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Re: Best Ever Television?

Patman360 — Wed, 8 Jun 2022 19:20:46 GMT

Author: Patman360

Posted: 06/08/2022 23:20

A lot of overlap on my (yet to be developed or even fully thought of) list.

Peep Show is too low for my liking though!

Re: Best Ever Television?

BozoTyrannus — Tue, 7 Jun 2022 16:32:58 GMT

Author: BozoTyrannus

Posted: 06/07/2022 20:32

theblueboy wrote:

45. The League of Gentlemen (UK)

Oh goodness, thank you so much for posting this, I totally forgot League of Gentlemen. I absolutely have to find a place for it in my list whenever the official submission is sent in.

Re: Best Ever Television?

Anonymous — Tue, 7 Jun 2022 08:34:35 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 06/07/2022 12:34

I'll follow Bozo's lead and post a draft here as well:
(I got carried away with indicating the countries of origin-this isn't necessary, but I liked how it looks)

1. The Wire (US)
2. Curb Your Enthusiasm (US)
3. Mad Men (US)
4. Fargo (US)
5. Game of Thrones (US)
6. Arrested Development (US)
7. Band of Brothers (US)
8. The Office (UK)
9. The West Wing (US)
10. The Simpsons (US)
11. Better Call Saul (US)
12. Community (US)
13. Schitt’s Creek (CAN)
14. Dekalog (POL)
15. Master of None (US)
16. Veep (US)
17. Line of Duty (UK)
18. Borgan (DAN)
19. The Killing (DAN)
20. Scrubs (US)
21. Orange is the New Black (US)
22. Killing Eve (UK)
23. Twin Peaks (US)
24. The Sopranos (US)
25. The Office (US)
26. Wild, Wild Country (US)
27. Seinfeld (US)
28. Joe Pera Talks With You (US)
29. Phoenix Nights (UK)
30. Always Sunny in Philadelphia (US)
31. I’m Alan Partridge (UK)
32. Flight of the Conchords (US/NZ)
33. Father Ted (IRE)
34. Atlanta (US)
35. Stranger Things (US)
36. Parks and Recreation (US)
37. The X Files (US)
38. Breaking Bad (US)
39. The Detectorists (UK)
40. Homeland (US)
41. Derry Girls (IRE)
42. Wallander (SWE)
43. The Beatles: Get Back (UK/US)
45. The League of Gentlemen (UK)
46. American Crime Story: The People vs OJ Simpson (US)
47. The Last Dance (US)
48. Blackadder Goes Forth (UK)
49. The Watchmen (US)
50. Fleabag (UK)
51. Only Fools and Horses (UK)
52. Frasier (US)
53. Bojack Horseman (US)
54. Futerama (US)
55. Sex Education (UK)
56. Peep Show (UK)
57. Red Dwarf (UK)
58. Big Little Lies (US)
59. The Mighty Boosh (UK)
60. Little America (US)
61. The Fast Show (UK)
62. Firefly (UK)
63. Barry (US)
64. The IT Crowd (UK)
65. The Watchmen (US)
66. Mythic Quest (US)
67. The Muppet Show (US)
68. Spiral (FRA)
69. Ted Lasso (US)
70. Shameless (UK)
71. 30 Rock (US)
72. The Inbetweeners (UK)
73. Rick and Morty (US)
74. Weeds (US)
75. Fawlty Towers (UK)
76. The Thick of It (UK)
77. Friends (US)
78. Brooklyn Nine Nine (US)
79. Modern Family (US)
80. The Last Man on Earth (US)
81. The Staircase (US)
82. Chernobyl (US/UK)
83. Broad City (US)
84. Sharp Objects (US)
85. True Blood (US)
86. Great News (US)
87. The Mindy Project (US)
88. Green Wing (UK)
89. Star Trek: The Next Generation (US)
90. Brass Eye (UK)
91. The Good Place (US)
92. I May Destroy You (UK)
93. ER (US)
94. W1A (UK)
95. Catastrophe (UK)
96. The Handmaid’s Tale (US)
97. Conversations with Friends (IRE)
98. Spooks (UK)
99. Police Squad! (US)
100. Gavin and Stacey (UK)

Re: Best Ever Television?

