, Van Halen, Metallica, The Ramones, KISS, The Velvet Underground.. and that's just from the limited amount of stuff that I listen to.

Yes, but are they compatible to all the British icons like Zeppelin, Floyd and Beatles? Yes, I like some of the bands you just spoke of, but they can't compete.

Re: U.K. bands versus U.S.A. bands. Who's best?

Jasonconfused — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 14:20:42 GMT

Author: Jasonconfused

Posted: 01/24/2013 19:20

ButterThumbz wrote:

I often see Jimi Hendrix's name brought up in these discussions but, arguably, it was coming to the UK and forming The Jimi Hendrix Experience that made him a success. The Experience were much more than just Jimi's backing band. The trio were truly an anglo-american outfit and I think that should be acknowledged whenever Jimi is brought into discussions like this.

I see where you're coming from and I've thought about this too so I was careful to just say Jimi Hendrix, rather than the Experience. However, I've heard that Jimi was often frustrated with his backing band and that they couldn't really keep up with his expectations so I'm not sure they should be getting so much credit.. who knows. Might have just been Jimi's superego was the problem.

Re: U.K. bands versus U.S.A. bands. Who's best?

paddy26 — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 12:17:53 GMT

Author: paddy26

Posted: 01/24/2013 17:17

A weird nuance of this debate that I have noticed in my personal musical taste is that British bands are much more consistent throughout albums. Most of my favorite bands are American, but a lot of these American bands will have a few great songs per album as well as a good deal of filler. When it comes to my favorite British bands, all of their albums are chock full of outstanding songs, and I end up skipping very few tracks.

Re: U.K. bands versus U.S.A. bands. Who's best?

ButterThumbz — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 04:51:43 GMT

Author: ButterThumbz

Posted: 01/24/2013 09:51

I often see Jimi Hendrix's name brought up in these discussions but, arguably, it was coming to the UK and forming The Jimi Hendrix Experience that made him a success. The Experience were much more than just Jimi's backing band. The trio were truly an anglo-american outfit and I think that should be acknowledged whenever Jimi is brought into discussions like this.

Re: U.K. bands versus U.S.A. bands. Who's best?

hairymarx1 — Wed, 23 Jan 2013 23:42:16 GMT

Author: hairymarx1

Posted: 01/24/2013 04:42

I'm looking at this topic from a slightly different perspective in regards to who, historically speaking, has been the most notable in terms of influential movements and ideas. It's a close call.

Probably the UK's most influential and creative 'scene' was that which emerged in Canterbury during the late 60s out of which spawned artists like Kevin Ayers, David Bedford, Lol Coxhill, Robert Frip Robert Wyatt etc.

Bands like Caravan, Gentle Giant and, most significantly, Soft Machine, were the genesis of the prog-rock movement which spawned King Crimson who probably produced the first ever prog-rock album with their 'In The Court Of The Crimson King'.

This highly original band ran alongside another highly influential and pioneering band of the period, London's Pink Floyd. Canterbury and London was where it was at during the late 60s and early 70s.

But running parallel to that was the 'acid' and hippie scene in California of which bands like The Grateful Dead and Jefferson Airplane were its personification.

Allied to that was the counter to the counter culture in the form of Red Crayola, The Velvet Underground, Frank Zappa and above all, the genius Captain Beefheart, arguably the most innovative and influential musician of all time.

The next major shift happened following the emergence of the 'existential' angst that underpinned the punk movement that came out of New York a decade later. This movement took as its trigger the acid trip of the West coast mixed with the kind of pyrotechnical poetic brilliance of Jim Morrison.

But often overlooked are the Stooges whose highly influencial proto-punk combined the old school garage sound of the mid 60s with the wild decadence of the Stones.

Patti Smith and Television were the key figures that successfully merged the strands of the former. British punk by comparison, was a far less rounded movement lacking the intellectual vigour of the former. The Clash, however, were its saviours.

The New Wave, Post rock and post punk scenes produced some equally interesting bands on both sides of the Atlantic but again, the US shades it by virtue of the vibrant hardcore and 'sub-pop' scene as well as the brilliance of bands like Talking Heads and Pere Ubu.

Arguably, the sophisticated 'pub rock' of The Soft Boys in London singularly set in motion the pyschedelic and Paisley revival in 1980 that itself spawned many like-minded bands on both sides of the pond during the subsequent decade. This movement was to produce two of the finest psychedelic bands of not only their period, but of any period - the US groups Mercury Rev and Flaming Lips.

For me, the US shades it.

Re: U.K. bands versus U.S.A. bands. Who's best?

