Best Ever Albums

Re: The perfect catalog

Facetious — Sun, 4 Mar 2012 10:07:06 GMT

Author: Facetious

Posted: 03/04/2012 15:07

This is only for studio albums:

Joy Division
My Bloody Valentine
The Stooges (if you don't consider The Weirdness as a 'real' Stooges album)
Captain Beefheart (if you don't consider Bluejeans and Guaranteed as 'real' Beefheart albums)
Nick Drake
Arcade Fire
The Velvet Underground (if you don't consider Squeeze as 'real' VU albums)
The Beatles
Kanye West
Sex Pistols
Led Zeppelin
Jeff Buckley
Jimi Hendrix

IMO, a perfect catalog is the catalog where there's no album which is not at least 'very good'.

Re: The perfect catalog

Anonymous — Sat, 3 Mar 2012 21:48:07 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 03/04/2012 02:48

I would like to say The Stooges, but The Weirdness is just godawful. The best examples I can think of are My Bloody Valentine, Pavement, Pixies, Nick Drake, and Joy Division.

Re: The perfect catalog

pearljammer13 — Sat, 3 Mar 2012 21:44:50 GMT

Author: pearljammer13

Posted: 03/04/2012 02:44

Not sure if I might have already said this on this thread, but if the latest Shins album being released in a couple weeks is anywhere near as good as the first 3, they will have a perfect catalogue of 4 albums so far in my opinion. And a couple killer b sides as well.

Re: The perfect catalog

Chemical Smile — Sat, 3 Mar 2012 16:00:58 GMT

Author: Chemical Smile

Posted: 03/03/2012 21:00

2 albums and 1 ep in so far, but definitely perfection:
Silversun Pickups! 😎

Re: The perfect catalog

TrekkiELO — Sat, 3 Mar 2012 14:07:18 GMT

Author: TrekkiELO

Posted: 03/03/2012 19:07

Electric Light Orchestra

Re: The perfect catalog

The Gollux — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 15:02:15 GMT

Author: The Gollux

Posted: 12/26/2011 20:02

cartoken wrote:

The Gollux wrote:

Hayden wrote:

The Gollux wrote:

The velvet underground

Nope 🙁 They have 'Squeeze'

Which, really, should just be deleted from the world. ](*,)

Haha...forgot About "squeeze".
No Cale and no Lou... I like to pretend that it wasnt the VU who did that. But technically your right.

but
squeeze isn't a real VU album.

Unfortunately it is... They may not have had the key members but they went by The velvet underground when it was made.

Re: The perfect catalog

cartoken — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 02:45:50 GMT

Author: cartoken

Posted: 12/26/2011 07:45

nrs182 wrote:

I don't know if it was already mentioned, but LCD Soundsystem, only 3 records, but absolutely flawless don't you agree?

yes we did 😎

Re: The perfect catalog

ShaneSpear — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 00:06:36 GMT

Author: ShaneSpear

Posted: 12/26/2011 05:06

If you start the official Animal Collective canon at Here Comes the Indian (and if you enjoyed Here Comes the Indian of course...), you have a pretty good case.

Here Comes the Indian
Sung Tongs
Feels
Strawberry Jam
MPP

Re: The perfect catalog

maxperenchio — Sun, 25 Dec 2011 23:11:43 GMT

Author: maxperenchio

Posted: 12/26/2011 04:11

My bloody valentine, nick drake, nirvana, velvet underground, stooges, and joy division all come to mind with those strange/short but brilliant careers that left behind immaculate albums. Booooringgg... Zzzzz.... To me a great catalogue comes with arches of wild success and miserable failures.

But when I think musical catalogues semantically at least, I think of cold hard song lists. Even though the fab four had a few minor misteps, looking at their catalogue of songs, like alphabetically or something, is pretty unreal. The standard classic rock bands Floyd, Queen, Zep, Who, Stones, etc all have those thrilling lists of hit after hit.