Anonymous — Sun, 5 Jun 2022 12:14:02 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 06/05/2022 16:14

Yeah, a lot of shows dip in their later seasons. I’m not taking an average- just got to go with how I feel about the show at this moment. E.g. Later seasons of Scrubs were unwatchable, but it was really good for a loooong time before then, so it will still be high up for me.

I’m definitely including shows where I haven’t seen every episode. As long as I have seen enough to appreciate it.

I might cut my final list to 50. I’ll have to see where the list tails off and I start including things for the sake of it.

Re: Best Ever Television?

Hayden — Sun, 5 Jun 2022 11:38:59 GMT

Author: Hayden

Posted: 06/05/2022 15:38

Quote:

13. Berlin Alexanderplatz

Good call. Wasn't considering that one.

LedZep wrote:

I'm struggling to get to 50 using the same method - including only things I liked for the majority of seasons/episodes. Now I don't watch many shows and I finish even less, so that might be a problem. Is it required to watch the whole show to put it on your list? If no, how do you rank that show? True Detective's first season is some of my favourite television ever, (didn't watch S2) and the third one is pretty good but not even close to the first one. Where do I put that on my list? Based on the first season alone, it could be at the top... 🤔

Also, there's so much YT stuff on IMDB, but it's... weird. There's Crash Course: US History and Crash Course: Science and a bunch of others, but Crash Course: European History (the only one I've watched in its entirety) isn't on IMDB. Would be weird not to put that on my list, but according to the rules, it wouldn't be allowed.

It'll def be a little weird for series that are currently running, etc. I mean... GoT would have been way higher on my list had S8 not been released yet. Same with the season finale of Killing Eve. Totally understand the True Detective thing.

Barry, Atlanta and Better Call Saul are all definitely going to be on my list despite them not being finished (well, Better Call Saul would be wrapped at the time the poll closes I suppose).

I think we just do our best 😨 Don't overthink it, etc.

Re: Best Ever Television?

LedZep — Sun, 5 Jun 2022 11:09:30 GMT

Author: LedZep

Posted: 06/05/2022 15:09

Hayden wrote:

I just tried to do what Chief did and log every show I've watched, and I don't think I've watched more than ~70-75 shows that I like (of which, I cannot figure an order :lol:)— but even if people can't whip up 100 entries, I think it would be a good number for the overall list.

Re: Best Ever Television?

BozoTyrannus — Sun, 5 Jun 2022 09:48:47 GMT

Author: BozoTyrannus

Posted: 06/05/2022 13:48

theblueboy wrote:

I consider the different Blackadders as different seasons of the same show but I can see why you have them separately 🤡

IMdb ranks them separate series, so I carried on in that manner

#sixseasonsandamovie!

Re: Best Ever Television?

Anonymous — Sun, 5 Jun 2022 07:08:38 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 06/05/2022 11:08

That is a great list.

I somehow forgot Blackadder and Police Squad in my thinking. Good inclusions

Also Dekalog. Ofcourse should be in, yet I totally didn’t consider this!!

I consider the different Blackadders as different seasons of the same show but I can see why you have them separately 🤡

Also, cool to see another Community Stan on here.

Re: Best Ever Television?

BozoTyrannus — Sun, 5 Jun 2022 06:53:19 GMT

Author: BozoTyrannus

Posted: 06/05/2022 10:53

I know there'll be a proper thread for it soon, but if anyone's trying to jog their memory on shows to include, here's the first draft of my list:

