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Re: Average Song Rating for Album

Xavygravy — Mon, 2 Apr 2012 17:36:51 GMT

Author: Xavygravy

Posted: 04/02/2012 21:36

albummaster wrote:

I think the average is useful for some albums, but less so for others.

Yes, I did read the original post, but you have to realise it's a trade-off of my time against the value that I think the site will get from a new feature. It's simply not possible to develop every feature that everybody asks for, exactly to their liking, and within the time constraint that I am under (even if I was getting paid for it!). I could always come back to this once year charts, tagging and so on have been added. Nothing is ever set in stone, and I see what there is now as a fairly good start.

If we're prioritizing here, then I agree that this is the lowest priority. I think we would all much rather see the things you mentioned.

Re: Average Song Rating for Album

albummaster — Mon, 2 Apr 2012 10:25:30 GMT

Author: albummaster

Posted: 04/02/2012 14:25

I think the average is useful for some albums, but less so for others.

Yes, I did read the original post, but you have to realise it's a trade-off of my time against the value that I think the site will get from a new feature. It's simply not possible to develop every feature that everybody asks for, exactly to their liking, and within the time constraint that I am under (even if I was getting paid for it!). I could always come back to this once year charts, tagging and so on have been added. Nothing is ever set in stone, and I see what there is now as a fairly good start.

Re: Average Song Rating for Album

Xavygravy — Mon, 2 Apr 2012 08:23:07 GMT

Author: Xavygravy

Posted: 04/02/2012 12:23

Ah, it's there! 😎

Although, I'd still like to be able to see the average of my ratings, as well as the average ratings of other users (as it is currently) - see the original post.

Thanks!

Re: Average Song Rating for Album

Jabapac — Mon, 2 Apr 2012 08:09:25 GMT

Author: Jabapac

Posted: 04/02/2012 12:09

I know that this idea has just taking action, but I figured out how it's seems pointless. because many, many albums have those kinds of intros, outros, skits etc, and those usually are getting low averages as showing clearly around the site, while the fact that they usually don't affect how people look to an album that much. so the idea (album songs' average) is pointless at many times.

Re: Average Song Rating for Album

Facetious — Mon, 30 Jan 2012 05:27:56 GMT

Author: Facetious

Posted: 01/30/2012 10:27

Other than that, I definitely support this idea.

Re: Average Song Rating for Album

Facetious — Mon, 30 Jan 2012 05:27:25 GMT

Author: Facetious

Posted: 01/30/2012 10:27

Xavygravy wrote:

Did any of you read this?

albummaster wrote:

I don't think it would detract from anything else, it would just be a secondary metric that might appear near the track-listing and wouldn't affect the rating for the album (a few people have asked for it already, and it's been on my list for a while). I agree, it shouldn't be the only criteria for judging an album.

Haha, I was gonna post that......... �'� for The Great Xave for doing it before me!

Re: Average Song Rating for Album

Xavygravy — Sun, 29 Jan 2012 15:22:36 GMT

Author: Xavygravy

Posted: 01/29/2012 20:22

Did any of you read this?

albummaster wrote:

Re: Average Song Rating for Album

Jabapac — Sun, 29 Jan 2012 14:50:48 GMT

Author: Jabapac

Posted: 01/29/2012 19:50

Quote:

No. Because for most people the biggest "hits" by a band doesn't equal best "songs" by the band

Not all of them are "greatest hits", some are "the best of" subject. specially those come out from great bands, and many of them don't make Hits already. so they could top the list.

Re: Average Song Rating for Album

19loveless91 — Sun, 29 Jan 2012 11:12:28 GMT

Author: 19loveless91

Posted: 01/29/2012 16:12

RFNAPLES wrote:

If the ratings of tracks affects the rating of the album, would we expect all the Greatest Hits albums to be the highest rated for each artist?

No. Because for most people the biggest "hits" by a band doesn't equal best "songs" by the band

Re: Average Song Rating for Album

RFNAPLES — Sun, 29 Jan 2012 11:04:36 GMT

Author: RFNAPLES

Posted: 01/29/2012 16:04

If the ratings of tracks affects the rating of the album, would we expect all the Greatest Hits albums to be the highest rated for each artist?

Re: Average Song Rating for Album

albummaster — Sun, 29 Jan 2012 10:48:39 GMT

Author: albummaster

Posted: 01/29/2012 15:48

Jabapac wrote:

Quote:

As a side note, I had an interesting PM recently from someone who suggested there is a missing X factor between the average rating of the songs on an album and the rating for the whole album. It was put forward that some albums are rated more highly than the average rating of the tracks would otherwise suggest e.g. Sgt. Peppers was an example given. It might be interesting to see this more clearly.

First piont, it could be just a matter of time for many albums due the fact that songs got a low number of ratings until now, which makes it not necessarily looks accurate. 'few opinions (ratings here) do not value something accurately in usual.

Second point, we shouldn't encourage that kind of relation between albums and their songs, because it's simply doesn't work like that.

Re: Average Song Rating for Album

Xavygravy — Sun, 29 Jan 2012 06:30:26 GMT

Author: Xavygravy

Posted: 01/29/2012 11:30

Jabapac wrote:

Quote:

First piont, it could be just a matter of time for many albums due the fact that songs got low number of ratings until now, which makes it not necessarily looks accurate.

Second point, we shouldn't encourage that kind of relation between albums and their songs, because it's simply doesn't work like that.

It's a good guideline; I'd personally use it as a base rating which I'd add or subtract from.

Re: Average Song Rating for Album

Jabapac — Sun, 29 Jan 2012 06:24:27 GMT

Author: Jabapac

Posted: 01/29/2012 11:24

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Re: Average Song Rating for Album

albummaster — Sun, 29 Jan 2012 03:41:44 GMT

Author: albummaster

Posted: 01/29/2012 08:41

yes, the average rating of the songs on an album is something on the list and it would be an extra indicator (and could also add the individual track average as well like you suggested).

As a side note, I had an interesting PM recently from someone who suggested there is a missing X factor between the average rating of the songs on an album and the rating for the whole album. It was put forward that some albums are rated more highly than the average rating of the tracks would otherwise suggest e.g. Sgt. Peppers was an example given. It might be interesting to see this more clearly.

Average Song Rating for Album

Xavygravy — Sat, 28 Jan 2012 17:05:06 GMT

Author: Xavygravy

Posted: 01/28/2012 22:05

I think it would be cool to be able to see the average rating of all the tracks you rated on the album at the bottom of the tracks.
e.g. I rate the tracks: 70, 80, 90, 100, 100, 30.
At the bottom it would show: Your Average Song Rating: 78.3
It could also show: Users' Average Song Rating: 74.6

This could help with us rating the albums, and give us another way to see if an album is worth listening to.