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Re: Overrated Underrated Bands and Underrated Overrated bands

O.T. — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 06:12:05 GMT

Author: O.T.

Posted: 02/17/2010 11:12

It's a delicate issue with Radiohead. I think there are many attempts to place them among the "greatest bands of all time" and some people won't stop arguing that way until it happend. It happens unsually now with bands who try to express a kind of solemn despair. But maybe the time is over for Rock bands to be really great in terms of adding something new, doing something which has never been done, finding new terretory. Their opera like gesture make people believe they were such a special band. It happened to U2 and maybe will happen to Arcade Fire in the near future.

In contrast to Radiohead Cpt. Beefheart made really unique records. But he is always mentioned a the "misunderstood cult figure", "the man in Zappas shadow", "the man who deserves greater attention", "the strange genius". Well, he is a integral part of the Rock history, as you wrote. Most of his music was made to reach small audiences, that doen't make his music worse. But he isn't the huge genius that has to be really discovered, much of his music and maybe much of the fascination surrounding him is based in his idiosyncracy, also to be found in his paintings. And his band addded so much to his music, they may be really underrated as I wrote.

Re: Overrated Underrated Bands and Underrated Overrated bands

1234567890 — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 00:19:06 GMT

Author: 1234567890

Posted: 02/17/2010 05:19

Underrated overrated-
Nirvana
Elvis Presley... The 50's in general.

overrated underrated-
Radiohead

Re: Overrated Underrated Bands and Underrated Overrated bands

mikeyskywalker — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 22:46:00 GMT

Author: mikeyskywalker

Posted: 02/17/2010 03:46

O.T. wrote:

Some have been mentioned before, but it may be interesting to see that others share the notion:

Overrated Underrated
Nick Drake
Captain Beefheart
(but the "solo" albums by his Magic Band are really underrated!)
Vashti Bunyan
(great that she's was rediscovered anyway)
Giant Sand
Rufus Wainwright
Radiohead
Adam Green
Talk Talk
David Sylvian
(great Solo debut but then the absence of Mick Karns input became obvious)
Jeff Buckley
Faust
High Llamas

Underrated Overrated
Bee Gees (Disco Phase)
Janis Joplin
Lovin' Spoonful
Grateful Dead
Elvis Presley
Yoko Ono
ABBA
Supergrass
David Bowie (no, he was that great - for many years)
Grandmaster Flash
Jefferson Airplane
Slits

As far as I'm concerned, Radiohead deserves all the attention they recieve. I don't think they are referred to as underrated anyways.

Captain Beefheart definitely falls under that list though.

Re: Overrated Underrated Bands and Underrated Overrated bands

O.T. — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 18:28:54 GMT

Author: O.T.

Posted: 02/16/2010 23:28

Some have been mentioned before, but it may be interesting to see that others share the notion:

Overrated Underrated
Nick Drake
Captain Beefheart
(but the "solo" albums by his Magic Band are really underrated!)
Vashti Bunyan
(great that she's was rediscovered anyway)
Giant Sand
Rufus Wainwright
Radiohead
Adam Green
Talk Talk
David Sylvian
(great Solo debut but then the absence of Mick Karns input became obvious)
Jeff Buckley
Faust
High Llamas

Underrated Overrated
Bee Gees (Disco Phase)
Janis Joplin
Lovin' Spoonful
Grateful Dead
Elvis Presley
Yoko Ono
ABBA
Supergrass
David Bowie (no, he was that great - for many years)
Grandmaster Flash
Jefferson Airplane
Slits

Re: Overrated Underrated Bands and Underrated Overrated bands

RaineyWins — Sat, 13 Feb 2010 10:24:26 GMT

Author: RaineyWins

Posted: 02/13/2010 15:24

telefunker wrote:

Quote:

Overrated Underrated:
JEFF BUCKLEY

i'm sure there is a conspiracy somewhere to hoodwink people into thinking that guy ever did anything of any worth.. the only decent song on that god forsaken album of his was a fucking cover!

I agree the album as a whole is annoying, he irritates me

Re: Overrated Underrated Bands and Underrated Overrated bands

mikeyskywalker — Sat, 13 Feb 2010 06:54:18 GMT

Author: mikeyskywalker

Posted: 02/13/2010 11:54

telefunker wrote:

Quote:

Overrated Underrated:
JEFF BUCKLEY

i'm sure there is a conspiracy somewhere to hoodwink people into thinking that guy ever did anything of any worth.. the only decent song on that god forsaken album of his was a fucking cover!

