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Re: Football or Soccer

HigherThanTheSun — Thu, 7 Jun 2012 11:22:05 GMT

Author: HigherThanTheSun

Posted: 06/07/2012 15:22

"UK government boycotts Euro 2012 over Ukraine treatment of Tymoshenko"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/07/euro-2012-boycott-ukraine-uk-government

Re: Football or Soccer

19loveless91 — Wed, 30 May 2012 09:37:23 GMT

Author: 19loveless91

Posted: 05/30/2012 13:37

Well I will retract my previous statement slightly, because if all of that was translated correctly, the trouble is that authorities either don't want to see that there is a problem, or they simply think that it's "not a big deal" that these clubs (and we're actually talking about major clubs here) have nationalistic and racist groups "supporting" them. I mean you're still able to see stuff like this happening elsewhere, even in UK, but at least it's being dealt with.
On the other hand I still think there shouldn't be a problem in the matches during Euro, at least no more than in any other Euro or World Cup so far. I haven't really heard about any major trouble on Ukraine or Poland international matches, which should at least indicate that those groups keep their shit at the local level or that they're not allowed to go to those matches, unlike some countries, where these groups cause trouble on international level as well (e.g. Croatia, Serbia). Though of course, that still leaves the problem of such groups in the host cities. I mean I know they cause problems when it's their teams playing but you can see that they're totally batshit insane, wouldn't put anything past them...

One thing about the video though.. I can't shake the feeling that it's horribly biased. It focuses on the "ultras" groups, even says how "all" teams in Poland have such fan groups. Then they just say how they shouldn't host the Euro because of this. Like trying to say, "well this is what you'll get when you come here"

Re: Football or Soccer

Anonymous — Wed, 30 May 2012 04:48:19 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 05/30/2012 08:48

Found the full episode on youtube

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Re: Football or Soccer

19loveless91 — Wed, 30 May 2012 03:32:58 GMT

Author: 19loveless91

Posted: 05/30/2012 07:32

I saw some of that footage on our news, too, along with Sol Campbell saying something about people returning back home in coffins...

Now I haven't seen the whole Panorama, so I can't really be sure at how all of this was portrayed, how objective was it trying to be. But the way I see it, it seems to me that some people are exaggerating way too much. I mean, idiots are everywhere, and you could make a similar "documentary" just about anywhere in the world. You just gotta talk to the right people and go to the right places. Now I don't know how bad the situation is over there. It might well be worse than the rest of the world. But still, there are many non-white players playing for the clubs over there, and I don't seem to recall any incident before this right now. No cases where a player would want to leave the club and country for "feeling unsafe" (but as I said I haven't seen Panorama and I don't know if they maybe showed some examples of that happening).
Bottom line is, this being a European Championship, with better safety standards and greater exposure to the world, I seriously doubt any incident of note will happen. If anything should, I'm sure the authorities will be quick to deal with it

Re: Football or Soccer

Anonymous — Tue, 29 May 2012 19:54:19 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 05/29/2012 23:54

DLGGLD wrote:

Did anyone see Panorama the other night about racism in Ukraine and Poland ahead of the Euros.One complaint i'd have about football is the governing bodies have no clue how to run the game.It was a terrible decision to have the tournament in countries with such problems,so much so that not only fans are avoiding going but apparently the families of some of the English players.

Considering what I saw on the NZ news (which I think was taken from the Panorama thing), I wouldn't be surprised if some of the players decided not to go either!

I always thought UEFA was better than FIFA (ie not quite as corrupt and buyable) but obviously not, as it looks like the money has played a bigger role yet again at the cost of fan and player safety...

What I am dreading is the Championships turning into some kind of hooligans summit which could well happen if the authorities are not careful...

Re: Football or Soccer

GeevyDallas — Tue, 29 May 2012 19:28:43 GMT

Author: GeevyDallas

Posted: 05/29/2012 23:28

Did anyone see Panorama the other night about racism in Ukraine and Poland ahead of the Euros.One complaint i'd have about football is the governing bodies have no clue how to run the game.It was a terrible decision to have the tournament in countries with such problems,so much so that not only fans are avoiding going but apparently the families of some of the English players.

Re: Football or Soccer

19loveless91 — Tue, 29 May 2012 11:46:08 GMT

Author: 19loveless91

Posted: 05/29/2012 15:46

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Re: Football or Soccer

HigherThanTheSun — Tue, 29 May 2012 09:00:51 GMT

Author: HigherThanTheSun

Posted: 05/29/2012 13:00

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I'm not that much of a cynic really, I'm gonna get well into the Euros this year.

