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Re: CLOSED-Best Ever Novelist tournament- NOMINATIONS

Anonymous — Mon, 3 Dec 2012 21:13:09 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 12/04/2012 02:13

Im putting this tournament on hold right now, largely cuz I may have jumped the gun and am not sure how to really structure it at the moment, and some other outside ideas are kind of in limbo. I like the idea, however, of perhaps turning this into a sort of BEA book club, where we get the chance to read the novelist's work put forth and actually discuss beforehand, before the actual voting/matchups take place. Pondering a few ideas but am not ready to proceed at the moment.

Re: CLOSED-Best Ever Novelist tournament- NOMINATIONS

Facetious — Sun, 2 Dec 2012 03:36:47 GMT

Author: Facetious

Posted: 12/02/2012 08:36

purple wrote:

that was stupid

I probably shouldn't even have nominated her in the first place. I'm going through her work, but I honestly don't know enough to promote her or anything.

Re: CLOSED-Best Ever Novelist tournament- NOMINATIONS

Anonymous — Sat, 1 Dec 2012 13:29:11 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 12/01/2012 18:29

Saoirse wrote:

Okay. I'll make one more change, but from now on the nominations are set in stone (though even I want to know how serious that Jimmy Buffett nod was, and I too am sad to see Virginia Woolfe go 🙁 )

Thaaaaaaaaaaaanks.

Re: CLOSED-Best Ever Novelist tournament- NOMINATIONS

Anonymous — Sat, 1 Dec 2012 13:23:45 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 12/01/2012 18:23

Okay. I'll make one more change, but from now on the nominations are set in stone (though even I want to know how serious that Jimmy Buffett nod was, and I too am sad to see Virginia Woolfe go 🙁 )

Re: CLOSED-Best Ever Novelist tournament- NOMINATIONS

Anonymous — Sat, 1 Dec 2012 08:40:00 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 12/01/2012 13:40

purple wrote:

that was stupid

This.

Re: CLOSED-Best Ever Novelist tournament- NOMINATIONS

Anonymous — Sat, 1 Dec 2012 08:38:01 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 12/01/2012 13:38

Eggman/Walrus/Taxman wrote:

:shock: Saoirse, can I replace Virginia Woolf with Mark Twain?

that was stupid

Re: CLOSED-Best Ever Novelist tournament- NOMINATIONS

Anonymous — Sat, 1 Dec 2012 08:11:47 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 12/01/2012 13:11

Whilst everyone's making replacements, can I swap Paul Auster for James Baldwin pretty please?

And yeah, after my experience with the rapper tournament, I would certainly advise against a 128-entry tournament. It's just too much. Any, looking forward to this starting. Should be very interesting.

Re: CLOSED-Best Ever Novelist tournament- NOMINATIONS

Anonymous — Sat, 1 Dec 2012 00:29:03 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 12/01/2012 05:29

@ Defago and Eggman: No problem, will make change

@ Lethal: admittingly making it a true "best ever novelist" contest is a bit of a stretch, as this is really just a group of BEA users picking their favorites, and hopefully helping the bookish BEA crowd find some new favorite authors in the process. Perhaps Im just not quite up to running a 128-candidate tournament right now, but I like this nice sample size we have here and already am discovering some new names I probably wouldn't have come across otherwise, so Im keeping it at 64 now even if several favorites and extremely important novelists aren't to be found in this lot.

@ Norman: yeah I when I decided on this tournament I knew it wouldn't be easy, and one thing I may have underestimated would be the potential language barrier this tournament may have, as we've all read these books in different languages and may make it tougher individualy to promote your works in a universal sense. However, you also don't have to promote strictly by posting excerpts; if anything the whole point is to get creative in how you "hype" and make the case for your favorite writers, whichever way you feel strongest in helping your novelist to victory. Im glad you're involved and don't want to see you lose interest in the tournament... especially with some new ideas on the horizon it's sure to get even more interesting.

Re: CLOSED-Best Ever Novelist tournament- NOMINATIONS

Facetious — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 23:38:43 GMT

Author: Facetious

Posted: 12/01/2012 04:38

lethalnezzle wrote:

TBH, you could write a load of gibberish in defence of your authors and I'd still vote for them ahead of Jimmy Buffett. How he got nominated when the likes of James Baldwin, F. Scott Fitzgerald, Mark Twain, Graham Greene, John Steinbeck, Gabriel Garcia Marquez etc. got overlooked is beyond me.

😲 Saoirse, can I replace Virginia Woolf with Mark Twain?

Re: CLOSED-Best Ever Novelist tournament- NOMINATIONS

Defago — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 16:54:52 GMT

Author: Defago

Posted: 11/30/2012 21:54

Damn, forgot about Gabriel Garcia Marquez. Any chances of changing my nominations, or are they fixed already? No biggie if it's already set...

EDIT: Orson Scott Card for GGM, if it's possible.

Re: CLOSED-Best Ever Novelist tournament- NOMINATIONS

Anonymous — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 16:40:30 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 11/30/2012 21:40

Norman Bates wrote:

I have an issue with the tourney. Is it OK to try and defend an author without quoting the book? I'll have the utmost difficulty quoting the books I'll be defending, as:
- I don't own them in English;
- I am not good enough a translator to try and translate the copies in French I own;
- it's no use quoting them in French, 3 people will understand.
All of a sudden, the matches are getting a bit more difficult for me. I'll probably have a go at defending them anyway, but it's terribly complicated to talk about style if you can't quote the works...

