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Re: Lana del Rey is.....

chisholm.matt — Wed, 31 Oct 2012 19:27:58 GMT

Author: chisholm.matt

Posted: 10/31/2012 23:27

Saoirse wrote:

I think she is a fashion icon with perhaps the world's most amazing set of lips, who has yet to prove she can produce anything more (musically speaking) than one incredible song, or perhaps putting it more accurately, one incredible presentation of a song. But

THOSE

LIPS

(swooning noise)

Wait for the next album or two and we'll see what she really does become, an artist or just an idea

Maybe she'll become an artist and remain an idea.....

Re: Lana del Rey is.....

Anonymous — Wed, 31 Oct 2012 18:55:31 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 10/31/2012 22:55

..... is a glorious thing, a diamond ring, the first day of summer. 🕺

Re: Lana del Rey is.....

Anonymous — Wed, 31 Oct 2012 18:46:00 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 10/31/2012 22:46

I think she is a fashion icon with perhaps the world's most amazing set of lips, who has yet to prove she can produce anything more (musically speaking) than one incredible song, or perhaps putting it more accurately, one incredible presentation of a song. But

THOSE

LIPS

(swooning noise)

Wait for the next album or two and we'll see what she really does become, an artist or just an idea

Re: Lana del Rey is.....

Anonymous — Wed, 31 Oct 2012 18:22:10 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 10/31/2012 22:22

chisholm.matt wrote:

And your reason is?

I just hate it. She seemed to have potential with "Video Games" and then completely ruined it. Also the rapping parts are almost as annoying as me.

Re: Lana del Rey is.....

chisholm.matt — Wed, 31 Oct 2012 18:12:24 GMT

Author: chisholm.matt

Posted: 10/31/2012 22:12

thejoj96 wrote:

2,3,and 4. Born to Die appears on my least favo(u)rite albums list.

And your reason is?

Re: Lana del Rey is.....

chisholm.matt — Wed, 31 Oct 2012 18:11:22 GMT

Author: chisholm.matt

Posted: 10/31/2012 22:11

Necharsian wrote:

Recently re-listened to Born to Die again. It's good. Nothing spectacular but good. I don't think she's a "pawn" but then again I don't think any artist is, really.

I also don't really know what overproduced is. Is there a quantifiable amount of production that is proven to be correct? It just seems like a word people use to justify not liking something (similar to pretentious)

I would qualify overproduced as any body of music that feels embellished or distractingly complex. Del Rey's voice has a simple force to it, and I think her best songs, "Blue Jeans," and "Video Games" mirror that simplicity. But other, like "Diet Mountain Dew," are really too warped in synth and new age hip-hop riffs to really stick around...

Re: Lana del Rey is.....

chisholm.matt — Wed, 31 Oct 2012 18:07:28 GMT

Author: chisholm.matt

Posted: 10/31/2012 22:07

Robert Anton Wilson wrote:

I would have voted cute.

I mean she was worth it just so I can look at the Tiger nod his head to the beat in the video of born to die. That Tiger is grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreat.

The tigers are amazing.....the opening shot of that video is heart-stopping....

Re: Lana del Rey is.....

Robert Anton Wilson — Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:39:53 GMT

Author: Robert Anton Wilson

Posted: 10/31/2012 21:39

I would have voted cute.

I mean she was worth it just so I can look at the Tiger nod his head to the beat in the video of born to die. That Tiger is grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreat.

Re: Lana del Rey is.....

Necharsian — Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:23:37 GMT

Author: Necharsian

Posted: 10/31/2012 21:23

Recently re-listened to Born to Die again. It's good. Nothing spectacular but good. I don't think she's a "pawn" but then again I don't think any artist is, really.

I also don't really know what overproduced is. Is there a quantifiable amount of production that is proven to be correct? It just seems like a word people use to justify not liking something (similar to pretentious)

Re: Lana del Rey is.....

Anonymous — Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:47:17 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 10/31/2012 20:47

2,3,and 4. Born to Die appears on my least favo(u)rite albums list.

