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Re: Repetition in music.

Anonymous — Tue, 4 Dec 2012 13:39:08 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 12/04/2012 18:39

Depends how good the melody or hook is.

Something like the synth break-down in Pyramids by Frank Oceans should repeat more often. Twice in a 9 minutes song does not satisfy.

Re: Repetition in music.

Anonymous — Tue, 4 Dec 2012 07:25:44 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 12/04/2012 12:25

DJ Premier's beats are all about repetition and he's the greatest hip-hop producer of all time.

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Re: Repetition in music.

Anonymous — Tue, 4 Dec 2012 02:59:43 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 12/04/2012 07:59

Repetition is okay if SOME of the elements are changed. For example, it drives me crazy when a band just repeats the same chorus over and over without changing the instrumentation, the tone, the tempo, etc. Now, if a band wants to use the same lyrics over and over again, they can be my guest, but some things need to be changed. Like, I literally want to shoot a puppy when the second chorus comes up and it's LITERALLY indistinct from the first chorus. I mean, what's the point? If you are so uncreative that you can't come up with a way to rework the second chorus, then at least have the creativity to restructure your song so it doesn't need a second chorus.

This is why repetitive albums such as Rubber Soul are garbage whereas repetitive albums such as Nevermind are masterpieces.

Re: Repetition in music.

Defago — Mon, 3 Dec 2012 21:34:57 GMT

Author: Defago

Posted: 12/04/2012 02:34

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Re: Repetition in music.

Anonymous — Mon, 3 Dec 2012 21:16:16 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 12/04/2012 02:16

Happymeal wrote:

I think repetition works well in the album Masturbate in the praise of black satan.

I think it does too.

Re: Repetition in music.

Anonymous — Mon, 3 Dec 2012 21:14:52 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 12/04/2012 02:14

I think repetition works well in the album Masturbate in the praise of black satan.

Re: Repetition in music.

Jasonconfused — Mon, 3 Dec 2012 21:04:10 GMT

Author: Jasonconfused

Posted: 12/04/2012 02:04

Works extremely well in Zeppelin's Misty Mountain Hop.

Re: Repetition in music.

bongritsu — Mon, 3 Dec 2012 16:55:00 GMT

Author: bongritsu

Posted: 12/03/2012 21:55

Absolutely love repetition in music. Dark ambient music has taught me to love it.

Also i really like repetition in musical themes like Hazards of Love by Decemberists

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this song instantly came to mind when i saw this thread, one of my favorite uses of repetition lyrically wise. To dang beautiful.

Nujabes come to mind as well

Re: Repetition in music.

bcaie16 — Mon, 3 Dec 2012 16:38:36 GMT

Author: bcaie16

Posted: 12/03/2012 21:38

SquishypuffDave wrote:

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I think this loop is beautiful, but an hour of it is a bit much, even with the added interest of the loop slowly disintegrating over time. I think I could happily listen to about 10 minutes of this before I'd want it to move on to something else. What's your mileage? 5 minutes? 20 minutes? 30 seconds?

With Basinski, it's not something that is meant to be enjoyed very often. I can listen to that loop once every few months, find it incredibly enjoyable, and put it away. Always found it very thought provoking though.

As for the repetition thing, I think it varies a lot depending on the artist. Some can throw away great hooks after barely utilizing them (The Unicorns album Who Will Cut Our Hair When We Are Gone comes to mind), others can build a song off a very simple idea. I guess execution is the only important thing.

Re: Repetition in music.

Anonymous — Mon, 3 Dec 2012 10:54:03 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 12/03/2012 15:54

I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. 😜

It's what makes the music after all. Keeping something going on repeat and playing it agian later in the song. Unless we are talking about playing the same continual loop for 5 minutes, then it is most definitely a good thing. It's what makes the music after all. 😜

Re: Repetition in music.

Anonymous — Mon, 3 Dec 2012 10:38:29 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 12/03/2012 15:38

Repetition, done well, is one of the best weapons in an artist's arsenal. Done badly it can be horrible.

