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Re: Best AND most disastrous reunions

Chemical Smile — Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:53:30 GMT

Author: Chemical Smile

Posted: 02/21/2012 15:53

sethmadsen wrote:

demetrios wrote:

I agree that the Smashing Pumpkins have been largely inconsistent
BUT
Am I the only one who believes that Teargarden by Kaleidyscope is actually a return to the good albums?

I like em. I mean I guess the idea of a band reunion is that a band reunites. And well that failed for the pumpkins, but I liked Zeitgeist (especially the new style of vocals) and think Teargarden is awesome.

that's interesting, for me the vocals were the major turn-off. While Billy doesn't exactly have the voice of an angel, it is the sound of the band, but the way the back-up harmonies/vocals were done made his voice more annoying than it should have been. I would have preferred them to be slightly more subtle, or even done by someone else (D'arcy & James did do backup vocals on a few songs on Mellon Collie as far as i know)...

Re: Best AND most disastrous reunions

RoundTheBend — Tue, 21 Feb 2012 09:29:38 GMT

Author: RoundTheBend

Posted: 02/21/2012 14:29

demetrios wrote:

I agree that the Smashing Pumpkins have been largely inconsistent
BUT
Am I the only one who believes that Teargarden by Kaleidyscope is actually a return to the good albums?

Re: Best AND most disastrous reunions

Romanelli — Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:12:43 GMT

Author: Romanelli

Posted: 02/20/2012 19:12

junodog4 wrote:

Romanelli wrote:

junodog4 wrote:

After Steven Tyler nearly killed himself in a motorbike accident, Joe Perry and Brad Whitford visited him in the hospital, laying the groundwork for an Aerosmith reunion. While their 70s work is better, they still produced quality work after getting back together.

The thing with Aerosmith, though, is that they never actually broke up, and they never stopped making albums even with Perry & Whitford gone.

I suppose... They never did completely breakup, but you could make a similar (best less viable) case about Guns and Roses (kept going, but without their original line-up). Aerosmith was dead without their guitar players. Have you heard the crap they released then? (Rock in a Hard Place) Joe Perry was gone for 5 years, and Aerosmith was spiraling to oblivion without him and Whitford. I'd still call it a reunion.

True. And I'd say more so that GNR. GNR has been Axel hoarding the band name while spending over a decade trying to record what was basically a bad solo album. Axel had none of the original lineup...Tyler at least had the original rhythm section still around.

Re: Best AND most disastrous reunions

junodog4 — Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:49:40 GMT

Author: junodog4

Posted: 02/20/2012 18:49

Romanelli wrote:

junodog4 wrote:

The thing with Aerosmith, though, is that they never actually broke up, and they never stopped making albums even with Perry & Whitford gone.

Re: Best AND most disastrous reunions

demetrios — Fri, 17 Feb 2012 14:17:55 GMT

Author: demetrios

Posted: 02/17/2012 19:17

I agree that the Smashing Pumpkins have been largely inconsistent
BUT
Am I the only one who believes that Teargarden by Kaleidyscope is actually a return to the good albums?

Re: Best AND most disastrous reunions

Mr. Shankly — Fri, 17 Feb 2012 10:54:46 GMT

Author: Mr. Shankly

Posted: 02/17/2012 15:54

Romanelli wrote:

Reunions are pretty much always bad and produce very little worth listening to. I wouldn't get too excited about any kind of Stone Roses thing.

I'm optimistic. 😄

Re: Best AND most disastrous reunions

Romanelli — Fri, 17 Feb 2012 08:02:54 GMT

Author: Romanelli

Posted: 02/17/2012 13:02

yepyepyep wrote:

Swans reformed and produced a good album. The worst reunion is probably Smashing Pumpkins, who at this point only has Billy as an orignal member, which kind of defeats the whole point of a band reunion.

Swans was always Michael Gira and a revolving door of musicians...more of a solo act than an acrtual band, really.

Re: Best AND most disastrous reunions

Romanelli — Fri, 17 Feb 2012 07:58:01 GMT

Author: Romanelli

Posted: 02/17/2012 12:58

junodog4 wrote:

The thing with Aerosmith, though, is that they never actually broke up, and they never stopped making albums even with Perry & Whitford gone.

Re: Best AND most disastrous reunions

yepyepyep — Fri, 17 Feb 2012 00:23:32 GMT

Author: yepyepyep

Posted: 02/17/2012 05:23

Swans reformed and produced a good album. The worst reunion is probably Smashing Pumpkins, who at this point only has Billy as an orignal member, which kind of defeats the whole point of a band reunion.

