Best Ever Albums

Re: Will anything in the future compare to the best ever?

RoundTheBend — Mon, 16 Jan 2012 23:13:57 GMT

Author: RoundTheBend

Posted: 01/17/2012 04:13

GARY wrote:

telefunker wrote:

Personally, I think we're approaching the end of an era musically. An era that encomapsses everything since Elvis to date. Making music is fast becoming something that anyone can do, given the pervasiveness and affordability of increasingly easier-to-use studio technology.

I think that eventually there will be a renaissance of sorts when someone comes up with something genuinely original and relevant. Perhaps using a completely different format the standard pop single/album. But in the mean time, there will probably be a lot of bedroom remixers, self-producing indie artists etc which will continue to plagiarise the last 60 years of music and remix old songs. A lot of automation from the technology too.

Basically, I think the line of distinction between the artists and the listener will become increasingly blurry until it doesn't exist. At that point, it's probably critical that something completely different comes along.

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Agreed! I also think this Indie movement is both great and horrible at the same time. It is counter productive. It is what good music is today. I am a total Marxist and agree that Bands don't need corporations to make good music. But then look at the most marxist band of all time- Rage Against the Machine. They were signed to Epic. I don't think saying that my music is too cool/good for everyone to hear is the stupidest thing. How can you make a rock/punk/rap/whatever revolution, if people aren't involved?

I like Piebald's view as well. I know this might be an overstatement, but I feel like this guy is this generations Bob Dylan, but totally different of course. What I mean is he is actually a poet first, singer second, and sings about things that are really relevant:

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Re: Will anything in the future compare to the best ever?

Romanelli — Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:29:02 GMT

Author: Romanelli

Posted: 01/11/2012 14:29

rilex wrote:

maxxy wrote:

I don't think any bands today can be anything like the Velvet Underground, Clash, Beatles, etc. Music is too stale these days. Especially the mainstream stuff. It's been the same shit for, like, 10 years. Rap is dead. No room for new stuff. Know what I mean?

Maybe I'm wrong. Please tell me why :lol:

I know what you are saying. I feel the same way.

What I want to know is if anyone is old enough to remember if people knew that that stuff (VU, Clash etc.) was classic at the time. I mean these bands were just people, famous people, but you know humans, not gods.

I like some 21st C. albums, but very little. Maybe it was just a bad decade (i.e. the 80s). The way I look at it is a 30 year cycle. 60s and 90s are my favorite, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything. Maybe we are starting a better decade. Maybe not.

People tend to idolize the past (myself included) because fantasy is better than reality and the reality of the 60s is gone.

Some 21st C. bands that I like, Built to Spill, Stephen Malkmus, Sonic Youth, Flaming Lips, are unfortunately 80s or 90s bands still playing, but still good.

I agree with your point, but I think that I am just getting old and my tastes are becoming more refined (snob).

I would say mainstream stuff has been the same for like 20 years, though. Haha...

I do remember that at the time of London Calling, The Clash were being called the greatest band in the world.

On the other hand, the word on VU was that the only people who actually listeded to them ended up being in bands.

That's what I remember hearing.

Re: Will anything in the future compare to the best ever?

GARY — Wed, 11 Jan 2012 08:41:20 GMT

Author: GARY

Posted: 01/11/2012 13:41

telefunker wrote:

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Re: Will anything in the future compare to the best ever?

Anonymous — Sat, 9 Apr 2011 15:06:14 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 04/09/2011 19:06

godammit Rilex, would you stop pulling these ancient threads outta the graveyard ?

Re: Will anything in the future compare to the best ever?

RFNAPLES — Sat, 9 Apr 2011 14:21:14 GMT

Author: RFNAPLES

Posted: 04/09/2011 18:21

Will anything in the future compare to the best ever?

YES

Re: Will anything in the future compare to the best ever?

dfulfo01 — Sat, 9 Apr 2011 13:10:50 GMT

Author: dfulfo01

Posted: 04/09/2011 17:10

maxxy wrote:

Kanye! he's all raps got going for it.

Re: Will anything in the future compare to the best ever?

rilex — Sat, 9 Apr 2011 06:17:09 GMT

Author: rilex

Posted: 04/09/2011 10:17

maxxy wrote:

Re: Will anything in the future compare to the best ever?

dp39 — Sat, 22 May 2010 02:19:47 GMT

Author: dp39

Posted: 05/22/2010 06:19

40footwolf wrote:

Freddie55 wrote:

40footwolf wrote:

And you can't seriously tell me that the Bay City Rollers are on the same level as The National.
Quit being intellectually dishonest. There was shitty music then and there's shitty music today. There was amazing music then and there's amazing music today. It's a progression of art, it's not a fucking contest, you dopes.

Totally agree with you "there is amazing music today".

Funny thing that you mention Bay City Rollers and their shit music though. For what it's worth, they sold somewhere between 70 million and 300 million albums depending on whose figures you believe. The boys are suing the label because they didn't get hardly any money. Go figure! Our modern day darlings Radiohead have sold about 10 million albums. But they get to see the money because they cut out the label.

I always feel bad for child performers. It's not their fault that the label is forcing them to make shit music and their parents treat them like circus clowns.

Well, with the exception of Bieber. Something about that kid is just...off.

You do gotta give it up to my man Bieber though, he is a playa. Anybody who can take the world in a strangle-hold and extort millions of dollars from them is a straight up baller. You can't hate the man for getting paid millions and having his little weiner played with by the hottest 16 girls on Earth.

Where it comes down to is yes the parents are all crazy, but it's mostly the parents of the child who are allowed to buy the records and watch the videos. Again Bieber's parents are putting their own child out there to dance like a clown so they can sip margarita's and get happy ending's on some island off the coast of Tahiti. But think about these buffoon parents who let them 14 year old daughter buy these records because 'he is a good influence'.

People said OJ Simpson was a role model (I'm from LA and went to SC and that mofo is no role-model, maybe for the next Hitler Youth). But come on you can't idolize a celebrity, these people are candy and don't have real emotions. If people idolize someone, their hero will either one by in jail or two be giving BJ's down on the corner of 45th & Watson for $3 a dick because their record label dropped them because they kid grew up and puberty was not kind to him and the ladies were not jocking his shit anymore.

I say shame on parents and society for allowing this to happen. There is still good music out there, but it is so hard to find because of society, not the record industry. They are having a hard enough time with illegal downloading, you do gotta feel kinda bad they lose so much money from that crap. So I don't blame them for putting out a little dorky kid in corduroys to tap dance and sing some bubblegum pop song for the 15 year old girls. Everyone has to eat.

Besides, I own My World 2.0 and want to have some sort of justification for it creeping into my top 20.

Re: Will anything in the future compare to the best ever?

dp39 — Fri, 21 May 2010 23:37:25 GMT

Author: dp39

Posted: 05/22/2010 03:37

40footwolf wrote:

Freddie55 wrote:

40footwolf wrote:

His haircut

Re: Will anything in the future compare to the best ever?

40footwolf — Fri, 21 May 2010 23:28:46 GMT

Author: 40footwolf

Posted: 05/22/2010 03:28

Freddie55 wrote:

40footwolf wrote:

Re: Will anything in the future compare to the best ever?

Freddie55 — Fri, 21 May 2010 22:56:37 GMT

Author: Freddie55

Posted: 05/22/2010 02:56

40footwolf wrote:

Re: Will anything in the future compare to the best ever?

SquishypuffDave — Fri, 21 May 2010 22:31:21 GMT

Author: SquishypuffDave

Posted: 05/22/2010 02:31

Cryptozoologist wrote:

You can't seriously say that Justin Bieber is on the same level as anything from the 60s / 70s.

And yes, I know about your precious indie rock, but that's only a small percentage of today's music. Plus it sucks.

Wow. I disagree with this comment on so many levels.

Firstly, you insinuate that Justin Beiber is a fairer representation of all modern music than the entirety of the 'indie rock' scene.

Secondly, I can guess with reasonable certainty that there are many many failures from the 60s/70s that are worse than Justin Beiber.

Thirdly, you seem intent on pitting the most mainstream examples possible against each other from different decades, as opposed to, say, the best music.
Even so, I recently borrowed an album from the library that accurately compiled the top radio hits of various years from the 60s, and it was HORRIBLE! It made me almost glad for the state of mainstream music. Sure it's horrible now, but it was always horrible.

Re: Will anything in the future compare to the best ever?

Applerill — Fri, 21 May 2010 22:26:59 GMT

Author: Applerill

Posted: 05/22/2010 02:26

40footwolf wrote:

Cryptozoologist wrote:

cartoken wrote:

i'm so sick with all this posts about this fucking old rock complex !

And you can't seriously tell me that the Bay City Rollers are on the same level as The National.