Re: Repetition in music.

Robert Anton Wilson — Mon, 3 Dec 2012 10:36:05 GMT

Author: Robert Anton Wilson

Posted: 12/03/2012 15:36

The Beach Boys opened up a can of worms with Good Virbrations going over 3 mins. Sometimes a song deserves to be how long it is (e.g. A Day in the Life by The Beatles), sometimes a song is made longer just to fit commercial/radio format and that is where most of the songs too long criticisms come from.

Or course I do recognize that if you do not like a song then it is an easy criticism, but my point is that a lot of easy cheesy pop songs I sometimes feel are entertaining and I would not "dislike" them even if I am not a pop guy at all but usually by the time the song ends on first listen i feel i have already listened to it 3 times with the 2nd and 4rd time being merely a repeat of the catchy bit. If artists would recognize the music they are doing for what they are doing and record it to the length it should be rather than ending editing it to format, there would less hate for pop music out there (less but not none of course).

p.s. BTW, this was not a criticism of Good Vibrations, this song is not too long or repetitive, but int he history of music, it is the pop success the opened the door to this sort of nonsense.

Re: Repetition in music.

Romanelli — Mon, 3 Dec 2012 09:19:44 GMT

Author: Romanelli

Posted: 12/03/2012 14:19

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Jeff Buckley covers Alex Chilton's "Kangaroo".

The last nine minutes are some of the most excruciating in music.

Re: Repetition in music.

rock socket — Mon, 3 Dec 2012 09:13:16 GMT

Author: rock socket

Posted: 12/03/2012 14:13

davidhuret wrote:

"Stop this train" is on Joy of a toy, his solo debut.

Right my mistake ,the've been re-issued Joy of a toy and Shooting for the moon as a double album

Re: Repetition in music.

rock socket — Mon, 3 Dec 2012 09:12:19 GMT

Author: rock socket

Posted: 12/03/2012 14:12

SquishypuffDave wrote:

This is one of the strangest comments I've ever read. Thank you. Thank you for giving me this experience.

English not native hence the mis writing

There're a bunch of smart asses here

Re: Repetition in music.

rock socket — Mon, 3 Dec 2012 09:10:31 GMT

Author: rock socket

Posted: 12/03/2012 14:10

purple wrote:

:lol: I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul.

let me refrais that

My first experience with the repetitive thing was with the Soft machine

I dont need mercy and especially not from God

Re: Repetition in music.

SquishypuffDave — Mon, 3 Dec 2012 08:53:13 GMT

Author: SquishypuffDave

Posted: 12/03/2012 13:53

rock socket wrote:

To my knowledge one of the first bands that started repetition in their songs is Soft Machine

This is one of the strangest comments I've ever read. Thank you. Thank you for giving me this experience.

Re: Repetition in music.

davidhuret — Mon, 3 Dec 2012 08:31:24 GMT

Author: davidhuret

Posted: 12/03/2012 13:31

Oh and his last album to date is 2007's [i]the unfairground[/i].

Check it out, it's lovely and worthy of his 1970s ouput.

Re: Repetition in music.

davidhuret — Mon, 3 Dec 2012 08:30:01 GMT

Author: davidhuret

Posted: 12/03/2012 13:30

[quote="rock socket"]To my knowledge one of the first bands that started repetition in their songs is Soft Machine
After split up Kevin Ayers did the same on his solo albums , one of the finest examples is

Stop this train and let me out last track on the Shooting for the Moon album (with lady Rachel as small hit on it)

Ayers did it on almost every album he made except from Sweet Deceiver, I like him a lot dont know if he still produces music

His best album is Bananamour, check it out[/quote]

"Stop this train" is on [i]Joy of a toy[/i], his solo debut.

Re: Repetition in music.

Anonymous — Mon, 3 Dec 2012 08:12:45 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 12/03/2012 13:12

rock socket wrote:

To my knowledge one of the first bands that started repetition in their songs is Soft Machine

🤣 I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul.