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Re: CLOSED: PPNW - SF: The Fall def. Television

Anonymous — Sat, 6 Jul 2013 08:36:06 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 07/06/2013 12:36

YES!

Re: CLOSED: PPNW - SF: The Fall def. Television

videoheadcleaner — Sat, 6 Jul 2013 08:06:45 GMT

Author: videoheadcleaner

Posted: 07/06/2013 12:06

Fall rises.

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Re: CLOSED: PPNW - SF: The Fall def. Television

Anonymous — Thu, 4 Jul 2013 05:39:09 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 07/04/2013 09:39

OK, The Fall are one of the greatest bands of all-time. They have so many amazing albums that instead of picking one for my chart I copped out and just put the six-disc Complete Peel Sessions on it instead, simply so that I didn't have to pick between Live at the Witch Trials or This Nation's Saving Grace or Bend Sinister or Hex Enduction Hour. Even their poorer albums always contain at least one great song, and they're a band that (despite drastically changing their sound at various times throughout their career) have never tried to be something they aren't or cater to a mainstream market. They are all that is great about post-punk. They eschewed the Chuck Berry-isms of their peers in favour of something altogether more out-there and arty, drawing on the disciplined disorder of Captain Beefheart and the hypnotic rhythms of Can, all topped off with the dissonance of the Velvet Underground and the snarl of The Stooges. Mark E. Smith acts as a sort of shamanic figure, spitting out "abstract poetry filled with complicated wordplay, bone-dry wit, cutting social observations and general misanthropy." If you're not too well acquainted with the band, I recommend that you remedy that immediately. On the first page of this thread are a bunch of my favourite Fall songs, and a listen to any of the albums mentioned in this post could change your life. Seriously. Marquee Moon is a stunning achievement, but I'd take The Fall's discography over Television's in a heartbeat. There are still a few of their albums I've yet to listen to, and that's part of what makes The Fall so great. Even when you think you know them, there are still absolute gems to be found. Very little in my listening life gives me the same pleasure as hearing an awesome Fall song for the first time, and they should be a serious contender for this entire tournament. God knows they deserve it as much as anybody. Vote The Fall.

Re: CLOSED: PPNW - SF: The Fall def. Television

videoheadcleaner — Thu, 4 Jul 2013 04:01:24 GMT

Author: videoheadcleaner

Posted: 07/04/2013 08:01

Close here as well.

More promos, captains!

Re: CLOSED: PPNW - SF: The Fall def. Television

Cymro2011 — Wed, 3 Jul 2013 15:37:21 GMT

Author: Cymro2011

Posted: 07/03/2013 19:37

🙏

Re: CLOSED: PPNW - SF: The Fall def. Television

Anonymous — Wed, 3 Jul 2013 15:03:53 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 07/03/2013 19:03

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Re: CLOSED: PPNW - SF: The Fall def. Television

CellarDoor — Wed, 3 Jul 2013 08:33:36 GMT

Author: CellarDoor

Posted: 07/03/2013 12:33

tekin wrote:

I think everytime I vote for a band on this tourney they lose.

Re: CLOSED: PPNW - SF: The Fall def. Television

Anonymous — Wed, 3 Jul 2013 08:12:32 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 07/03/2013 12:12

I think everytime I vote for a band on this tourney they lose.

Re: CLOSED: PPNW - SF: The Fall def. Television

drakonium — Tue, 2 Jul 2013 16:39:21 GMT

Author: drakonium

Posted: 07/02/2013 20:39

lethalnezzle wrote:

The fourth best album of all time versus some shit. C'mon people.

Re: CLOSED: PPNW - SF: The Fall def. Television

Cymro2011 — Tue, 2 Jul 2013 16:11:18 GMT

Author: Cymro2011

Posted: 07/02/2013 20:11

C'mon, I want The Fall to win this tourney.

Re: CLOSED: PPNW - SF: The Fall def. Television

Anonymous — Tue, 2 Jul 2013 16:04:06 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 07/02/2013 20:04

One great album versus several great albums. C'mon people.

Re: CLOSED: PPNW - SF: The Fall def. Television

CellarDoor — Tue, 2 Jul 2013 15:33:30 GMT

Author: CellarDoor

Posted: 07/02/2013 19:33

The Fall. The best longterm postpunkers with Wire.

