Best Ever Albums

Re: Kanye West

Anonymous — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:00:15 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 01/20/2013 18:00

lethalnezzle wrote:

You're probably right, but there are only so many hours in the day. I'd rather spend my time endlessly, often incorrectly and often unnecessarily changing the info on album pages in the ego-boosting pursuit of mod points.

Anyway, I'm not the world's biggest Kanye fan so it's not really for me to say. He's a great producer who helped to usher in that chipmunk soul sound on Jay-Z's The Blueprint, Common's BE, Talib Kweli's Quality and his own College Dropout. He has subsequently and noticeably progressed to the point where he now, when focused, makes great beats pooled from a variety of influences and has largely helped to shape the soundscape of modern pop, hip-hop and R'n'B (although the influence of Pharrell Williams and Timbaland, amongst others, can't be overstated either). Rapping-wise, he's not the most technically gifted, but he's not the worst rapper around by a long shot. When on form, as in the lyrics DLGGLD quoted above, he can be an astute and often funny social commentator, and he's as good at bragging about his lifestyle as anyone (barring perhaps his mentor Jay-Z). I find his lyrics often have a cringeworthy quality, but those imperfections also help to give his lyrics a sincerity that more technically able rappers spend years trying to achieve, more often than not in vain. He's also a good songwriter in the sense that he composes songs with catchy choruses and verses that relate to the theme of the song. Again, plenty of rappers who may appear great are not necessarily very good at crafting songs, and it is songs that hold universal appeal, not well constructed sixteen bar verses (2Pac is another example of a rapper who was great at writing songs, but not supremely gifted when it came to the art of rapping). Hopefully all of that makes some sort of sense, and helps to give a window into why so many people are transfixed with the work of Kanye West.

Re: Kanye West

Anonymous — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 12:56:15 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 01/20/2013 17:56

Romanelli wrote:

5) The OP asked a really good question. If I was someone who was into hip hop, I'd have tried to give him better answers than what he's gotten.

Re: Kanye West

GeevyDallas — Sun, 13 Jan 2013 18:21:54 GMT

Author: GeevyDallas

Posted: 01/13/2013 23:21

"We shine because they hate us, floss cause they degrade us
We trying to buy back our 40 acres
And for that paper, look how low we a stoop
Even if you in a Benz, you still a nigga in a coupe"

"I had a dream I could buy my way to heaven
When I awoke, I spent that on a necklace"

Kanye is a don,don't fuck with him.

Re: Kanye West

ptaylor1989 — Sun, 13 Jan 2013 18:13:04 GMT

Author: ptaylor1989

Posted: 01/13/2013 23:13

Romanelli wrote:

After reading through this thread:

4) Hip hop is more about production than anything else. More than any other type of music.

This. The producers behind each rap song are the ones with taste and discernment. Figuring out their samples and who they pay homage to is a blast.

Kanye sucks but he makes fun music to listen to.

Re: Kanye West

Romanelli — Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:07:37 GMT

Author: Romanelli

Posted: 01/13/2013 21:07

After reading through this thread:

1) The mentality of "if you don't like a certain type of music, then don't try to like it" is wrong if you are saying it generally. I say this because, as I have stated here before, I've had a hard time with hip hop over the years. I keep my mind open to it (this site has helped a lot). I'm not there yet, but my appereciation is slowly growing. For example, I would have never given an album like 36 Chambers any kind of chance and would have had a closed mind about it just a year ago. I just listened to it a few days ago and dug the SHIT out of it.

2) Assuming that those around you are closed minded is pretty closed minded.

3) Anyone on this site calling anyone a snob is kinda laughable, don't you think?

4) Hip hop is more about production than anything else. More than any other type of music.

5) The OP asked a really good question. If I was someone who was into hip hop, I'd have tried to give him better answers than what he's gotten.

Re: Kanye West

tbakeman — Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:43:19 GMT

Author: tbakeman

Posted: 01/13/2013 20:43

I think Kanye's just popular because he's a jack-ass. The President said so as well. I'm no fan by any means.

