Best Ever Albums

Re: The Grunge Thread

Cymro2011 — Sun, 19 May 2013 15:01:24 GMT

Author: Cymro2011

Posted: 05/19/2013 19:01

You know earlier on when you were all talking about Dinosaur Jr being an influence to Grunge?

I've just remembered about Flipper - Generic Flipper it sounds grungy as hell.

Re: The Grunge Thread

Anonymous — Sun, 19 May 2013 13:45:08 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 05/19/2013 17:45

I got done with Apple by Mother Love Bone, even though I couldn't find a track on YT. Now I'm listening to a good grunge band which I don't think anyone here's mentioned yet: Skin Yard. Heavier than the average grunge. The album is 1000 Smiling Knuckles. I'll let you know what I think.

Re: The Grunge Thread

Anonymous — Sat, 18 May 2013 22:15:14 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 05/19/2013 02:15

JMan wrote:

I wouldn't trust RYM on that. Their best grunge albums chart determined by the usersw includes LZ4, Ramones albums, Fleetwood Mac, Pixies, and Pink Floyd. Pink freaking Floyd!

The one you posted earlier wasn't even their grunge chart Jman. If you click on charts, then you can pick any genre you like to look for the "best of" if you go to the bar next to "only include genres" (they have other options at that point too). The "chart" you looked at was the best rated by those users, not a grunge chart.

Re: The Grunge Thread

Anonymous — Sat, 18 May 2013 21:52:31 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 05/19/2013 01:52

Happymeal wrote:

Well, to be fair, you could call Dinosaur Jr. grunge and you wouldn't be too far out of the ball park. They're close enough that calling them grunge isn't too bad, though obviously they fit into other genres much better.

EDIT: Also, RYM has grunge listed as one of their genres (not their main one obviously) http://rateyourmusic.com/artist/dinosaur_jr_

And no, it's not prominent, but it isn't too far off.

I wouldn't trust RYM on that. Their best grunge albums chart determined by the usersw includes LZ4, Ramones albums, Fleetwood Mac, Pixies, and Pink Floyd. Pink freaking Floyd!

Re: The Grunge Thread

Cymro2011 — Sat, 18 May 2013 19:35:12 GMT

Author: Cymro2011

Posted: 05/18/2013 23:35

meccalecca wrote:

genres and subgenres are silly indefinable things that cannot pin down a group. They're just tools created by music critics to group bands together.

just like how we lump hundreds of years of music into "classical" despite a ridiculous range of ideas and sounds

sigh genres are frustrating.

Re: The Grunge Thread

meccalecca — Sat, 18 May 2013 19:14:55 GMT

Author: meccalecca

Posted: 05/18/2013 23:14

Cymro2011 wrote:

Sonic youth? I thought they were noise rock?

Re: The Grunge Thread

Cymro2011 — Sat, 18 May 2013 19:08:59 GMT

Author: Cymro2011

Posted: 05/18/2013 23:08

meccalecca wrote:

Since you have The Smiths ranked #1, you may wanna take that back, since they could definitely be considered post-punk.

The Cure, Sonic Youth, Wire, Gang Of Four, Magazine, Crime & The City Solution, The Birthday Party, Echo & The Bunymen...etc all great post-punk bands.

Sonic youth? I thought they were noise rock?

Re: The Grunge Thread

meccalecca — Sat, 18 May 2013 19:05:47 GMT

Author: meccalecca

Posted: 05/18/2013 23:05

CDQ wrote:

If Joy Division is the best of post-punk, I feel comfortable saying that post-punk is a completely awful genre.

Re: The Grunge Thread

Anonymous — Sat, 18 May 2013 18:27:27 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 05/18/2013 22:27

CDQ wrote:

Thanks for the recommendations! I will! That's why I said "if" they were the best, which I refuse to believe because Joy Division can't be the best of anything, since they are so bad.

I'd highly recommend Affinità-Divergenze fra il Compagno Togliatti e Noi – Del Conseguimento della Maggiore Età by CCCP Fedeli alla linea as far as post - punk goes (I completely forgot about this album until this came up). Some very nice stuff.

You can find the album on groovershark (though you'll have to copy/paste the album's name into the search bar as the artist's page doesn't have the correct one).