Re: CLOSED: PPNW - SF: The Fall def. Television

MrFrogger — Tue, 2 Jul 2013 15:29:38 GMT

Author: MrFrogger

Posted: 07/02/2013 19:29

What a great matchup! Well, I guess I'll just stick my wimpy little promotion in here

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Television is an American band, formed in New York City in 1973. Although they recorded in a raw manner similar to their contemporaries, minimalizing the use of studio techniques, sound effects and atypical instruments, Television's music was unique and technically proficient, defined by guitarists Tom Verlaine and Richard Lloyd.

They are best known for their album Marquee Moon, released in 1977. It has been cited as important to the development of post-punk in the late 1970s and 1980s

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Their songs often differ between poppier hook driven songs, and more conventional punk songs

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Re: CLOSED: PPNW - SF: The Fall def. Television

Norman Bates — Tue, 2 Jul 2013 07:16:18 GMT

Author: Norman Bates

Posted: 07/02/2013 11:16

lethalnezzle wrote:

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How much I love this song is beyond words. Absolutely glorious.

Re: CLOSED: PPNW - SF: The Fall def. Television

Anonymous — Tue, 2 Jul 2013 07:07:38 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 07/02/2013 11:07

Marquee Moon has been one of my favourite albums since I first heard it, and on my chart since day one. That said, I'd take The Fall any day. Live at the Witch Trials, This Nation's Saving Grace, Bend Sinister, Hex Enduction Hour, Perverted By Language, Dragnet, Slates, Country on the Click are all fantastic albums, each one better than most bands manage in a career, not to mention all the essential Peel Sessions. John Peel famously said about The Fall that they're, "always different, always the same", and I think that's true. Mixing the snarl of garage rock and punk with the more out-there musical stylings of Can and Captain Beefheart (particularly Mark E. Smith's obsession with having a deliberately disciplined off-kilter rhythm section), they were/are just awesome. Over the years the lineup has changed time and time again, but Smith is still there, conducting his group and spraying his bizarre mix of stream-of-consciousness surrealism and Northern English sensibilities and satirical platitudes about everyday life. Their music is often dark and brooding, but more often really fucking fun. They're just one of the greatest bands ever, and the fact they've managed to make great music for 35 years now is just incredible, although even their biggest supporters would have a hard time calling them consistent. However, they're certainly consistently interesting, and at their best rival any other band on the planet. It should be no surprise to anybody that Pavement essentially stole their sound (honestly, 1992 Pavement = 1985 The Fall), whilst they were also a huge influence on Sonic Youth, among many, many others. Here's a bunch of reasons why you should vote for The Fall:

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They are The Fall; Northern white crap that talks back. Vote for them.

Re: CLOSED: PPNW - SF: The Fall def. Television

Norman Bates — Tue, 2 Jul 2013 06:32:14 GMT

Author: Norman Bates

Posted: 07/02/2013 10:32

Marquee Moon is magnificent, but I have voted for The Fall. That career record is simply wondrous. From what I know, Television have one masterpiece, one very good album, and one slightly above average (but with 'Days' in it). The Fall have one masterpiece (albeit not quite as perfect as Marquee Moon maybe), 3 excellent albums, and at least 6 other very good ones. The Fall then.

Re: CLOSED: PPNW - SF: The Fall def. Television

Anonymous — Tue, 2 Jul 2013 06:23:10 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 07/02/2013 10:23

A couple of days ago I would have abstained, and it still is really close. The Fall are insanely prolific and even though not all their albums are good, the ones that are good are fantastic. That being said, I would trade most of The Fall's discography for Marquee Moon, and I also quite like Adventure and their self-titled, so I'll vote Television.

CLOSED: PPNW - SF: The Fall def. Television

videoheadcleaner — Tue, 2 Jul 2013 06:13:07 GMT

Author: videoheadcleaner

Posted: 07/02/2013 10:13

TELEVISION (Coach: MrFrogger)

BEA Rank: 83

seeded (R1)
def. LiLiPUT (R2)

Vs.

THE FALL (Coach: lethalnezzle)

BEA Rank: 252

seeded (R1)
def. The Fall (R2)