I struggle to get excited about club football though, although it doesn't help that there's not a decent side within 100 miles.

Re: Football or Soccer

junodog4 — Mon, 28 May 2012 21:18:39 GMT

Author: junodog4

Posted: 05/29/2012 01:18

HigherThanTheSun wrote:

This sums up my thoughts on football

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Love it... 🤣 You could do the same thing in Canada for hockey.

Re: Football or Soccer

HigherThanTheSun — Mon, 28 May 2012 13:41:44 GMT

Author: HigherThanTheSun

Posted: 05/28/2012 17:41

This sums up my thoughts on football

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Re: Football or Soccer

junodog4 — Sat, 19 May 2012 14:44:47 GMT

Author: junodog4

Posted: 05/19/2012 18:44

Back to the Prem... A bit of a nail-biter, but who cares? Wooooooooo! 😁 😁 😁

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/report?id=341655&cc=5901

Re: Football or Soccer

TrekkiELO — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 17:11:55 GMT

Author: TrekkiELO

Posted: 04/21/2012 21:11

Soccer

Re: Football or Soccer

Cafu86 — Fri, 20 Apr 2012 15:49:59 GMT

Author: Cafu86

Posted: 04/20/2012 19:49

Hayden wrote:

Soccer.

I seem to be the minority :oops:

Yeah a quite disappointing poll!

Re: Football or Soccer

junodog4 — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 11:02:12 GMT

Author: junodog4

Posted: 04/11/2012 15:02

In Canada, we're like most North Americans and call it soccer, unless you're a fan. Then it's football. If like me, you're a fan of West Ham United, you call it disappointment. Or frustration. Or tragedy. 🙁

Re: Football or Soccer

ross93 — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 10:23:58 GMT

Author: ross93

Posted: 04/11/2012 14:23

100% Football not heard of anywhere in the uk that calls it anything else. Apart from the scots who often say 'fetbaw' but obviously not spelt like that :p

Re: Football or Soccer

Anonymous — Sun, 8 Apr 2012 19:40:24 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 04/08/2012 23:40

United won.... City lost

The world is back to normal again... 😁

Oh and Football never Soccer!

Re: Football or Soccer

HigherThanTheSun — Sun, 8 Apr 2012 19:29:08 GMT

Author: HigherThanTheSun

Posted: 04/08/2012 23:29

Error Finn wrote:

Interestingly the upcoming Olympics has to be Britain's football team, not England or Scotland, such as the World Cup or European Championships. :idea:

Yes this is true and has caused alot of problems for the four football associations which make up the UK, alot of politics over who gets picked etc and the effect it might have on the associations status as independent teams (importantly each with a vote at FIFA).

This is why GB hasn't had a football team at the olympics for decades, too much politics.

Re: Football or Soccer

Error Finn — Sun, 8 Apr 2012 16:07:27 GMT

Author: Error Finn

Posted: 04/08/2012 20:07

HigherThanTheSun wrote:

Yes rugby is called rugby everywhere only there are two different codes of rugby, rugby union and rugby league, which have a few major differances between them. Rugby union is the most widely played across the globe although rugby league is more popular in certain areas like some parts of Australia and NZ and parts of northern England.

One might call rugby 'rugger' only if one is the type of person who wears a barbour jacket and sends his darlings to one of the finest schools in the country. At Eton I've no doubt they play 'rugger' instead of rugby, to the plebs it's just rugby 😉

As for whether it's football or soccer, well obviously where I'm from it's football.

Interestingly the upcoming Olympics has to be Britain's football team, not England or Scotland, such as the World Cup or European Championships. �'�

Re: Football or Soccer

HigherThanTheSun — Sun, 8 Apr 2012 14:13:09 GMT

Author: HigherThanTheSun

Posted: 04/08/2012 18:13

Error Finn wrote:

I have to learn new things .. certainly tennis or rugby are everywhere the same name? or what?

Re: Football or Soccer

19loveless91 — Sun, 8 Apr 2012 11:11:27 GMT

Author: 19loveless91

Posted: 04/08/2012 15:11

A Slovenian word for it is "nogomet", but I think most people here call it with the german word "Fußball" ("fuzbal" if I tried to write it in slovenian. Not grammatically correct of course)