Best Ever Albums

Re: 90's Music

joannajewsom — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:55:29 GMT

Author: joannajewsom

Posted: 11/16/2009 02:55

I need to listen to Souls of Mischief again. Haven't heard that album since it was on cassette. I'll pick up some Ras Kass and Chino XL too. Thanks.

Re: 90's Music

dp39 — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:01:31 GMT

Author: dp39

Posted: 11/16/2009 02:01

Well the west coast is a style. I don't think people will listen to them if they want to have mind altering experiences. Tribe, PE, KRS- One, Common Semse, Pete Rock and CL Smooth, Black Star def. challenge people's mind more than west coasters. On the West the rappers are more about the 'hard' and 'gangster' raps; that's just the style I prefer because it goes well with the production they make. My opinion would be west coast has tremendous production and the style is more suited to my taste.

Some you might enjoy...
Ras Kass- Probably the most complex west coast lyricist, uses lots of biblical references, historical context, most of the shit i still don't understand
Chino XL- King of Punchlines
DJ Quik- Excellent Flow
Crooked I
Saigon
Rappin' 4-Tay
Souls of Mischief- Similar to Wu-Tang, lesser known and probably not as consistent, but released a great album
The Coup- Kind of pro-black lyrics
Dre Dog
Mac Mall
E-40's "In a Major Way" or "Game Related"
Compton's Most Wanted- Slow, extremely hardcore lyrics, almost a bit too much for my taste.
RBL Posse- One of my favorites
Jayo Felony
Hollow Tip
Dre D
Kurupt- Popular, but his old stuff is superb

Re: 90's Music

joannajewsom — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:43:32 GMT

Author: joannajewsom

Posted: 11/16/2009 01:43

I have to admit to preferring the east coast style of hip-hop much more than the west or any other region. Who do you think are the most lyrical west coast rappers, dp39? I can't think of any west coast rappers that have really impressed me lyrically.

Re: 90's Music

dp39 — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:47:16 GMT

Author: dp39

Posted: 11/13/2009 16:47

Elston wrote:

who's good from NY? All those people you listed from the West Coast...I don't see how NY could be better than that...but honestly I have no clue.

I think it has to do with where you live probably. i went to school in LA so I constantly heard that 90's rap when it was blooming. Either way both coasts can rap.

Some other West Coasters to check out... The Click (e-40 when he wasn't gay), Spice 1, Brotha Lynch Hung, Too $hort, MC Eiht, Dre D, Cold World Hustlers, South Central Cartel, 11/5, U.D.I., The D.O.C, Pharcyde, DJ Quik, Wc and the madd Circle, Luniz, MC Breed, Dre Dog, Mac Mall, Mc Dre, Ray Luv, Ill Mannered Playas, Celly Cel, Compton's Most Wanted, The Coup, Above the Law, BG Knockout and Dresta, Ras Kass.

I'm happy to help anybody come into contact with any one of these artists albums, just PM me if really interested.

Re: 90's Music

telefunker — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:41:56 GMT

Author: telefunker

Posted: 11/13/2009 11:41

i read a 2pac biography a while back.. funny how he was actually grew up on the east coast and used the moniker 'mc new york' when he first started out..

eastcoast rap has the lyrical edge, but westcoast produced it better.. dre, pac, snoop, nwa, quik, warren g, dogg pound, cube etc all had those banging funky beats, man

as for the whole gangster thing, i'm not sure it's really possible to juggle the two careers.. certainly very little point financially.. i mean we're not talking al capone gangster here, we're talking about street thug/crack dealing 'gangsters'.. why risk your life making a few hundred on the side of a million?

Re: 90's Music

Elston — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:22:43 GMT

Author: Elston

Posted: 11/13/2009 06:22

who's good from NY? All those people you listed from the West Coast...I don't see how NY could be better than that...but honestly I have no clue.

Re: 90's Music

Norman Bates — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:18:39 GMT

Author: Norman Bates

Posted: 11/13/2009 06:18

purple wrote:

N.W.A. are good but just don't have a chance against the army of New York.

I tend to prefer NY rap as well, but NWA are a bit more than good. REALLY brilliant.

Re: 90's Music

dp39 — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:32:22 GMT

Author: dp39

Posted: 11/13/2009 05:32

Bow wow wow yippe o yippe ah death rows in the mother fucking hoooouse.

If there was a smiley throwing up the west coast sign, i'd put it up.

Re: 90's Music

dp39 — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:28:20 GMT

Author: dp39

Posted: 11/13/2009 05:28

purple wrote:

Oh yeah, and eastside kills westside with a baretta that it used to rape westsides mom up the butt.