Quit being intellectually dishonest. There was shitty music then and there's shitty music today. There was amazing music then and there's amazing music today. It's a progression of art, it's not a fucking contest, you dopes.

Yeah, the thing that you have to realize is that, after a decade or two, the bad stuff is completely forgotten!

I know this because my school curriculum is known for not allowing rock music of any kind into their band. They only play classical, so they think that it's "better" than today's stuff.

The problem is, though, that they've never listened to OK Computer (or even DSOTM) and just judge the stuff that AC/DC spurned out (I'm not dissing them; I'm just saying). At the same time, they realize that, in the 1600s, there was probably just as much crap as there is today, if not more. This is the example I always bring up to them.

Re: Will anything in the future compare to the best ever?

40footwolf — Fri, 21 May 2010 22:19:53 GMT

Author: 40footwolf

Posted: 05/22/2010 02:19

Cryptozoologist wrote:

cartoken wrote:

i'm so sick with all this posts about this fucking old rock complex !

And you can't seriously tell me that the Bay City Rollers are on the same level as The National.

Quit being intellectually dishonest. There was shitty music then and there's shitty music today. There was amazing music then and there's amazing music today. It's a progression of art, it's not a fucking contest, you dopes.

Re: Will anything in the future compare to the best ever?

Cryptozoologist — Fri, 21 May 2010 21:56:57 GMT

Author: Cryptozoologist

Posted: 05/22/2010 01:56

[quote="cartoken"]i'm so sick with all this posts about this fucking old rock complex ![/quote]

You can't seriously say that Justin Bieber is on the same level as anything from the 60s / 70s.

And yes, I know about your precious indie rock, but that's only a small percentage of today's music. Plus it sucks.

Re: Will anything in the future compare to the best ever?

Wumbo — Thu, 20 May 2010 00:15:42 GMT

Author: Wumbo

Posted: 05/20/2010 04:15

Invent some new instruments, and the first band to play them well will be the next superstar 😉

Every time someone says a medium of art is getting stale, I just sigh and think they're not looking hard enough. Maybe weird stuff just gravitates toward me, because I never have a problem finding innovative work.

Re: Will anything in the future compare to the best ever?

maxperenchio — Wed, 19 May 2010 23:32:47 GMT

Author: maxperenchio

Posted: 05/20/2010 03:32

The industry is strangling music more than anything- labels are all going under, they have to take less risks, which means less interesting music. Once the labels get their heads out of their asses and the industry stabilizes, I think popular music will be better. Indie music has gotten lazy, and I think the majority of indie bands forgot how to write great songs, instead falling victim to temporary moments of flash. I had a lot of faith in indie bands in 2007, but it stagnated.

Re: Will anything in the future compare to the best ever?

thomas697 — Wed, 19 May 2010 09:54:58 GMT

Author: thomas697

Posted: 05/19/2010 13:54

an_outlaw wrote:

thomas697 wrote:

an_outlaw wrote:

thomas697 wrote:

Fox John wrote:

i think it would be foolish to assume that there won't be one or two albums from this decade that will be considered to be comparable with the best of all time. There are albums from every decade from the 1960s through the 2000s in the top twenty of the overall list, i don't see why that trend shouldn't continue

Pretty impossible to disagree, I think this decade though Arcade fire will be the new Radiohead

Arcade Fire had their turn. I'll see to it :P

Not a fan?

I am (of some songs anyway). But 2010 is my decade not Arcade Fire's :wink:

Your decade? .. I really dont know how to take that .. Am i missing something blatantly obvious? 🙄

Re: Will anything in the future compare to the best ever?

Anonymous — Wed, 19 May 2010 09:49:37 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 05/19/2010 13:49

thomas697 wrote:

an_outlaw wrote:

thomas697 wrote:

Fox John wrote:

Pretty impossible to disagree, I think this decade though Arcade fire will be the new Radiohead

Arcade Fire had their turn. I'll see to it :P

Not a fan?

I am (of some songs anyway). But 2010 is my decade not Arcade Fire's 😉

Re: Will anything in the future compare to the best ever?

thomas697 — Wed, 19 May 2010 09:43:55 GMT

Author: thomas697

Posted: 05/19/2010 13:43

an_outlaw wrote:

thomas697 wrote:

Fox John wrote:

Pretty impossible to disagree, I think this decade though Arcade fire will be the new Radiohead

Arcade Fire had their turn. I'll see to it :P

Not a fan?