Re: Lana del Rey is.....

Anonymous — Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:24:15 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 10/31/2012 20:24

Her debut album is a lot better than the disaster that is Born to Die. "Video Games" is great, but outside of that, every track on Born to Die sounds the same and is way to melodramatic.

Re: Lana del Rey is.....

chisholm.matt — Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:22:59 GMT

Author: chisholm.matt

Posted: 10/31/2012 20:22

purple wrote:

She's beautiful and she's got a couple of great tracks. She's not good enough for me to get behind her right now, but she's good enough that I'll be keeping on eye on her next release. She's not the pop star we need, but the pop star we deserve.

Deserve as in, "We don't deserve much..." or deserve in that, "she will one day be fabulous..."?

Re: Lana del Rey is.....

Anonymous — Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:16:39 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 10/31/2012 20:16

She's beautiful and she's got a couple of great tracks. She's not good enough for me to get behind her right now, but she's good enough that I'll be keeping on eye on her next release. She's not the pop star we need, but the pop star we deserve.

Re: Lana del Rey is.....

chisholm.matt — Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:08:28 GMT

Author: chisholm.matt

Posted: 10/31/2012 20:08

CellarDoor wrote:

...is wearing a 39.99€ H&M coat.

Ha! Well-played...I wonder how much she was paid to do that campaign?

Re: Lana del Rey is.....

chisholm.matt — Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:59:52 GMT

Author: chisholm.matt

Posted: 10/31/2012 19:59

lethalnezzle wrote:

The song I was referring to isn't out yet (apparently it'll be on Rocky's upcoming album), but that is how I will choose to remember Lana del Rey, if at all. Her album is awful, her voice average and her entire image horribly contrived. Actually, I'll probably remember her for having sexy lips. Beyond that, very little.

My point exactly....most people will remember her for sexy lips or a doomed SNL stint, but I disagree that her voice is average. I think it's surprisingly unique, and her songs are decently well written, although a bit overproduced.

Re: Lana del Rey is.....

Anonymous — Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:54:18 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 10/31/2012 19:54

chisholm.matt wrote:

Valid point, although I think Del Rey is the consummate example of how the industry can destroy talent, at least in 2012....

Or the consummate example of how a poseur can ride the hypewave, at least in 2012...

Re: Lana del Rey is.....

chisholm.matt — Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:49:57 GMT

Author: chisholm.matt

Posted: 10/31/2012 19:49

Norman Bates wrote:

Voted for "a pawn", although I don't find it quite satisfactory. Every musician who has commercial releases is a pawn of the music industry, some realize it, some don't ; some still make the music they like, others don't; etc.

That being said, I don't think Del Rey is a pawn of just the music industry either. She's a product (an H&M product these days) of her period, and as a celebrity, she's a pawn of the consumption policy in hardcore capitalism. If she can toy with the idea, she'll be fine, and if she can't, she'll be forgotten one year from now.

Valid point, although I think Del Rey is the consummate example of how the industry can destroy talent, at least in 2012....

Re: Lana del Rey is.....

Anonymous — Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:47:57 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 10/31/2012 19:47

Norman Bates wrote:

???? Er... it had absolutely nothing to do with mainstream.

On a side note, I never hated any record for being 'mainstream', whatever that may mean. I have a lot of 'mainstream' (?) records on my charts, as well as some more obscure ones.

No 😲 I said the attitude was close to it not that you were a guilty party. Looks like I am not getting the words out the right way I wanted to today.

You're opinions are too different from my own to hit the ignore button. I would rather view them than have everyone thinking like me. Chances are I could learn something from them in long run. For now though, I'll capitulate and let the topic carry on.

Re: Lana del Rey is.....

Anonymous — Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:46:28 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 10/31/2012 19:46

I don't think I know any of her songs. Is her music good?

Re: Lana del Rey is.....

Norman Bates — Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:35:02 GMT

Author: Norman Bates

Posted: 10/31/2012 19:35

an_outlaw wrote:

seems to be rearing dangerously close to "Mainstream is bad because"