Re: Kanye West

Anonymous — Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:13:46 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 01/13/2013 20:13

After listening to a fair bit more rap, I've come to the conclusion Kayne is actually very average at rapping and has poor flow.

Production is mint though.

Re: Kanye West

Anonymous — Thu, 27 Dec 2012 11:45:08 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 12/27/2012 16:45

Necharsian wrote:

Have you ever had sex with a pharaoh?

I put the pussy in a Necharsianophagus.

Re: Kanye West

Necharsian — Thu, 27 Dec 2012 02:50:27 GMT

Author: Necharsian

Posted: 12/27/2012 07:50

Have you ever had sex with a pharaoh?

Re: Kanye West

Anonymous — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 08:03:40 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 12/26/2012 13:03

rock n roll took a crap and they called it rap

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Re: Kanye West

Anonymous — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 12:09:00 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 12/25/2012 17:09

If you want to hear some bad, uninspiring rap, tune into BBC 1Xtra.
There's some decent stuff on it now and then, but the rest just relies solely on the fact that a lot of people listen to make because it makes them feel wit da keeds.

Re: Kanye West

Anonymous — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 03:39:32 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 12/25/2012 08:39

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Re: Kanye West

Anonymous — Mon, 24 Dec 2012 22:09:50 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 12/25/2012 03:09

If Kanye had more songs that had an interesting sound like "Power", I'd actually like him.

Re: Kanye West

HigherThanTheSun — Mon, 24 Dec 2012 11:16:49 GMT

Author: HigherThanTheSun

Posted: 12/24/2012 16:16

Well I'm not sure which "dime-a-dozen" rappers you are talking about to be honest, there's plenty of diversity in hip hop right now.

Kanye makes tunes which are very easy for anyone to get into, like I say he's accessible. That and his songs are quality that's why people like him/ his music.

Re: Kanye West

AlexZangari — Sun, 23 Dec 2012 23:16:07 GMT

Author: AlexZangari

Posted: 12/24/2012 04:16

Okay once again: I'm not judging the genre based on its mainstream face; I'm talking about those particular artists separately.

Re: Kanye West

HigherThanTheSun — Sat, 22 Dec 2012 23:40:18 GMT

Author: HigherThanTheSun

Posted: 12/23/2012 04:40

AlexZangari wrote:

My bad, that's not how I meant it. I was talking about the particular onslaught of same-sounding popular rappers that stick to conventions and jump aboard all the lastest trends. Basically the stuff you'd hear a lot on the radio.

Yeah but if you judge a genre based on what you hear on Radio 1 you're hardly going to think it's great are you. Yeah there's some shit out there (Pitbull lol) but Kanye is a cut above that and it should be obvious to hear. Anyway if you don't like him that's cool but he is pretty fucking good IMO.

Re: Kanye West

Hayden — Sat, 22 Dec 2012 11:08:20 GMT

Author: Hayden

Posted: 12/22/2012 16:08

lethalnezzle wrote:

Don't listen to the radio, it's shit. Listen to Roc Marciano instead.

I just downloaded Reloaded. Pumped to listen to it.

Re: Kanye West

sageamagoo — Sat, 22 Dec 2012 07:50:03 GMT

Author: sageamagoo

Posted: 12/22/2012 12:50

I liked Late Registration a lot. Heard 'em say, Drive Slow, Bring Me Down, Diamonds From Sierra Leone, We Major, and Hey Mama are all pretty sweet! And I would hardly call it your every-day rap... there's so much variation in the instruments and a great atmosphere...

And it's not like I'm a big rap fan either. I love Demon Days, which had some rap on it, but that's about it. Try listening to some of these, and if you don't like them, that's your opinion. Stick to the music you enjoy, and I'll stick to mine.

Re: Kanye West

Anonymous — Sat, 22 Dec 2012 03:38:05 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 12/22/2012 08:38

AlexZangari wrote:

Don't listen to the radio, it's shit. Listen to Roc Marciano instead.

Re: Kanye West

AlexZangari — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:07:03 GMT

Author: AlexZangari

Posted: 12/21/2012 21:07

HigherThanTheSun wrote:

If you think all rap music nowadays sounds the same then you're not exactly an authority on who's good and who's not.