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Re: Top Ranked Bands -- Currently Making Music

RoundTheBend — Wed, 14 Dec 2011 20:30:28 GMT

Author: RoundTheBend

Posted: 12/15/2011 01:30

an_outlaw wrote:

Good idea but incredibly biased and poorly executed. And people are arguing with 'Top Ranked Bands' on BEA. Okay, you can say it should change but asking why, well people put it on their charts. The original poster is not going to change it. 😕

What are we even talking about here?

I didn't want to change anything- I just wanted a clear picture of which of those artists are still creating music. I didn't realize that taking off paul simon and lou reed would've gotten the attention instead of discussing the greats of our current time. In my opinion I think Lou Reed and Paul Simon are the greats of an earlier time period. History won't write much about them as artists in the 2000s compared to 60s/70s, etc. I guess this idea wasn't grasped very well.

What we are talking about here are musicians that are still creating music that will be recognized as music from the 2000s in the history of music. Music historians won't be categorizing the 2000s as a time of Paul Simon or Lou Reed.

If we put our history behind us and focus on just what is out there right now, who would we like to be on the list?

Got a better way of executing it? This is a discussion, so by all means let us know. You said it was a good idea, so you understand the merit. Maybe you can convey it better.

Re: Top Ranked Bands -- Currently Making Music

Anonymous — Wed, 14 Dec 2011 08:46:30 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 12/14/2011 13:46

Good idea but incredibly biased and poorly executed. And people are arguing with 'Top Ranked Bands' on BEA. Okay, you can say it should change but asking why, well people put it on their charts. The original poster is not going to change it. 😕

What are we even talking about here?

Re: Top Ranked Bands -- Currently Making Music

RoundTheBend — Wed, 14 Dec 2011 00:39:14 GMT

Author: RoundTheBend

Posted: 12/14/2011 05:39

WillWill1989 wrote:

I would put PJ Harvey higher up

I would agree- that is part of the reason why I listed this- I think Foo Fighters should be higher. Dave Grohl has his finger in so many things. Their Wasting Light album was their first number 1 album (not that that matters) and shows they aren't dead yet.

I think when we take out greats like the stones, beatles, bowie, etc. all the obvious greats- it puts the rest possibly in a different light or is valued differently.

Re: Top Ranked Bands -- Currently Making Music

Robert Anton Wilson — Tue, 13 Dec 2011 23:58:04 GMT

Author: Robert Anton Wilson

Posted: 12/14/2011 04:58

Pearl Jam!!!

Re: Top Ranked Bands -- Currently Making Music

paladisiac — Tue, 13 Dec 2011 23:57:26 GMT

Author: paladisiac

Posted: 12/14/2011 04:57

Two of my current favs not on that list are hot chip and girl talk.

Re: Top Ranked Bands -- Currently Making Music

RoundTheBend — Tue, 13 Dec 2011 23:56:57 GMT

Author: RoundTheBend

Posted: 12/14/2011 04:56

Xavygravy wrote:

I don't get this 'fathers' thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oedipus_complex

Replace father, with idolized artists (whether today or 500 years ago), and anyone from a budding musician to almost idolized.

Re: Top Ranked Bands -- Currently Making Music

Jackwc — Tue, 13 Dec 2011 23:56:56 GMT

Author: Jackwc

Posted: 12/14/2011 04:56

How is Bon Iver so high?

Better question: how is Bon Iver on this list?

Re: Top Ranked Bands -- Currently Making Music

RoundTheBend — Tue, 13 Dec 2011 23:53:21 GMT

Author: RoundTheBend

Posted: 12/14/2011 04:53

Thank you Paladisiac.

It is kind of hard to clip out who- Sonic Youth and ac/dc probably should've been cut and R.E.M. put out an album this year that had a decent amount of critical acclaim, white stripes should probably just change to Jack White. I am sure that there are more depending on your opinions.

Any you would care to add to the list?

Re: Top Ranked Bands -- Currently Making Music

paladisiac — Tue, 13 Dec 2011 23:20:51 GMT

Author: paladisiac

Posted: 12/14/2011 04:20

By "current" do we mean to address "relevant" ? Because, sure "ac/dc" put out an album recently, but are they at their peak artistically or running on fumes? And what about a "band" like the smashing pumpkins who are basically a one-man band? How about Sonic Youth which may not even survive a divorce? Or R.E.M. and white stripes which are kapputs?

So in my opinion, i think that list needs to be trimmed. in the top 20 alone, i'd only keep

radiohead
arcade fire
coldplay
muse
strokes
flaming lips
sigur ros
arctic monkeys
wilco

Re: Top Ranked Bands -- Currently Making Music

WillWill1989 — Tue, 13 Dec 2011 23:12:57 GMT

Author: WillWill1989

Posted: 12/14/2011 04:12

I would put PJ Harvey higher up

Re: Top Ranked Bands -- Currently Making Music

Xavygravy — Tue, 13 Dec 2011 23:09:47 GMT

Author: Xavygravy

Posted: 12/14/2011 04:09

I don't get this 'fathers' thing.

