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Re: Michael Jackson has died

maxxy — Mon, 6 Jul 2009 14:30:53 GMT

Author: maxxy

Posted: 07/06/2009 18:30

Elston wrote:

Damn straight. That's why I wanna open a real legit pimpin' school, but the gov are such hipocrits

True...

Re: Michael Jackson has died

Elston — Sun, 5 Jul 2009 22:37:53 GMT

Author: Elston

Posted: 07/06/2009 02:37

Damn straight. That's why I wanna open a real legit pimpin' school, but the gov are such hipocrits

Re: Michael Jackson has died

Richie Hunt — Sun, 5 Jul 2009 22:16:15 GMT

Author: Richie Hunt

Posted: 07/06/2009 02:16

exactly, and why not make some money out of peoples primitive drive?

Re: Michael Jackson has died

telefunker — Sun, 5 Jul 2009 09:44:09 GMT

Author: telefunker

Posted: 07/05/2009 13:44

no, i agree

we are but cavemen playing out our primitive drives in a world of internets and moon landings.. sport is the new war and celebrities are the new gods

Re: Michael Jackson has died

Elston — Sun, 5 Jul 2009 09:06:54 GMT

Author: Elston

Posted: 07/05/2009 13:06

But it's not only business. I think in our spiritually empty world people have forgotten the cathartic power of worship. It seems like all people have these days are pop heroes to look up to, instead of Gods. I think what we're seeing is a primitive ritual playing itself out in modern times. I challenge anyone to come up with a more pretentious answer than that.

Re: Michael Jackson has died

Richie Hunt — Sat, 4 Jul 2009 22:04:07 GMT

Author: Richie Hunt

Posted: 07/05/2009 02:04

dont think too hard, its all about the moolah

Re: Michael Jackson has died

telefunker — Sat, 4 Jul 2009 19:52:51 GMT

Author: telefunker

Posted: 07/04/2009 23:52

i do share your antipathy for the self indulgent histrionics of the uninitiated attention seekers.. when i see people in the streets crying, then 'singing along' to billie jean without even knowing the tune let alone the lyrics, it becomes apparent something is up

i don't know where all this faux-grief comes from, but i find it weirder than michael jackson ever was..

Re: Michael Jackson has died

br1 — Sat, 4 Jul 2009 17:36:04 GMT

Author: br1

Posted: 07/04/2009 21:36

the man that showed us that zombies can be pretty good dancers (see Thriller's videos) is gone.

The man who taught gangs to fix their disputes through dancing (see Beat It video) is gone.

The man that slept with children (did they ever had sex?) and kept his artistic reputation is gone.

We'll carry on, I guess, but... Isn't it weird when a strange and slightly creepy guy is dead?

Re: Michael Jackson has died

Richie Hunt — Sat, 4 Jul 2009 10:06:37 GMT

Author: Richie Hunt

Posted: 07/04/2009 14:06

people dont know what they got til its gone... companys know how to get what they want when someones gone

Re: Michael Jackson has died

joannajewsom — Sat, 4 Jul 2009 09:53:28 GMT

Author: joannajewsom

Posted: 07/04/2009 13:53

maxxy wrote:

At this point i am thoroughly SICK of hearing about michael jackson. Jackson this, Jackson that, Jackson tribute, Jackson's children, mother argues for custody....Its been over a week. Nobody gives a fuck anymore.

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Blows my mind, the ungodly amount of "R.I.P. Michael Jackson" posts that were on facebook the day he died.

People loooove celebrity deaths. And what's with all these people rushing out to buy people's albums when they die? Do they think they're going to bury the CDs with the body? Wouldn't any Michael Jackson fan already have his albums? I find it very strange.

Re: Michael Jackson has died

maxxy — Sat, 4 Jul 2009 09:31:47 GMT

Author: maxxy

Posted: 07/04/2009 13:31

At this point i am thoroughly SICK of hearing about michael jackson. Jackson this, Jackson that, Jackson tribute, Jackson's children, mother argues for custody....Its been over a week. Nobody gives a fuck anymore.

Re: Michael Jackson has died

telefunker — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 03:27:13 GMT

Author: telefunker

Posted: 06/29/2009 07:27

i think that's due more to the taboo of speaking ill of the dead.. in his lifetime, the media never hesitated to chastise his idiosyncracies

to be fair though, i think michael himself was acutely aware of the power of publicity and was complicit in cultivating his image as a mystery man.. so as a realist, it's difficult to have too much sympathy with him on that level

Re: Michael Jackson has died

Elston — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:57:57 GMT

Author: Elston

Posted: 06/29/2009 01:57

It's weird to hear everyone in the media acting so empathetic regarding his crimes and eccentricities. Most criminals are vilified by the common folk. I guess if you sell enough records, people will be more understanding.

Re: Michael Jackson has died

maxxy — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 11:48:19 GMT

Author: maxxy

Posted: 06/27/2009 15:48

He was onstage his whole life-no normal upbringing. And I don't think he was purely heterosexual, either--maybe pedophile, maybe asexual, who knows? He was Wacko Jacko 😉

Re: Michael Jackson has died

Elston — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 11:05:52 GMT

Author: Elston

Posted: 06/27/2009 15:05

Didn't Michael fall in love with that kid Jordie, and they had sex with each other? I wouldn't consider him a pedophile per se. The kid was 14 and the relationship was consensual. Weird yes, but not raping a child. The guy was a total nut. Way weirder than Charles Foster Kane (who wasn't even real). A victim of fame no doubt. He definitely had a cute nose tho.

Re: Michael Jackson has died

Charicature — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 04:38:04 GMT

Author: Charicature

Posted: 06/27/2009 08:38

...and don't forget Wierd Al Yankovic: Dare To Be Stupid and Even Worse for the parodies 😉

Re: Michael Jackson has died

RFNAPLES — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 03:39:51 GMT

Author: RFNAPLES

Posted: 06/27/2009 07:39

We will hear a lot of his music the next week or two. Try these albums:

Jackson, Michael - Bad
Jackson, Michael - History: Past, Present & Future Book I
Jackson, Michael - Number Ones
Jackson, Michael - Off The Wall
Jackson, Michael - Thriller
Jackson 5 - Diana Ross Presents The Jackson 5 & ABC
Jackson 5 - The Ultimate Collection

Re: Michael Jackson has died

telefunker — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:36:53 GMT

Author: telefunker

Posted: 06/26/2009 16:36

yeah, we will probably never know all the truths of his personal life.. even if the worst rumours were true, you would have to say that he was, in that respect, a product - or victim even - of his early environment

that aside, it was well known and documented that he was heavily addicted to benzodiazepines (heavy tranquilizers) which are incredibly harmful even when taken in moderate doses and should never be taken for more than 2 weeks - he was on up to 40 pills a day for years on end.

he was also at some point addicted to demerol (morphine like painkiller) and likely various other drugs.. of course, a demerol overdose causes cardiac arrest and respiratory depression and it wouldn't surprise me if that's exactly what happened..

either way, he was 2 weeks away from re-emerging into the spotlight after supposedly recovering from those very addictions, i can't help but think that deep down in his mind, he just gave up.. like when elderly people die suddenly when they're forced with a change of envrionment.. the subconcious mind just packs it in one way or another

still, the guy doesn't have to endure a gruelling tour he never really wanted to do, he goes out with his musical reputation untarnished and a legacy which should be technically impossible to better in popular music.. the saddest thing i think is leaving his beloved kids behind and being outlived by his parents and entire family, when he was the youngest kid after all

the best thing that can come of this is that the attention exposes the new generation of kids to his music, so that they might know him for more than just a one man freak show

r.i.p

Re: Michael Jackson has died

Charicature — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:12:16 GMT

Author: Charicature

Posted: 06/26/2009 16:12

maxxy wrote:

I'll bet you anything it was a cocaine-induced heart attack.

Sounds more like prescription drugs were the issue. One story suggests he'd had an injection of a potent concentration of Demerol - and supposedly his personal physician was on the scene.

Really, I don't think people should be so hard on MJ - he was used as a meal ticket by an abusive father, then, just as he was becoming the superstar he was, his hair caught on fire filming a commercial for Pepsi and he was pretty badly burned. It was around then that he started "changing".

As for the pedophile claims...I actually don't believe them. Two claims, years apart, both accepted supposed "hush money" rather than help put a dangerous man behind bars? I don't buy it - they were simply opportunists looking to cash in on their kids' connection to Jackson and all the rampant speculation about him.

I honestly think what his problem was is that he badly needed psychological help back in the 80s, for whichever of the various reasons it could have been, but his entourage and retinue and everyone around him saw him as the means of their own financial support and thus enabled his degradation instead of seeking to get him the real help he needed.

But, really - I doubt at this point anyone will ever really know for sure what went on behind the scenes with Jackson.

Re: Michael Jackson has died

maxxy — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:24:56 GMT

Author: maxxy

Posted: 06/26/2009 12:24

I'll bet you anything it was a cocaine-induced heart attack.