Or maybe I should quit, considering I won't be able to defend the books properly, or at least not as efficiently as any opponent I might have to fight? I'm OK with quitting and leaving my seat to somebody else, if that's what it takes.

I was simply presenting what I believe I might be doing to promote authors, especially to those who might not have read some of the novels that I'll be presenting. I see it as perfectly acceptable not to include quotes. The only reason for promotion is to convince voters who have not read what you are presenting.

Personally, when I see your four picks, you won't have to do much promotion for Balzac or Dostoyevsky. In fact, I will likely vote for Dostoyevsky automatically over most authors, including my own picks of Melville and Stein; The Idiot, Demons, and Brothers Karamazov are among the greatest literary works ever produced in my book. I think my greatest literary crush, after Jane Eyre, is Aglaia.

Re: CLOSED-Best Ever Novelist tournament- NOMINATIONS

Anonymous — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 14:59:10 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 11/30/2012 19:59

Happymeal wrote:

Lol. I nominated Jimmy Buffett as a joke. He'll probably get eliminated quickly, but still margaritaville

I got that it was a joke. I wasn't so much moaning at the Buffett nomination as at the significant authors missing from the competition. Either way, I'm looking forward to it - it's just that there were some bizarre omissions in the nomination process. I mean, it's my fault as much as anyone else's for not nominating them, but I guess I figured that they were shoo-ins and thus nominated authors who were less likely to be nominated by someone else. Ho hum.

Re: CLOSED-Best Ever Novelist tournament- NOMINATIONS

Anonymous — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 14:48:01 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 11/30/2012 19:48

lethalnezzle wrote:

Lol. I nominated Jimmy Buffett as a joke. He'll probably get eliminated quickly, but still margaritaville

Re: CLOSED-Best Ever Novelist tournament- NOMINATIONS

Anonymous — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 14:40:40 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 11/30/2012 19:40

Norman Bates wrote:

Re: CLOSED-Best Ever Novelist tournament- NOMINATIONS

Norman Bates — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 14:30:44 GMT

Author: Norman Bates

Posted: 11/30/2012 19:30

I have an issue with the tourney. Is it OK to try and defend an author without quoting the book? I'll have the utmost difficulty quoting the books I'll be defending, as:
- I don't own them in English;
- I am not good enough a translator to try and translate the copies in French I own;
- it's no use quoting them in French, 3 people will understand.
All of a sudden, the matches are getting a bit more difficult for me. I'll probably have a go at defending them anyway, but it's terribly complicated to talk about style if you can't quote the works...

Or maybe I should quit, considering I won't be able to defend the books properly, or at least not as efficiently as any opponent I might have to fight? I'm OK with quitting and leaving my seat to somebody else, if that's what it takes.

Re: CLOSED-Best Ever Novelist tournament- NOMINATIONS

alelsupreme — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 13:03:23 GMT

Author: alelsupreme

Posted: 11/30/2012 18:03

CellarDoor wrote:

It will definitely interest the BEAlluminati.

ssshh, there's no such thing.

Re: CLOSED-Best Ever Novelist tournament- NOMINATIONS

CellarDoor — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 12:44:27 GMT

Author: CellarDoor

Posted: 11/30/2012 17:44

Robert Anton Wilson wrote:

Everybody start reading the Illuminatus! Trilogy

It will definitely interest the BEAlluminati.

Re: CLOSED-Best Ever Novelist tournament- NOMINATIONS

Robert Anton Wilson — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 11:56:54 GMT

Author: Robert Anton Wilson

Posted: 11/30/2012 16:56

Everybody start reading the Illuminatus! Trilogy before they immanentize the eschaton on your parade

http://www.rawilson.com/illuminatus.html

http://www.deepleafaudio.com/illuminatus.htm

The whole thing free ... if you don't feel bad about forcing me to go eating Kraft dinner at such an advanced age ...

http://www.american-buddha.com/illuminatus!.toc.htm
http://www.pauladaunt.com/books/Illumin...lluminatus!%20Tril.html
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/illuminatus_trilogy.pdf

Re: CLOSED-Best Ever Novelist tournament- NOMINATIONS

Anonymous — Thu, 29 Nov 2012 20:10:23 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 11/30/2012 01:10

Allright, a little update: One very helpful BEA member has offered to assist me in the tourney, so to keep themself impartial, they asked for their nominations to be removed. So I wont do the play-in round I originally planned, though that does mean I have to retract the very last nod I entered (sorry, Danielle Steel). So it looks like the tourney may be a bit different than the one that was vaguely planned, but it's sure to be very exciting. Im going to start a rules thread after I have all the details of the new plan set.

Im thinking of not starting the tournament for a little bit, not only to give time to structure the whole thing but also in hopes that some of the tournament's participant might try and catch up on a few nominated authors they aren't familiar with... there is indeed a goal in this tournament to help widen someone's reading reportoire by introducing to them to authors they previously haven't come across, and Ive already been busy on my library and amazon account trying to get a hold of some of these personally hitherto unknown novelists, and hopefully many of those getting involved in the tournament will find a new favorite author by the time it's done.

Re: CLOSED-Best Ever Novelist tournament- NOMINATIONS

Anonymous — Wed, 28 Nov 2012 18:04:34 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 11/28/2012 23:04

lol books
I read one once, it was okay