Best Ever Albums

Re: Hidden Tracks

albummaster — Sat, 16 Mar 2013 05:14:27 GMT

Author: albummaster

Posted: 03/16/2013 09:14

gtroda wrote:

What is the policy on listing hidden tracks for albums?

If the title is known should they be listed in the track list?

This question assumes that they were on the original release.

Apologies for the delay in responding. Nobody has raised this before, so this isn't something there is a policy for at the moment. As everyone knows here (& you mentioned in your original post), BEA currently uses the original track listing of an album. If, on the original release, there are hidden tracks, personally I have no problem with those being added to the database and perhaps these tracks could be suffixed as '[Hidden Track]' (or something similar) so that people are aware when looking at a release that the listing might differ to what is visible on the artwork.

Re: Hidden Tracks

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 14:43:07 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 03/15/2013 18:43

Defago wrote:

I think they should be listed here. Artists hide the track as a gimmick, but they're separate tracks. It's hard to see two different songs separated by 5 minutes of silence as one piece. It would make track rating easier, for one, and make the database more comprehensible.

I agree.

Re: Hidden Tracks

Defago — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 14:40:03 GMT

Author: Defago

Posted: 03/15/2013 18:40

I think they should be listed here. Artists hide the track as a gimmick, but they're separate tracks. It's hard to see two different songs separated by 5 minutes of silence as one piece. It would make track rating easier, for one, and make the database more comprehensible.

Re: Hidden Tracks

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 14:37:13 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 03/15/2013 18:37

The reason I ask is because it's not done consistently. I've found some albums that have them listed while others don't.

Re: Hidden Tracks

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 14:34:19 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 03/15/2013 18:34

Thanks for taking over this thread to talk about a topic in another thread guys...

No one answered my initial question. If there is a hidden track on the original release, should it be listed in the database. For example, the original release of Purple by STP has a hidden track called "My Second Album". Should that be listed in the database or not?

Re: Hidden Tracks

MrFrogger — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 14:07:46 GMT

Author: MrFrogger

Posted: 03/15/2013 18:07

JMan wrote:

Hopefully this will have more credibility. Thanks Romanelli.

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I've never even heard that album, but that clearly lists the first track as having multiple sections,
But still being one track, much like something like Green Days "Jesus of Suburbia"

Re: Hidden Tracks

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 14:04:00 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 03/15/2013 18:04

Hopefully this will have more credibility. Thanks Romanelli.

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Re: Hidden Tracks

Romanelli — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 14:01:53 GMT

Author: Romanelli

Posted: 03/15/2013 18:01

JMan wrote:

Knowing you, I can't tell whether that's an attack or joke, so I'll take ie as a joke.

But technically, those aren't hidden tracks.

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This is the back of 2112.

This is not a picture of the back of 2112. This is a picture of the back of The String Quartet Tribute To 2112. Please, JMan. try to be a little smarter about this.

The back of the act6ual 2112 album by Rush clearly listes the song as one track with titled sections.

Re: Hidden Tracks

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 14:01:24 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 03/15/2013 18:01

I'm sorry if I caused any trouble.

Re: Hidden Tracks

Jasonconfused — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 13:40:10 GMT

Author: Jasonconfused

Posted: 03/15/2013 17:40

JMan wrote:

Well I never contradicted myself. It's only a hidden track if it's literally hidden until dicovered. If it's listed, it's not hidden.

You are SO dumb to the point that I'm afraid that if I continue to talk to you, I will only make myself dumber. Goodbye.

Re: Hidden Tracks

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 13:37:30 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 03/15/2013 17:37

Jasonconfused wrote:

That picture has zero credibility and value to this site. You stated the only thing that matters and that is that the site should be based on original releases. 2112 is one track.

Well I never contradicted myself. It's only a hidden track if it's literally hidden until dicovered. If it's listed, it's not hidden.

Re: Hidden Tracks

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 13:36:25 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 03/15/2013 17:36

After seeing that picture, and at the risk of appearing slightly tangential, I'm just gonna say fuck Ayn Rand

Re: Hidden Tracks

Jasonconfused — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 13:36:03 GMT

Author: Jasonconfused

Posted: 03/15/2013 17:36

JMan wrote:

Need I post the picture again?

That picture has zero credibility and value to this site. You stated the only thing that matters and that is that the site should be based on original releases. 2112 is one track.

Re: Hidden Tracks

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 13:32:28 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 03/15/2013 17:32

Need I post the picture again?

Re: Hidden Tracks

Jasonconfused — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 13:31:28 GMT

Author: Jasonconfused

Posted: 03/15/2013 17:31

JMan wrote:

Knowing you, I can't tell whether that's an attack or joke, so I'll take ie as a joke.

It's neither. I'm just pointing out how you're contradicting yourself on these two most recent suggestion threads.

Re: Hidden Tracks

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 13:29:58 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 03/15/2013 17:29

Jasonconfused wrote:

Just like 2112, huh JMan? :wink:

Knowing you, I can't tell whether that's an attack or joke, so I'll take ie as a joke.

But technically, those aren't hidden tracks.

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This is the back of 2112.

Re: Hidden Tracks

Jasonconfused — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 13:27:33 GMT

Author: Jasonconfused

Posted: 03/15/2013 17:27

JMan wrote:

The rules are that only the ORIGINAL release's track listing can be on the album's page. No bonus/hidden tracks. Unless the hidden tracks are on the original release.

Just like 2112, huh JMan? 😉

Re: Hidden Tracks

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 13:25:07 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 03/15/2013 17:25

gtroda wrote:

What is the policy on listing hidden tracks for albums?

If the title is known should they be listed in the track list?

This question assumes that they were on the original release.

The rules are that only the ORIGINAL release's track listing can be on the album's page. No bonus/hidden tracks. Unless the hidden tracks are on the original release.

Hidden Tracks

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 06:54:05 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 03/15/2013 10:54

What is the policy on listing hidden tracks for albums?

If the title is known should they be listed in the track list?

This question assumes that they were on the original release.