Either way, like I said, I really value a nice career arc with some peaks and valleys, Reed, Bowie, Waits, Beefheart, Pop, Zappa, Radiohead, The Smashing Pumpkins, Springsteen, Kate Bush, and particularly Pink Floyd all really impress me with what they encompassed.

Everyone obviously fails though when compared to the epic sprawl of greatness that is the career of KISS

Re: The perfect catalog

nrs182 — Sun, 25 Dec 2011 23:04:00 GMT

Author: nrs182

Posted: 12/26/2011 04:04

I don't know if it was already mentioned, but LCD Soundsystem, only 3 records, but absolutely flawless don't you agree?

Re: The perfect catalog

maxpower — Sun, 25 Dec 2011 14:42:50 GMT

Author: maxpower

Posted: 12/25/2011 19:42

trying really hard to think of a bad/average Prefab Sprout album and struggling.

Re: The perfect catalog

cartoken — Sun, 25 Dec 2011 06:33:29 GMT

Author: cartoken

Posted: 12/25/2011 11:33

The Gollux wrote:

Hayden wrote:

The Gollux wrote:

The velvet underground

Nope 🙁 They have 'Squeeze'

Which, really, should just be deleted from the world. ](*,)

Haha...forgot About "squeeze".
No Cale and no Lou... I like to pretend that it wasnt the VU who did that. But technically your right.

but
squeeze isn't a real VU album.

Re: The perfect catalog

Anonymous — Sun, 25 Dec 2011 05:34:18 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 12/25/2011 10:34

Hayden

Re: The perfect catalog

The Gollux — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 12:58:06 GMT

Author: The Gollux

Posted: 12/24/2011 17:58

Hayden wrote:

The Gollux wrote:

The velvet underground

Nope 🙁 They have 'Squeeze'

Which, really, should just be deleted from the world. ](*,)

Haha...forgot About "squeeze".
No Cale and no Lou... I like to pretend that it wasnt the VU who did that. But technically your right.

Re: The perfect catalog

Anonymous — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 12:14:54 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 12/24/2011 17:14

Bork wrote:

Jhereko wrote:

Bork wrote:

Jhereko wrote:

Bork wrote:

Jhereko wrote:

Yea I know almost no one is gonna agree with me.

Only because you are wrong again. Still. Have a Merry Christmas. You guys are first to it.

Don't give me the ole "patpatstab" k that ain't nice. What do you mean "again"?

Are you telling me you've never been wrong before?

EDIT: And technically it was a stabpatpat.

🤣 When you put it that way...yes I've been wrong many times (I thought you were talking about a specific instance) and I'm not wrong this time! You just don't agree (just as I think AC/DC are about as far from a perfect catalogue as you can get) You have a Merry Christmas too :mrgreen:

Thank you. And while you celebrate Christmas down there with your fried kangaroo or whatever happens to be the tradition, please note that I never claimed AC/DC have a perfect catalog.

PS. I took the liberty of removing an unnecessary a, changing the initial w to a W, as well as making some other minor adjustments in your post when quoting it in order to improve readability.

sorry my computer died a few days ago and im having to type everything from my phone which is kinda annoying. It also means my music collection went with it 😢 but i've given it to a friend and hopefully he can fix it....but for now i'm stuck with my (admittedly ample) CD collection.

oh and "down here"we're a bit crazy...we'regonna b eating ham and turkey 😉

Re: The perfect catalog

Hayden — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 08:50:38 GMT

Author: Hayden

Posted: 12/24/2011 13:50

Jhereko wrote:

the person with the closest to that non-existent "perfect" catalogue is Kanye West. 5 albums in 7 years and all of them exceptional. All of them unique from each other while at the same time expanding and changing the genre he worked in. Yea I know almost no one is gonna agree with me.

Hm..Didn't think about that. He does have Watch The Throne though 😕 , which wasn't a flop, but it's not up to standards.