Come on: Public Enemy, B.I.G., Tribe Called Quest, Nas, Wu-Tang Clan, Brand Nubian, Ultramagnetic MCs, Jay-Z. Tupac, Snoop, and N.W.A. are good but just don't have a chance against the army of New York.

Death Row Records.

Re: 90's Music

Charicature — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:27:05 GMT

Author: Charicature

Posted: 11/13/2009 03:27

purple wrote:

To add to 90s list (if they haven't already)
Jane's Addiction- Ritual de lo Habitual
Pavement- Slanted and Enchanted
Pavement- Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain

I had the two Pavement albums (plus two more) - but did forget quite a few from my collection:
No Substance - Bad Religion
Hello Nasty - Beastie Boys
Star - Belly
Shake Your Money Maker - The Black Crowes
The Southern Harmony and Musical Companion - The Black Crowes
Electriclarryland - Butthole Surfers
16 Stone - Bush
Razorblade Suitcase - Bush
The Science Of Things - Bush
Kerosene Hat - Cracker
The Golden Age - Cracker
God Shuffled His Feet - Crash Test Dummies
You've Come a Long Way Baby - Fatboy Slim
Fountains Of Wayne - Fountains of Wayne
New Miserable Experience - Gin Blossoms
Cracked Rear View - Hootie and the Blowfish
Come On Feel The Lemonheads - The Lemonheads
The Sun Is Often Out - Longpigs
Mezzanine - Massive Attack
Brainbloodvolume - Ned's Atomic Dustbin
The Downward Spiral - Nine Inch Nails
The Fragile - Nine Inch Nails
Tragic Kingdom - No Doubt
Dummy - Portishead
The Presidents of the United States of America - The Presidents of the United States of America
Flood - They Might Be Giants
John Henry - They Might Be Giants
Sehnsucht - Rammstein
Blood Sugar Sex Magik - Red Hot Chili Peppers
One Hot Minute - Red Hot Chili Peppers
Resident Alien - Spacehog
Pocket Full Of Kryptonite - Spin Doctors
Core - Stone Temple Pilots
Purple - Stone Temple Pilots
Tiny Music...Songs From the Vatican Gift Shop - Stone Temple Pilots
Urban Hymns - The Verve
Villains - The Verve Pipe

That covers it, I think.

Re: 90's Music

RFNAPLES — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:23:09 GMT

Author: RFNAPLES

Posted: 11/13/2009 03:23

1990 -Depeche Mode-Violator
1990 -Happy Mondays-Pills 'n' Thrills and Bellyaches
1990 -Neil Young and Crazy Horse-Ragged Glory
1990 -Public Enemy-Fear of a Black Planet
1991 -A Tribe Called Quest-The Low End Theory
1991 -Massive Attack-Blue Lines
1991 -Metallica-Metallica ("The Black Album")
1991 -Nirvana-Nevermind
1991 -Pearl Jam-Ten
1991 -Primal Scream-Screamadelica
1991 -Teenage Fanclub-Bandwagonesque
1991 -The Orb-The Orb's Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld
1991 -U2-Achtung, Baby
1992 -Dr. Dre-The Chronic
1992 -Pavement-Slanted and Enchanted
1992 -R.E.M.-Automatic for the People
1993 -Björk-Debut
1993 -Liz Phair-Exile in Guyville
1993 -Nirvana-In Utero
1993 -Wu-Tang Clan-Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)
1994 -Blur-Parklife
1994 -Green Day-Dookie
1994 -Jeff Buckley-Grace
1994 -Oasis-Definitely Maybe
1994 -TLC-CrazySexyCool
1994 -Weezer-Weezer ("The Blue Album")
1995 -Alanis Morissette-Jagged Little Pill
1995 -Leftfield-Leftism
1995 -Oasis-(What's the Story) Morning Glory?
1995 -Pulp-Different Class
1995 -Radiohead-The Bends
1995 -The Chemical Brothers-Exit Planet Dust
1995 -Tricky-Maxinquaye
1996 -Beck-Odelay
1996 -DJ Shadow-Endtroducing.....
1996 -Fugees-The Score
1997 -Björk-Homogenic
1997 -Blur-Blur
1997 -Bob Dylan-Time Out of Mind
1997 -Buena Vista Social Club-Buena Vista Social Club
1997 -Daft Punk-Homework
1997 -Radiohead-OK Computer
1997 -The Chemical Brothers-Dig Your Own Hole
1997 -The Prodigy-The Fat of the Land
1997 -The Verve-Urban Hymns
1998 -Lauryn Hill-The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill
1998 -Lucinda Williams-Car Wheels on a Gravel Road
1998 -Massive Attack-Mezzanine
1999 -Basement Jaxx-Remedy
1999 -The Flaming Lips-The Soft Bulletin

Re: 90's Music

Anonymous — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:02:55 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 11/13/2009 03:02

Oh yeah, and eastside kills westside with a baretta that it used to rape westsides mom up the butt.