1. Mystery Science Theater 3000 (1988-1999)
2. Community
3. The Twilight Zone
4. Firefly
5. Futurama
6. M*A*S*H
7. Dekalog
8. Doctor Who (1962-1989)
9. Fawlty Towers
10. Star Trek: Original Series
11. Whose Line Is It Anyway? (American, 1998-2007)
12. Monty Python's Flying Circus
13. Berlin Alexanderplatz
14. Police Squad!
15. QI
16. Key & Peele
17. Planet Earth
18. Breaking Bad
19. Jeeves and Wooster
20. Bob's Burgers
21. Steins;Gate
22. Planet Earth II
23. A Bit of Fry and Laurie
24. Atlanta
25. Invader Zim
26. Death Parade
27. The Andy Griffith Show
28. Pride and Prejudice
29. Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
30. Assassination Classroom
31. Flight of the Conchords
32. Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law
33. The Carol Burnett Show
34. Cowboy Bebop
35. The Unanswered Question: Six Talks at Harvard
36. Blackadder Goes Forth
37. Phineas and Ferb
38. Doctor Who (2005 - )
39. Ergo Proxy
40. Rutland Weekend Television
41. Whose Line is it Anyway? (British)
42. Blackadder the Third
43. Regular Show
44. Last Week Tonight with John Oliver
45. Better Call Saul
46. Over the Garden Wall
47. Animaniacs (1993-1998)
48. Star Trek: The Next Generation
49. The IT Crowd
50. North & South
51. Fringe
52. The Adventures of Brisco County Jr
53. Hyouka
54. That Mitchell and Webb Look
55. Blackdder II
56. The Mighty Boosh
57. Poirot
58. The Tick (1994-1997)
59. One Punch Man
60. Garth Marenghi's Darkplace
61. Mr Bean
62. Parks and Recreation
63. Arrested Development
64. Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (1981)
65. Johann Sebastian Bach
66. The Critic
67. Babylon 5
68. Documentary Now!
69. Bron/Broen
70. Brooklyn Nine Nine
71. OverSimplified
72. Columbo
73. Mystery Science Theater 3000 (2016 - )
74. Big Little Lies
75. March Comes in Like a Lion
76. Dune (miniseries)
77. The Fugitive
78. Upstart Crow
79. Good Eats
80. Oblongs
81. The Tick (2016-2019)
82. I, Claudius
83. Stargate SG-1
84. Monk
85. Honey and Clover
86. Ed, Edd n Eddy
87. Castle
88. Get Smart
89. Whose Line Is It Anyway? (American, 2013 - )
90. House
91. The Saint
92. Made in Abyss
93. Broad City
94. Pinky and the Brain
95. Dick van Dyke Show
96. Erased
97. Taxi
98. The Honeymooners
99. Dilbert
100. Beverly Hillbillies

Where I'm aware of a difference between versions (British vs. American, classic vs. remake, etc) I've clarified the difference. There may be more that I'm simply unaware of.

Re: Best Ever Television?

BozoTyrannus — Sun, 5 Jun 2022 06:50:23 GMT

Author: BozoTyrannus

Posted: 06/05/2022 10:50

theblueboy wrote:

A huge portion of my list is pre-21st century, with a good dose pre-90s as well. Even if they don't score inclusion, hopefully the submissions will help some people get introduced to older shows.

Hayden wrote:

If Bozo is cool with me hijacking the concept and whipping up the poll, maybe we could start mid-June? I'd definitely look forward to the recommendations.

Enjoy. I was only planning on running it if people were interested in participating but no one wanted to run it.

Re: Best Ever Television?

Anonymous — Sun, 5 Jun 2022 06:38:18 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 06/05/2022 10:38

Hayden wrote:

I also realized I've never watched a TV show pre-Twin Peaks. My list would be wildly lopsided to the 21st century.

Yeah, I can’t think of many old shows that are genuinely in the running 🤡 Fawlty Towers; Monty Python’s flying circus (which has dated badly); Only Fools and Horses; M*A*S*H; Cheers; Taxi (which I have either never seen or just can’t remember);The Rise and Fall of Reginald Perring.

There are not many I would even consider before the mid 90s, yet Twin Peaks is still maybe joint favourite for the win (with The Wire).

If Breaking Bad, 24 or Lost goes better than the Wire I’m quitting BEA 😉

Re: Best Ever Television?

Hayden — Sat, 4 Jun 2022 19:21:18 GMT

Author: Hayden

Posted: 06/04/2022 23:21

BozoTyrannus wrote:

Hayden wrote:

I could open the gate on this as soon as next week if people want to do it.

I mean, we'll have hiccups, but I'm sure it'll still be fantastic.