Same with Graduation 🤔

But his other 4 albums are great 😄

And I forgot about Simon & Garfunkel while making my list. They have a pretty perfect catalog 😄

Re: The perfect catalog

Facetious — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 03:46:20 GMT

Author: Facetious

Posted: 12/24/2011 08:46

Jhereko wrote:

Some great mentions already (LCD Soundsystem, Jo Newsom - the 6 albums between those 2 are all modern classics) but for me personally, the person with the closest to that non-existent "perfect" catalogue is Kanye West. 5 albums in 7 years and all of them exceptional. All of them unique from each other while at the same time expanding and changing the genre he worked in. Yea I know almost no one is gonna agree with me.

I do. �'�

Re: The perfect catalog

Facetious — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 03:45:42 GMT

Author: Facetious

Posted: 12/24/2011 08:45

If you ignore "The Weirdness", The Stooges had a near-perfect catalog. If you ignore "Beatles for Sale" and "Yellow Submarine", The Beatles had a near-perfect catalog.

Re: The perfect catalog

hairymarx1 — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 02:57:25 GMT

Author: hairymarx1

Posted: 12/24/2011 07:57

My Bloody Valentine
The Pop Group
Talking Heads
Morphine
Cramps
Stooges
Jeffersson Airplane
Joanna Newsom

Re: The perfect catalog

Anonymous — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 02:25:40 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 12/24/2011 07:25

Bork wrote:

swedenman wrote:

Bork wrote:

swedenman wrote:

I know they're a less obvious choice, but I think Queen definitely deserves some consideration here. I mean, I think they were by far the most consistent band through the 70s and 80s. Yes, there were bands that were bigger than them in both decades, but I'm not sure there were any bands that were bigger than them in the 70s who were also bigger than them in the 80s. Even I will admit that several of their albums are far from perfect, but with the possible exception of Rush I would have to say that no other band was as consistent as them for as long as them.

Bruce comes to mind as a contender to Queen on that one (bigger in 70's and also bigger in 80's), although personally I'd say Queen was the better of the two in the 70's and Bruce the better in the 80's. AC/DC might also be considered here. None of the three has a perfect catalog though. Queen have Hot Space and arguably A Day at the Races, Bruce has Human Touch and Lucky Town, AC/DC have For Those About to Rock and Fly on the Wall.

You really think A Day at the Races was their worst next to Hot Space? I'd probably put ADATR above everything they did in the 80s and most of what they did in the 70s (ANATO and Sheer Heart Attack being obvious exceptions).

But of those three Queen was by far the best, in my opinion, but that's mostly because I can't stand Bruce and because, in my opinion, AC/DC was just good, not great. They're all definitely contenders in terms of popularity, though.

I have A Night at the Opera as their second and Sheer Heart Attack as their fifth (Jazz #1, News #3, I #4). Queen II is arguably less good than ADATR. Neither is bad but not on the same level as their great work. Either way, Hot Space (while not as awful as some claim) is enough to keep them from a perfect catalog. Also, Queen may be one of the best bands if you look at their total output but they never really made a masterpiece album, just very good stuff.

Well, looking at my chart, I obviously disagree that they never made a masterpiece album, but to each his own, I suppose.

In my opinion, Sheer Heart Attack and ANATO were absolute masterpieces. ADATR would be a masterpiece if it weren't for Tie Your Mother Down, and Queen II has some of their best work with only a few weak tracks that bring it down. News of the World and Jazz are about on the same level for me. They both have some really great songs and a lot of not so great songs, but overall they're both very good albums. Their debut, Hot Space, A Kind of Magic, and Made in Heaven were by far their weakest efforts, though even those certainly had their highlights (I honestly love Heaven for Everyone from MiH and Action This Day from HS). Flash Gordon I don't even consider a true "album", but I can get into some of it. Everything else (The Game, The Works, The Miracle, and Innuendo) were all pretty great, but they were more collections of songs than actual albums.

So yeah, the way I see it, they had a pretty damn solid/consistent discography, but of course not perfect. Of course, I thought everything The Beatles put out before Rubber Soul was total shit, and I've never liked much Radiohead aside from OK Computer, so I guess I wouldn't really be willing to call ANY band's discography perfect.