I think it's a good album, but just not the greatest thing ever created. I'm rarely in the mood for it anymore though.

Re: Overrated Underrated Bands and Underrated Overrated bands

Mr.Music — Sat, 13 Feb 2010 06:19:02 GMT

Author: Mr.Music

Posted: 02/13/2010 11:19

David Bowie is overrated for sure. Riding on the wave of krautrockers and Brian Eno!

Re: Overrated Underrated Bands and Underrated Overrated bands

telefunker — Sat, 13 Feb 2010 04:16:46 GMT

Author: telefunker

Posted: 02/13/2010 09:16

Quote:

Overrated Underrated:
JEFF BUCKLEY

i'm sure there is a conspiracy somewhere to hoodwink people into thinking that guy ever did anything of any worth.. the only decent song on that god forsaken album of his was a fucking cover!

Re: Overrated Underrated Bands and Underrated Overrated bands

Anonymous — Fri, 12 Feb 2010 22:47:02 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 02/13/2010 03:47

I can't think of many 'overrated underrated,' but, even though Iggy Pop is considered great, he's not considered great enough. I don't think people realize how boring music would be with out The Stooges (thanks also to Steve Williamson and Ron Asheton) and a couple of his solo CDs (thanks also to David Bowie). On the subject of David Bowie, he should be more of a household name than the Beatles...

Re: Overrated Underrated Bands and Underrated Overrated bands

mikeyskywalker — Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:19:23 GMT

Author: mikeyskywalker

Posted: 02/13/2010 01:19

Overrated Underrated:
JEFF BUCKLEY

Re: Overrated Underrated Bands and Underrated Overrated bands

Applerill — Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:23:30 GMT

Author: Applerill

Posted: 02/12/2010 17:23

I know I'm gonna be beaten up for saying this, but Avril Lavigne doesn't deserve the hate she gets from "hardcore music people". Sure, she's a bit bratty some times, but guitarist Evan Taubenfeld has made some amazing riffs throughout her three albums, and "Take Me Away" is probably one of the most bombastic openings to any female album. Ever (I should know). She's definitely the first thing I think of when it comes to underrated.

Re: Overrated Underrated Bands and Underrated Overrated bands

Freddie55 — Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:54:32 GMT

Author: Freddie55

Posted: 02/12/2010 16:54

an_outlaw wrote:

telefunker wrote:

overrated underrated:

Are there people who consider Arctic Monkeys, Muse and Radiohead as underrated?

Arctic Monkeys and Muse have only been opening acts for other bands or played the bars here so far. I would call that underrated by "people" or overrated by critics and those who think they are great. Muse is changing that with their tour right now but they are not filling their larger venues and it is easy to get tickets. Even Radiohead doesn't sell-out arenas and stadiums and it is easy to get tickets. All three bands have ticket prices much lower than bands like U2 or Roger Waters and they play smaller venues and they don't fill them. I would call that underrated by "people" or overrated by critics and those who think they are great.

Re: Overrated Underrated Bands and Underrated Overrated bands

RaineyWins — Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:33:46 GMT

Author: RaineyWins

Posted: 02/12/2010 12:33

I know I am not answering this to what the thread is really asking, but here are my overrated and underrated artist

Overrated:
The Beatles
Radiohead
Muse
Wilco
Smiths
Smashing Pumpkins
U2
Pixies

Underrated:
Elvis Costello
Manic Street Preachers
Ray LaMontagne (Pretty much alone on the website)
Jack Savoretti (same as above)
John Legend
Kinks

Re: Overrated Underrated Bands and Underrated Overrated bands

maxperenchio — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:45:41 GMT

Author: maxperenchio

Posted: 02/11/2010 21:45

There's been a few threads that touch on this topic and they are always interesting. Its a tricky subject because there are sales/popularity based under/overrates, and critical-based ones. Some people think KISS or Black Sabbath are overrated because they've sold so many albums, have so many fans etc, but I always view them as horrendously underrated critically and musically.

