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Re: Do The Beatles Deserve to be the top band on BEA ?

Anonymous — Tue, 13 Aug 2013 01:33:03 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 08/13/2013 05:33

Facetious wrote:

Personally I think that's an exaggeration, and to say that would be ignoring that the Beatles themselves took a lot from other bands.

Absolutely. Off the top of my head...

Roy Orbison - toured with him, Please Please Me was an imitation of his style
Bob Dylan - John's lyrics were hugely influenced by Dylan
The Who - Helter Skelter was a response to the Who
The Beach Boys - influenced Sgt. Pepper, also the vocal harmonies in their later music
The Shirelles - covered a lot of their songs
Buddy Holly - covered his work, including even obscure B-sides
Carl Perkins - George's biggest early guitar influence
Elvis - duh
Little Richard - McCartney loved his falsetto

The OK Go quote was probably intentionally hyperbolic, but still... the Beatles were a product of their environment just like any other artist. The difference between them and, say, Elvis, is that they remain eminently listenable 50 years later -- by critics, music lovers, and just about anyone. They have their detractors, of course, but I'm sure Mozart does too.

Re: Do The Beatles Deserve to be the top band on BEA ?

Facetious — Tue, 13 Aug 2013 00:57:40 GMT

Author: Facetious

Posted: 08/13/2013 04:57

benpaco wrote:

As OK Go once put it, (I can't find the direct quote so sorry for paraphrasing): Everyone stole from the Beatles. All of us. Even the bands from before the Beatles, they stole something from the Beatles, they just didn't know it.

(If anyone can find the real quote, it was in VH1's top musicians of all time list ... where the Beatles were also ranked #1)

The OK Go quote is "The #1 artist should be The Beatles because everybody else on this list took everything they got from The Beatles, even people that came before them." He's not the only one who says something like that though in the video:
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Personally I think that's an exaggeration, and to say that would be ignoring that the Beatles themselves took a lot from other bands. I'd say they were diverse enough and tried so many styles that there are bound to be shades of a lot of bands' work before and after them in at least some of their songs, but then again it's not necessary that every band making music in a certain genre was influenced by the Beatles and what they did in that genre. Did Ob-La-Di Ob-La-Da influence every reggae artist after it was released? Did Helter Skelter do much that wasn't being done by other bands too? And the "people that came before them" part doesn't even make sense. What is that supposed to mean, that, for example, early concept albums like In the Wee Small Hours and Freak Out were actually influenced by Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band before it was even released?

Re: Do The Beatles Deserve to be the top band on BEA ?

benpaco — Mon, 12 Aug 2013 22:01:13 GMT

Author: benpaco

Posted: 08/13/2013 02:01

Happymeal wrote:

Yeah, but you wouldn't have the beatles without people like Woody Gunthrie, you don't see them being number 1

Re: Do The Beatles Deserve to be the top band on BEA ?

Mr.Music — Mon, 12 Aug 2013 07:42:43 GMT

Author: Mr.Music

Posted: 08/12/2013 11:42

Velvet Underground

Re: Do The Beatles Deserve to be the top band on BEA ?

Facetious — Mon, 12 Aug 2013 04:27:38 GMT

Author: Facetious

Posted: 08/12/2013 08:27

Listmeister wrote:

"The Beatles were arguably the last band that everyone from Leonard Bernstein to school children embraced. Theirs is the final, great consensus in popular music--not liking them is as perverse as not liking the sun."
--Paul Evans, Rolling Stone Album Guide (1992 edition) p. 43

Actually I like the Beatles more than I like the sun.

Re: Do The Beatles Deserve to be the top band on BEA ?

Anonymous — Sun, 11 Aug 2013 00:11:45 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 08/11/2013 04:11

nf0603 wrote:

I'm not in the group who thinks music began and ended with them, but if they don't deserve #1, who does?

Radiohead are great but I don't think they have the universal appeal for #1

Modest Mouse should be number 1 cause they're the best band ever to exist.

Re: Do The Beatles Deserve to be the top band on BEA ?

Mercury — Sat, 10 Aug 2013 23:31:22 GMT

Author: Mercury

Posted: 08/11/2013 03:31

�'� yes, they should be #1 �'�

They aren't my all time fave... But they are AMAZING.

Re: Do The Beatles Deserve to be the top band on BEA ?