Maybe the poll would run June through October? Top 100? Maybe a fun side-category, like best score.

I've got a top 75 worked out for sure, I should have it expanded to 100 by next week.

I... think (??) 100 would be a good number— I just tried to do what Chief did and log every show I've watched, and I don't think I've watched more than ~70-75 shows that I like (of which, I cannot figure an order :lol:)— but even if people can't whip up 100 entries, I think it would be a good number for the overall list.

I also realized I've never watched a TV show pre-Twin Peaks. My list would be wildly lopsided to the 21st century.

If Bozo is cool with me hijacking the concept and whipping up the poll, maybe we could start mid-June? I'd definitely look forward to the recommendations.

Re: Best Ever Television?

Tha1ChiefRocka — Fri, 3 Jun 2022 23:39:11 GMT

Author: Tha1ChiefRocka

Posted: 06/04/2022 03:39

When I don't have to work for a week, this is the kind of stuff that happens.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/...sp=sharing

Re: Best Ever Television?

BozoTyrannus — Fri, 3 Jun 2022 18:38:52 GMT

Author: BozoTyrannus

Posted: 06/03/2022 22:38

Hayden wrote:

I've got a top 75 worked out for sure, I should have it expanded to 100 by next week.

Re: Best Ever Television?

Hayden — Fri, 3 Jun 2022 18:04:52 GMT

Author: Hayden

Posted: 06/03/2022 22:04

I could open the gate on this as soon as next week if people want to do it.

I mean, we'll have hiccups, but I'm sure it'll still be fantastic.

Maybe the poll would run June through October? Top 100? Maybe a fun side-category, like best score.

Re: Best Ever Television?

PurpleHazel — Fri, 3 Jun 2022 03:54:07 GMT

Author: PurpleHazel

Posted: 06/03/2022 07:54

BozoTyrannus wrote:

Seeing as there's countless standards of determining what is and is not a tv series, I propose the simplest and most absolutely straightforward method possible:

If IMDb calls it a "TV series" or a "TV Mini Series" then it's eligible.

CriterionForum uses IMDb to determine what films are eligible for decade polls. They acknowledge that IMDb's release dates are occasionally wrong, but it's so simple. Makes everyone's lives easier.

Variety shows aren't going to get many votes, so they're unlikely to make a final list. But if someone wants to vote for one, go for it.

Re: Best Ever Television?

an-outlaw — Thu, 2 Jun 2022 18:35:28 GMT

Author: an-outlaw

Posted: 06/02/2022 22:35

Great stuff 😄 Keep up the good work!

Re: Best Ever Television?

BozoTyrannus — Thu, 2 Jun 2022 13:02:14 GMT

Author: BozoTyrannus

Posted: 06/02/2022 17:02

Seeing as there's countless standards of determining what is and is not a tv series, I propose the simplest and most absolutely straightforward method possible:

If IMDb calls it a "TV series" or a "TV Mini Series" then it's eligible.

M*A*S*H, a network TV series broadcast over years? TV series!
Dr. Horrible's Sing-along Blog, a 3 episode web show? TV series!
Threads? Nope, that's a TV movie and therefore ineligible.
Pitch Meeting, an ongoing series on YouTube? Apparently a TV series and therefore eligible
Mystery Science Theater 3000? That's TWO TV series and therefore BOTH are eligible.

Don't like it? Then give me another definite standard for inclusion. Otherwise I'm sticking with this.

Re: Best Ever Television?

Anonymous — Tue, 31 May 2022 05:05:14 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 05/31/2022 09:05

Another complication to consider: shows that have different versions due to remakes for different countries e.g. The Killing; Homeland; The Office. I think we would basically just need to be clear which version we are voting for.

I would probably include both versions of the Office, but they should be recognised as two different shows.

Re: Best Ever Television?

Anonymous — Tue, 31 May 2022 04:22:59 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 05/31/2022 08:22

Based on what folks are saying so far, maybe “best scripted tv series” would work as a potential header? This would then allow documentaries but would exclude chat shows, live events, sports coverage etc.

Edit: actually “scripted” might rule out a lot of documentaries as they are often unscripted.