Re: Best AND most disastrous reunions

junodog4 — Thu, 16 Feb 2012 22:58:21 GMT

Author: junodog4

Posted: 02/17/2012 03:58

After Steven Tyler nearly killed himself in a motorbike accident, Joe Perry and Brad Whitford visited him in the hospital, laying the groundwork for an Aerosmith reunion. While their 70s work is better, they still produced quality work after getting back together.

Re: Best AND most disastrous reunions

Chemical Smile — Thu, 16 Feb 2012 17:51:34 GMT

Author: Chemical Smile

Posted: 02/16/2012 22:51

Johnny Flynn wrote:

demetrios wrote:

I've just read that Guns'n Roses might be reuniting later this year.
And I thought "great"
But then I thought... so many times you get great bands that split up. And then they reunite and they record new stuff and... they SUCK. And you start to think "NOT SO GREAT after all". Or "maybe they should have NOT done it. It would have been better for their reputation".

Examples?
Which reunions, you think, produced good albums (we're not talking here about groups that reunite just for a tour, we're talking about productive reunions).
And which reunions you thought were REALLY disastrous?

I for one am hoping that the Stone Roses are not going to disappoint us.
Still... I think... it's a difficult task!

The Eagles while really bad before became putrid with their awful reunion.

I have this same hesitation with GnR....too be honest i'd be surprised if it even comes off regarding the amount of hatred/shit thrown up between the current members (Axel) and past (Slash).....it would be truely awesome if Axel, Slash, Duff, Izzy, Steve and Duff got together and performed 'Sweet Child O'Mine', 'Paradise City' and 'It's So Easy' 😎

My ultimate frustration though is directed towards Smashing Pumpkins. This was the band i grew up with and loved with a passion. When they broke up in 2000 (without Darcy tho) I thanked myself lucky enough to catch one of their final concerts @ Wembley Area in London. I was really disappointed with Zeigeist, and now with all the rent-a-members currently in the 'band' it's just not the Pumpkins. Really, Billy should have just come up with a different name and preserved the legacy of the Pumpkins. Don't get me wrong, he's a great songwriter, but i wish he could just see that it's over and it's better to venture on not using the name and legacy of his previous (and perhaps, only) successful band and try and start afresh.

My other issue concerning this is with the reformed Pixies. Like many other people, I was excited that i could see a band that i really got into after they had broken up. I saw them on their 1st nostalgia trek back in 2004 and it was great to finally hear all the tracks live that i'd fallen in love with. But since then they've turned into some kind of greatest hits machine, touring year after year playing the same songs while not releasing any new material. My disgust reached a height when i read an interview with Frank Black where he said they'd play any gig depending on the payout.....that tarnished my view of them, and in my eyes, ruined a very reputable band and went against the very values they held....

Re: Best AND most disastrous reunions

Romanelli — Thu, 16 Feb 2012 17:18:00 GMT

Author: Romanelli

Posted: 02/16/2012 22:18

Guns 'N' Roses...yuck. An overrated band with one good record that was out of material in 2 albums proving that the Rock & Roll HOF is a total waste of time and space will also prove that any kind of reunion will also prove to be the same.

Reunions are pretty much always bad and produce very little worth listening to. I wouldn't get too excited about any kind of Stone Roses thing.

Re: Best AND most disastrous reunions

nrs182 — Thu, 16 Feb 2012 17:09:05 GMT

Author: nrs182

Posted: 02/16/2012 22:09

I'm worried about the Beach Boys reunion, but i feel optimistic about the Stone Roses actually. About guns n roses I think they will just play for the hall fo fame induction and that's it, I dont expect a new album with Slash and Axl together.

Re: Best AND most disastrous reunions

Johnny Flynn — Thu, 16 Feb 2012 17:02:03 GMT

Author: Johnny Flynn

Posted: 02/16/2012 22:02

demetrios wrote:

The Eagles while really bad before became putrid with their awful reunion.

Best AND most disastrous reunions

demetrios — Thu, 16 Feb 2012 11:27:51 GMT

Author: demetrios

Posted: 02/16/2012 16:27

I've just read that Guns'n Roses might be reuniting later this year.
And I thought "great"
But then I thought... so many times you get great bands that split up. And then they reunite and they record new stuff and... they SUCK. And you start to think "NOT SO GREAT after all". Or "maybe they should have NOT done it. It would have been better for their reputation".

Examples?
Which reunions, you think, produced good albums (we're not talking here about groups that reunite just for a tour, we're talking about productive reunions).
And which reunions you thought were REALLY disastrous?

I for one am hoping that the Stone Roses are not going to disappoint us.
Still... I think... it's a difficult task!