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Re: Favorite Bootlegs

Anonymous — Sun, 15 Dec 2013 10:52:26 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 12/15/2013 15:52

MrFrogger wrote:

There is no such thing as an "unofficial bootleg", it's just called a bootleg.

That's not what the people at Ledzeppelin.com told me. 😠 OK, I'm not going to bother asking anyone anymore. Let's just get back to listing our favorite bootlegs because all these answers from so many people are giving me a headache. The three Zep albums are unofficial, and I can still rate them on RYM.

Re: Favorite Bootlegs

albummaster — Sun, 15 Dec 2013 02:28:02 GMT

Author: albummaster

Posted: 12/15/2013 07:28

MrFrogger wrote:

Unless Led Zeppelin released them as live albums, I'm pretty sure that breaks site rules of adding unofficial releases, plus it just floods the database with crap.

Re: Favorite Bootlegs

MrFrogger — Sat, 14 Dec 2013 19:30:57 GMT

Author: MrFrogger

Posted: 12/15/2013 00:30

JMan wrote:

I want to know the difference between an official bootleg and an unofficial one besides someone from the company or the band deciding to release it.

There is no such thing as an "unofficial bootleg", it's just called a bootleg. An audience member brings a recording device to a concert, records it, then distributes it, that's a fucking bootleg. It probably sounds terrible, unless he managed to smuggle in some high quality equipment, or managed to record directly from the soundboard. An "official bootleg" is a concert recording directly released by the artist or label, either through the form of a live album, or a concert recording. A concert recording is a more modern practice, of a band taping their shows themselves, them releasing them online. This practice has been done by bands such as Phish, Pearl Jam, Wilco, Weezer, Fugazi, and others.

JMan wrote:

For a while I thought any vinyl releases meant it was an official bootleg, but someone told me that's not true.

No, of course that's not true, just because someone presses something on vinyl, doesn't mean that the artist magically said it was okay. For instance, Kanye chose not to press his newest album on vinyl, but so some other company decided that they would create their own bootleg pressing, to satisfy the demand for it on vinyl. Also, since bootleg pressings aren't from the artist or label, 99% of the time they're just sourced from the CD master of the album, and not mastered specifically for vinyl, so they generally sound like garbage.

JMan wrote:

I'd still like to know for future reference because I'll likely listen to more Zeppelin Bootlegs.

Unless Led Zeppelin released them as live albums, I'm pretty sure that brakes site rules of adding unofficial releases, plus it just floods the database with crap.

Re: Favorite Bootlegs

Patman360 — Sat, 14 Dec 2013 15:37:29 GMT

Author: Patman360

Posted: 12/14/2013 20:37

To quote myself off this thread.

Quote:

Bootlegs aren't official releases, therefore making the legality of them questionable. Granted some artists have since released these bootlegs as official, Bob Dylan's bootleg series for example.

Re: Favorite Bootlegs

Anonymous — Sat, 14 Dec 2013 15:10:07 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 12/14/2013 20:10

Someone just told me that "all bootlegs are technically unlawful." I doubt that. Knowing squat about bootlegs except that Bob Dylan created the first one, I want to know the difference between an official bootleg and an unofficial one besides someone from the company or the band deciding to release it. I wanna know because I added those three Zep bootlegs to the site, and they may be deleted unless I can find a source that says they are official. For a while I thought any vinyl releases meant it was an official bootleg, but someone told me that's not true.

I can't find the answers on Google, and I've googled many variants of the question "How do bootlegs become official?" "What's the difference between an official and unofficial bootleg?" "Is this an official bootleg?" I know there's such thing as an official bootleg. Pearl Jam and Bob Dylan and Weezer released some.

Does anybody here know how? This way, I can determine if "Ballcrusher," "Don't Mess With Texas," and "Ottawa Sunshine" are official. It's more likely due to information I've been given that the three are unofficial. However, I'd still like to know for future reference because I'll likely listen to more Zeppelin Bootlegs.

Re: Favorite Bootlegs

SingingPeasant96 — Tue, 10 Dec 2013 19:04:37 GMT

Author: SingingPeasant96

Posted: 12/11/2013 00:04

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I can't even name many studio albums that's better than this

Re: Favorite Bootlegs

Anonymous — Tue, 10 Dec 2013 14:25:10 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 12/10/2013 19:25

Well, this thread was short. Anyway, I just heard an official Zeppelin bootleg called Ballcrusher (kind of an AC/DC-esque title). The performances were very explosive, but the sound quality was poor due to the equipment used to record (I googled this) and the alkbum's video was most likely on a poor vinyl player. Anyway, the album is an official 1972 vinyl release. I give the album a 79. Next I'll hear the Zeppelin album (this is official, too) "The Dancing Avacado."