Jasonconfused — Wed, 23 Jan 2013 23:07:51 GMT

Author: Jasonconfused

Posted: 01/24/2013 04:07

JMan wrote:

U.K. bands, definitely. I know I'm all-American, but I have to be honest. U'K, in most cases, rock louder than we do. Zeppelin, Beatles, Pink Floyd, and Radiohead (the four biggest bands on this site) are all U.K. I know we had Elvis, Aerosmith, and Nirvana, but they also have:
The Who
Cream
Fleetwood Mac (except Stevie and Lindsay)
Def Leppard
Black Sabbath

Re: U.K. bands versus U.S.A. bands. Who's best?

Anonymous — Wed, 23 Jan 2013 22:59:27 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 01/24/2013 03:59

JMan wrote:

United states did have what are "considered" to be some of the best indie bands.

Re: U.K. bands versus U.S.A. bands. Who's best?

Anonymous — Wed, 23 Jan 2013 19:16:37 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 01/24/2013 00:16

U.K. bands, definitely. I know I'm all-American, but I have to be honest. U'K, in most cases, rock louder than we do. Zeppelin, Beatles, Pink Floyd, and Radiohead (the four biggest bands on this site) are all U.K. I know we had Elvis, Aerosmith, and Nirvana, but they also have:
The Who
Cream
Fleetwood Mac (except Stevie and Lindsay)
Def Leppard
Black Sabbath

Re: U.K. bands versus U.S.A. bands. Who's best?

Anonymous — Sun, 2 Dec 2012 10:43:06 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 12/02/2012 15:43

Defago wrote:

Germany

Re: U.K. bands versus U.S.A. bands. Who's best?

Facetious — Sun, 2 Dec 2012 06:56:53 GMT

Author: Facetious

Posted: 12/02/2012 11:56

Defago wrote:

Germany

Re: U.K. bands versus U.S.A. bands. Who's best?

Defago — Sun, 2 Dec 2012 05:28:06 GMT

Author: Defago

Posted: 12/02/2012 10:28

Germany

Re: U.K. bands versus U.S.A. bands. Who's best?

sheep21 — Sun, 2 Dec 2012 01:24:22 GMT

Author: sheep21

Posted: 12/02/2012 06:24

cartoken wrote:

you mean the opposite :|

So true

Re: U.K. bands versus U.S.A. bands. Who's best?

pearljammer13 — Sat, 1 Dec 2012 10:07:45 GMT

Author: pearljammer13

Posted: 12/01/2012 15:07

encyclopediag wrote:

the brits take it in my opinion, even if they haven't always been the best, they have always been the biggest - beatles, stones, kinks, zeppelin, floyd, the who, the clash, oasis, radiohead - and even canada - rush, the guess who, neil young, the tragically hip, arcade fire - has a comparable line-up to the US - the doors, aerosmith, hendrix, pixies, nirvana, pearl jam, white stripes

I used to think UK, as I suppose they have more of the "bigger" bands overall. But the more music I listen to, the more I'm seeing the unending breadth of great music coming out of the U.S. I'm not saying it doesn't exist in other places, but just in personal opinion I'd go U.S. now.

Re: U.K. bands versus U.S.A. bands. Who's best?

encyclopediag — Sat, 1 Dec 2012 10:04:19 GMT

Author: encyclopediag

Posted: 12/01/2012 15:04

the brits take it in my opinion, even if they haven't always been the best, they have always been the biggest - beatles, stones, kinks, zeppelin, floyd, the who, the clash, oasis, radiohead - and even canada - rush, the guess who, neil young, the tragically hip, arcade fire - has a comparable line-up to the US - the doors, aerosmith, hendrix, pixies, nirvana, pearl jam, white stripes

Re: U.K. bands versus U.S.A. bands. Who's best?

Anonymous — Sat, 1 Dec 2012 09:29:53 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 12/01/2012 14:29

The Poe wrote:

I don't believe you.

... you're a liar 😮

[Turns around]

... play it f***ing louder! 😮 😮

Re: U.K. bands versus U.S.A. bands. Who's best?

Anonymous — Sat, 1 Dec 2012 09:24:17 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 12/01/2012 14:24

I don't believe you.

Re: U.K. bands versus U.S.A. bands. Who's best?

rock socket — Sat, 1 Dec 2012 08:03:47 GMT

Author: rock socket

Posted: 12/01/2012 13:03

The Poe wrote:

As of today... my best guess is

1: Japan, USA

2: France, Germany, UK

3: Australia, Canada, Italy

4: Austria, Belgium, Brazil, Denmark, Mexico, Netherlands, Norway, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland

5: Argentina, China, Finland, Greece, Hong Kong, India, Ireland, New Zealand, Poland, Portugal, South Korea, Taiwan, Thailand, Turkey

6: Central America, Chile, Colombia, Croatia, Cuba, Czech Republic, Egypt, Hungary, Iceland, Indonesia, Iran, Israel, Jamaica, Malaysia, Mali, Nigeria, Pakistan, Peru, Philippines, Singapore, Venezuela

Apart from "DE STAAT" there are no good bands in the Netherlands