Re: Top Ranked Bands -- Currently Making Music

RoundTheBend — Tue, 13 Dec 2011 22:24:12 GMT

Author: RoundTheBend

Posted: 12/14/2011 03:24

ok he could be on the list, but I think all of those artists should be then. That part of course is subjective, but the point I am making is they are all the "fathers" of music. All of them have already been put up as the greats. I almost took of Bands like R.E.M., U2 and Red Hot Chili Peppers, because they are almost fathers themselves, being the pioneers of their Genre's. The rest of the groups I think are still forming their histories.

Re: Top Ranked Bands -- Currently Making Music

M Hurley — Tue, 13 Dec 2011 22:18:38 GMT

Author: M Hurley

Posted: 12/14/2011 03:18

I still feel he's relevant and should be on the list. Who's to say his time has past?

Re: Top Ranked Bands -- Currently Making Music

RoundTheBend — Tue, 13 Dec 2011 22:15:30 GMT

Author: RoundTheBend

Posted: 12/14/2011 03:15

Paul Simon is by far one of my favorite artists, but he is definitely one of the fathers. All of those artists that I put a caveat for are still releasing music, and if you are a fan of theirs you will most likely like it. It's just that they will make music till they die and aren't really in the musical discourse anymore. Paul Simon might as well be the 6th Beatle, next to George Martin of course.

Re: Top Ranked Bands -- Currently Making Music

M Hurley — Tue, 13 Dec 2011 22:11:21 GMT

Author: M Hurley

Posted: 12/14/2011 03:11

Paul Simon and Lou Reed both just finished albums within months and are in my opinion still very relevant. Rolling Stone called "So Beautiful Or So What" the 3rd best album of the year.

Top Ranked Bands -- Currently Making Music

RoundTheBend — Tue, 13 Dec 2011 21:44:44 GMT

Author: RoundTheBend

Posted: 12/14/2011 02:44

Below is a list of artists that are on the Top Ranked Bands section of the website that are currently making music. I don't know every single band on the list, so if I missed one, it was because I didn't think they were worth confirming to see if they are still making music.

Who's not on the list that should make up the rest of this list because bands of the past didn't make room for them?

In doing this I learned what our musical culture could be like without the greats of the past. We talk about how we are sometimes stuck in the past- that we can't get passed the greats of the passed. Some Freudian theorists try to compare the Oedipus complex with art in that instead of becoming like the father, killing the father to possess the mother, it is becoming like the great artists of the past, and then "kill" them and possess the muse that they had. Interesting concept. Have these bands done that, or are they still hiding behind their "fathers?'

1. Radiohead
2. Arcade Fire
3. U2
4. Pearl Jam
5. Coldplay
6. Muse
7. R.E.M. (R.I.P. this year)
8. The Strokes
9. Metallica (doing an album with Lou Reed, believe it or not
10. The Smashing Pumpkins
11. Red Hot Chili Peppers
12. The White Stripes (didn't they break up though?)
13. Sonic Youth
14. The Flaming Lips
15. Sigur Rós
16. AC/DC (kinda, they just did a "reunion" type album)
17. Arctic Monkeys
18. Weezer
19. Green Day
20. Wilco
21. Tool
22. Beck
23. Modest Mouse
24. The National
25. Interpol
26. Portishead
27. Kanye West
28. Fleet Foxes
29. Animal Collective
30. Björk
31. Eminem
32. The Killers
33. Nine Inche Nails
34. Beastie Boys
35. Bon Iver
36. Belle & Sebastian
37. Foo Fighters
38. PJ Harvey
39. Sufjan Stevens
40. Queens of the Stone Age
41. Gorillaz
42. Kings of Leon
43. Vampire Weekend
44. Daft Punk
45. Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds
46. Porcupine Tree
47. Nas
48. Bloc Party
49. LCD Soundsystem (R.I.P. this year)
50. Public Enemy
51. TV on the Radio
52. Death Cab for Cutie
53. The Shins
54. Franz Ferdinand
55. MGMT
56. Bright Eyes
57. The Mars Volta
58. Jay-Z
59. Sublime (well, with Rome now)
60. Godspeed You! Black Emperor (?)
61. Air
62. Linkin Park
63. The Black Keys
64. DJ Shadow
65. Blink 182
66. Built to Spill
67. The xx
68. Guided by Voices
69. Yeah Yeah Yeahs
70. Boards of Canada
71. The Prodigy

People I left off the list because I feel their time has passed and will probably make music till they die, but doesn't mean they aren't good musicians: Paul Simon, Lou Reed, David Bowie, Neil Young, Kate Bush, Brian Eno, Paul McCartney, Tori Amos, Madonna, Alanis Morrisette, Tom Petty, Dr. Dre

I would add Elbow, As Tall As Lions, and Thrice to this list at first glance. Haven't really thought that much about it yet and analyzing who is there, and who isn't, but that is what this post is for.