I never thought I would add a Led Zeppelin album to the site. And I'm going to add a second!

Re: Favorite Bootlegs

setalpgninnpseki — Tue, 15 Oct 2013 16:01:16 GMT

Author: setalpgninnpseki

Posted: 10/15/2013 20:01

Check out some vinyl rips of MONO albums unavailable on CD or digitally. A few that have yet to see rerelease:

Simon and Garfunkel - Parsley, Sage, Rosemary, and Thyme
Simon and Garfunkel - Bookends
The Doors - Strange Days
Cream - Fresh Cream

PSRT sounds particularly good in mono. The vocals on "Homeward Bound" make it sound like Simon is in the room with you.

Re: Favorite Bootlegs

MrFrogger — Mon, 14 Oct 2013 20:26:43 GMT

Author: MrFrogger

Posted: 10/15/2013 00:26

JMan wrote:

Whoa! Dream Theater has released over 20 bootlegs that range from demos, studio releases, live albums, and entire album covers! I'll be busy! :wink:

Dude, 20's nothing, I don't see what's the big deal. Grateful Dead and Phish have released hundreds possibly thousands of bootlegs.

I also really enjoy Animal Collective bootlegs, I have about 50 or in my itunes, and there's probably over double that amount I haven't heard.

Re: Favorite Bootlegs

Anonymous — Mon, 14 Oct 2013 19:00:43 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 10/14/2013 23:00

Whoa! Dream Theater has released over 20 bootlegs that range from demos, studio releases, live albums, and entire album covers! I'll be busy! 😉

Re: Favorite Bootlegs

Anonymous — Mon, 14 Oct 2013 18:46:52 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 10/14/2013 22:46

It's weird because I don't even really know what bootleg means anymore. There are so many live releases in some form or other, and anything of decent quality eventually comes out as a bonus disc or whatever. My dad's a bootlegger, so as I was growing up he'd be sending and receiving packages full of Bob Dylan and Grateful Dead and Rolling Stones and Beatles and Neil Young and Elvis Costello and Ryan Adams and Bruce Springsteen and Jackie Leven (and so on and so forth) live shows and rare demos, not to mention the occasional oddities from punk bands and various weird other stuff, and over the years I kind of got bored and subsequently shied away from that side of things. There's only so many times you can listen to some shitty audience recording of a show you weren't even at. I was a bit more into it when I was a kid, and I've got quite a few Strokes and Libertines and Flaming Lips and White Stripes and Nirvana bootlegs, among others, but I virtually never go back to them anymore. I guess one particular boot that springs to mind is Pavement's show from The Palace in Hollywood in 1994, although I think even that's seen an official release in recent years in some capacity (a lot of soundboard recordings do, given that people can make money from them). Another that I do go back to fairly regularly is a soundboard of the first Pixies reunion concert. The version of 'U-Mass' on that is mad dope.

Re: Favorite Bootlegs

pearljammer13 — Mon, 14 Oct 2013 18:33:22 GMT

Author: pearljammer13

Posted: 10/14/2013 22:33

Pearl Jam is the king of bootlegs, my favorite being Mansfield, MA 2003. They opened with their own acoustic set and ended up playing 44 songs in total, showing why they were and still are truly one of the greatest live bands on Earth. It was also the final show of a 3 night stretch in Mansfield in which they played 82 different originals and 12 covers with only 1 repeated song over the three nights. Wish I was into them back then considering the venue was only about 15 miles from where I lived at the time and it's one of the best places to see live music.

Re: Favorite Bootlegs

Jasonconfused — Mon, 14 Oct 2013 18:30:05 GMT

Author: Jasonconfused

Posted: 10/14/2013 22:30

One Night in Paris

Favorite Bootlegs

Anonymous — Mon, 14 Oct 2013 18:21:33 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 10/14/2013 22:21

I've only heard one bootleg, but I thought making a thread on it would raise another interesting topic. What are your favorite official and unofficial bootlegs?

So far, the only one I've heard is:

Link

Four-stars. Includes a unique cover of "Come Together." Later this month or next, I plan to get to Dream Theater's bootleg cover of DSOTM.