Come on: Public Enemy, B.I.G., Tribe Called Quest, Nas, Wu-Tang Clan, Brand Nubian, Ultramagnetic MCs, Jay-Z. Tupac, Snoop, and N.W.A. are good but just don't have a chance against the army of New York.

Re: 90's Music

Anonymous — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:57:04 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 11/13/2009 02:57

Yeah, I guess I don't think any rapper is really a gangsta because they all live past 30 and are out of prison and definately don't continue anything hugely gang-related they may have been doing. But I still uphold the view that Biggie was the most aggressive and the most gangsta out of all the fake gangsta rappers.

And to jewsom, I totally agree with you. If you listen to Nas' Illmatic, released within the same year months before Ready to Die, Nas already has established the New York rap style. Also, both of them use tons of the same phrases and rap about the same things. But, I still put Biggie ahead of everyone else...

To add to 90s list (if they haven't already)
Jane's Addiction- Ritual de lo Habitual
Pavement- Slanted and Enchanted
Pavement- Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain

Re: 90's Music

joannajewsom — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:54:40 GMT

Author: joannajewsom

Posted: 11/13/2009 02:54

2pac iz da reelest westsyde thug life 4 life homey

Link

Re: 90's Music

Mr. Shankly — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:45:01 GMT

Author: Mr. Shankly

Posted: 11/13/2009 02:45

dp39 wrote:

purple wrote:

He's probably not as influential as Wu-Tang but his raps were the most aggressive anyone has ever had. Sure, everyone can sing about being a gangsta, but I feel like Biggie was a gangsta and I feel like you can hear that he killed several people in his voice. I don't get that feeling from Nas, Wu-Tang, Jay-Z, 50 cent, Tupac, no one.

Please tell me you're joking. I don't mean to be a dick, but Biggie is a fake. It's well known he didn't have it as bad as he claims he did, even his mom will attest to that. Biggie was hardly a gangsta, his friends and family would say he was the biggest jokester and the funny fat guy growing up and never even owned a gun or did anything that thuggish. If you don't believe me, read up on it and watch a lot of movies.

In that sense, I don't think any rapper is a murderer, please.

Uh, oh. Looks like an Eastside vs. Westside battle up in here. 🤣

Re: 90's Music

joannajewsom — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:09:11 GMT

Author: joannajewsom

Posted: 11/13/2009 02:09

Elston wrote:

Listen to Ready to Die and tell me that guy isn't a great rapper. Or at least a very good one. He has an amazing flow.

Interesting. I always liked his sense of humor and personality more than his flow, and his rhyme patterns were pretty textbook east coast rap at that time and not that extraordinary. If he didn't have a certain wit/image that separated him from his contemporaries, I doubt we'd be talking about him right now.

Re: 90's Music

dp39 — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:48:43 GMT

Author: dp39

Posted: 11/13/2009 01:48

No no that's not what I said. Nobody is disputing that.

Re: 90's Music

Elston — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:43:19 GMT

Author: Elston

Posted: 11/13/2009 01:43

Listen to Ready to Die and tell me that guy isn't a great rapper. Or at least a very good one. He has an amazing flow.

Re: 90's Music

dp39 — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:58:31 GMT

Author: dp39

Posted: 11/13/2009 00:58

purple wrote:

Re: 90's Music

Mr. Shankly — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:46:10 GMT

Author: Mr. Shankly

Posted: 11/12/2009 23:46

1234567890 wrote:

Mr. Shankly wrote:

1234567890 wrote:

Elston wrote:

1234567890 wrote:

"Smells like teen spirit" and "dont speak" defined the 90s.
lest we forget.

Not for everybody. Besides, I assume the tournament is about musical quality, not 'cultural significance'.

Apologies, 90s music is "my baby" and as such i can get very excited.
Elsewhere, I believe what the tournament is based on is decided by the individual voter.

If the 90's is your baby, I recommend you set up a playdate with some of the nerdy indie rock babies ( not just the one's that got all the toys and attention) at the park.

Sweet! Where should i start? Any suggestions? really its my memories that make it so. It was a great time for me. The music was another party/ entity that was present, which i fell in love with. perhaps much like the baby boomers and the beatles, generally speaking.

Well, if you want suggestions, check out my nomination list. The 90's was among other things the golden age of indie rock. Pavement was the indie rock Nirvana in a lot of ways and just as important of a band. Definitely check them out. Check out Guided by Voices, Liz Phair's first album, The Flaming Lips, Yo La Tengo, Built to Spill, and of course, My Bloody Valentine for starters.