Re: The Grunge Thread

MrFrogger — Sat, 18 May 2013 18:15:11 GMT

Author: MrFrogger

Posted: 05/18/2013 22:15

CDQ wrote:

Thanks for the recommendations! I will! That's why I said "if" they were the best, which I refuse to believe because Joy Division can't be the best of anything since they are so bad.

I would actually recommend you look at the bands nominated for the Post Punk/New Wave tourney, and if anything seems interesting to you, try them out.

Them being said I love Joy Division, they are just a polarizing band.

Re: The Grunge Thread

Cymro2011 — Sat, 18 May 2013 18:14:26 GMT

Author: Cymro2011

Posted: 05/18/2013 22:14

Happymeal wrote:

Trust me, they are no where near the best. Joy Division is horrid.

Also this,I never saw the appeal of Joy Division.

Re: The Grunge Thread

Anonymous — Sat, 18 May 2013 18:13:24 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 05/18/2013 22:13

Cymro2011 wrote:

Whoah now, listen to Minutemen and The Fall then cme back and say that.

Thanks for the recommendations! I will! That's why I said "if" they were the best, which I refuse to believe because Joy Division can't be the best of anything, since they are so bad.

Re: The Grunge Thread

Necharsian — Sat, 18 May 2013 18:13:03 GMT

Author: Necharsian

Posted: 05/18/2013 22:13

CDQ wrote:

If Joy Division is the best of post-punk, I feel comfortable saying that post-punk is a completely awful genre.

because just like shoegaze and loveless, all post punk bands sound exactly like joy division and delving deeper into either genre is pretty much a waste of time

Re: The Grunge Thread

Anonymous — Sat, 18 May 2013 18:12:56 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 05/18/2013 22:12

CDQ wrote:

If Joy Division is the best of post-punk, I feel comfortable saying that post-punk is a completely awful genre.

Trust me, they are no where near the best. Joy Division is horrid.

Re: The Grunge Thread

Cymro2011 — Sat, 18 May 2013 18:11:54 GMT

Author: Cymro2011

Posted: 05/18/2013 22:11

CDQ wrote:

If Joy Division is the best of post-punk, I feel comfortable saying that post-punk is a completely awful genre.

Whoah now, listen to Minutemen and The Fall then come back and say that.

Re: The Grunge Thread

Anonymous — Sat, 18 May 2013 18:09:00 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 05/18/2013 22:09

Necharsian wrote:

youve heard 2 shoegaze albums but sure make another sweeping generalization on the whole genre. id love to hear your opinions on black metal or post punk. all you really need to hear is one joy division song once and youll know all about it

If Joy Division is the best of post-punk, I feel comfortable saying that post-punk is a completely awful genre.

Re: The Grunge Thread

Necharsian — Sat, 18 May 2013 18:04:29 GMT

Author: Necharsian

Posted: 05/18/2013 22:04

JMan wrote:

Onto the shoegaze topic. Shoegaze, if I may be unchained, is a bunch of pointless echoes drowning out the actual music. I know I'm going to get a lotta screams for saying that, but I've heard Loveless twice and I can't find the appeal, or why there are so many charts on this site with Loveless in the top 10. I've also heard Psychocandy which is noise pop.

Re: The Grunge Thread

MrFrogger — Sat, 18 May 2013 17:54:56 GMT

Author: MrFrogger

Posted: 05/18/2013 21:54

Happymeal wrote:

Musically maybe, but timeline wise they come before the whole "Seattle Grunge Movement"

Also I'm just going to say again that I love Dinosaur Jr more than any grunge band.

Re: The Grunge Thread

Anonymous — Sat, 18 May 2013 17:52:45 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 05/18/2013 21:52

Cymro2011 wrote:

proto-grunge?

I think that's a fair label. Like how The Modern Lovers are proto-punk.

Re: The Grunge Thread

Anonymous — Sat, 18 May 2013 17:52:35 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 05/18/2013 21:52

Well, to be fair, you could call Dinosaur Jr. grunge and you wouldn't be too far out of the ball park. They're close enough that calling them grunge isn't too bad, though obviously they fit into other genres much better.

EDIT: Also, RYM has grunge listed as one of their genres (not their main one obviously) http://rateyourmusic.com/artist/dinosaur_jr_

And no, it's not prominent, but it isn't too far off.