Anonymous — Sat, 10 Aug 2013 17:26:52 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 08/10/2013 21:26

nf0603 wrote:

I'm not in the group who thinks music began and ended with them, but if they don't deserve #1, who does?

Radiohead are great but I don't think they have the universal appeal for #1

Best to keep them for sake of argument? 🤔

Re: Do The Beatles Deserve to be the top band on BEA ?

nf0603 — Wed, 7 Aug 2013 14:56:57 GMT

Author: nf0603

Posted: 08/07/2013 18:56

I'm not in the group who thinks music began and ended with them, but if they don't deserve #1, who does?

Radiohead are great but I don't think they have the universal appeal for #1

Re: Do The Beatles Deserve to be the top band on BEA ?

jonasbrother4 — Wed, 7 Aug 2013 08:05:46 GMT

Author: jonasbrother4

Posted: 08/07/2013 12:05

lethalnezzle wrote:

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Re: Do The Beatles Deserve to be the top band on BEA ?

Anonymous — Wed, 7 Aug 2013 06:26:22 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 08/07/2013 10:26

Jasonconfused wrote:

Can someone please ban kidA/thursdayeno again?

Re: Do The Beatles Deserve to be the top band on BEA ?

them — Wed, 7 Aug 2013 01:40:34 GMT

Author: them

Posted: 08/07/2013 05:40

jonasbrother4 wrote:

because i got banned because of naples' spamming the album of the day threads

Just as you are doing on this thread.

Re: Do The Beatles Deserve to be the top band on BEA ?

jonasbrother4 — Wed, 7 Aug 2013 01:26:37 GMT

Author: jonasbrother4

Posted: 08/07/2013 05:26

Jasonconfused wrote:

Can someone please ban kidA/thursdayeno again? Dude, why won't you just accept your ban and stay away?

because i got banned because of naples' spamming the album of the day threads

Re: Do The Beatles Deserve to be the top band on BEA ?

jonasbrother4 — Wed, 7 Aug 2013 01:26:14 GMT

Author: jonasbrother4

Posted: 08/07/2013 05:26

Jasonconfused wrote:

Can someone please ban kidA/thursdayeno again? Dude, why won't you just accept your ban and stay away?

because i got banned because of naples' spamming the album of the day threads

Re: Do The Beatles Deserve to be the top band on BEA ?

SingingPeasant96 — Wed, 7 Aug 2013 01:11:56 GMT

Author: SingingPeasant96

Posted: 08/07/2013 05:11

No

Re: Do The Beatles Deserve to be the top band on BEA ?

Jasonconfused — Wed, 7 Aug 2013 01:10:03 GMT

Author: Jasonconfused

Posted: 08/07/2013 05:10

jonasbrother4 wrote:

the beatles aren't the best band ever and you are not only saying they are but nobody will ever be as good as them.

i think that radiohead clowns everyone except for sigur ros but even i wouldn't actually say that nobody will ever be better than them {unless i already have and if i did i was joking}.

it is easy to see that you aren't joking and you think that because they were the first best band ever that that means they will always be the best band ever

you have it backwards, change your name to backwards

Can someone please ban kidA/thursdayeno again? Dude, why won't you just accept your ban and stay away?

Re: Do The Beatles Deserve to be the top band on BEA ?

jonasbrother4 — Wed, 7 Aug 2013 00:58:36 GMT

Author: jonasbrother4

Posted: 08/07/2013 04:58

Re: Do The Beatles Deserve to be the top band on BEA ?

jonasbrother4 — Wed, 7 Aug 2013 00:58:15 GMT

Author: jonasbrother4

Posted: 08/07/2013 04:58

the beatles aren't the best band ever and you are not only saying they are but nobody will ever be as good as them.

i think that radiohead clowns everyone except for sigur ros but even i wouldn't actually say that nobody will ever be better than them {unless i already have and if i did i was joking}.

it is easy to see that you aren't joking and you think that because they were the first best band ever that that means they will always be the best band ever

you have it backwards, change your name to backwards

Re: Do The Beatles Deserve to be the top band on BEA ?

them — Wed, 7 Aug 2013 00:02:34 GMT

Author: them

Posted: 08/07/2013 04:02

jonasbrother4 wrote:

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And your point is?

Re: Do The Beatles Deserve to be the top band on BEA ?

jonasbrother4 — Tue, 6 Aug 2013 23:59:10 GMT

Author: jonasbrother4

Posted: 08/07/2013 03:59

them wrote:

Yes and most likely forever will.

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