Generally speaking, I think calling a band underrated is less problematic than calling a band overrated. I am under the impression that if tons of regular people or critics (which are people too...maybe) think an album is awesome, there is probably something there... whether I like that "something" varies from case to case of course. What does one accomplish or attempt to convey when they call some band overrated? That too many people like them? Ha! Just seems like a pointless thing to say. Saying a band is underrated though, can at least be productive... and even enlightening?

Re: Overrated Underrated Bands and Underrated Overrated bands

cartoken — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:40:58 GMT

Author: cartoken

Posted: 02/11/2010 21:40

an_outlaw wrote:

No No No, it's Overrated Underrated and Underrated Overrated. 😜 Unless your Word Magazine, The Beatles can not be underrated

ahh ok.

Re: Overrated Underrated Bands and Underrated Overrated bands

Anonymous — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:26:07 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 02/11/2010 21:26

cartoken wrote:

overrated :

The Beatles
Jay-Z
Portishead
Wilco
Vampire Weekend

underrated

Coldplay
Missy Elliott
Sleater-Kinney
Built To Spill

No No No, it's Overrated Underrated and Underrated Overrated. 😜 Unless your Word Magazine, The Beatles can not be underrated

Re: Overrated Underrated Bands and Underrated Overrated bands

cartoken — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:10:56 GMT

Author: cartoken

Posted: 02/11/2010 21:10

overrated :

The Beatles
Jay-Z
Portishead
Wilco
Vampire Weekend

underrated

Coldplay
Missy Elliott
Sleater-Kinney
Built To Spill

Re: Overrated Underrated Bands and Underrated Overrated bands

Charicature — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:00:14 GMT

Author: Charicature

Posted: 02/11/2010 20:00

an_outlaw wrote:

Yeah, thats okay 😜 I thought I would end up confusing everyone with this.

Your inclusion of Toto on here and your chart intrigues me too. I might check what other songs they had apart from Africa soon.

Roseanna was their "definitive" tune before Africa was released. Surprised you haven't heard that one.

Re: Overrated Underrated Bands and Underrated Overrated bands

RFNAPLES — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:21:43 GMT

Author: RFNAPLES

Posted: 02/11/2010 19:21

Like I'd like to like which albums you like to hate even though you don't like or hate them. 😉

Re: Overrated Underrated Bands and Underrated Overrated bands

Boogn1sh — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:15:57 GMT

Author: Boogn1sh

Posted: 02/11/2010 19:15

telefunker wrote:

overrated underrated:

the libertines (tabloid, fashion fodder. tuneless garbage.)
arctic monkeys (see above)
captain beefheart (originality is not the same as greatness)
frank zappa (see above. play a bicycle? fair play, but if it sounds like a bicycle, forget it. experimental music is fine, but not all experiments succeed.)
radiohead (insipid, mediocre songs. terrible singer. emotional? maybe.. but so what? britney spears gets pretty worked up too..)
muse (see above)
bob dylan (a handful of great songs is not enough when you've released god knows how many albums. i'm not a lyrics person really, so the rest just washes right over me. and i think dylan always had a penchant for self-aggrandization, if you read up on his history. blood on the tracks is one of the most overrated albums i've ever heard.)
a tribe called quest (maybe this sounded fresh back in the day, but it's hardly classic music is it?)

eric b and rakim (see above)
slint (not the worst music in the world.. but no way does it warrant the praise)
nick drake (horrid voice, as i've said before, sounds like a fat transvesdite)
neil young (bleh)
vampire weekend (rip off fail)
devo (ironic shit)

underrated overrated:

toto (africa, rosanna, hold the line etc. i believe they played too many solos and changed keys too many times for the critics and thus stumbled over the invisible line that distinguishes between modest profoundities and pretenencious bombast. who cares though, they're great.)
guns n roses (if they were creed or nickleback something, i'd understand. but these guys wrote november rain and welcome to the jungle. respect that!)
michael jackson (every song was pop perfection. can't fathom the accusations of talent-lacking)
the beach boys (pet sounds is the perfect pop album. like it or not, that's great)
backstreet boys (maybe pretty talentless themselves, but the tunes are very well written/arranged)
rihanna (see above)
queen (show me a better song than bohemian rhapsody)
eminem (rhyming skills are undeniable)

something like that anyway..

Hahahahaha good one.......wait this is for real?!