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Re: Outsider Art/Art Brut

meccalecca — Fri, 15 Nov 2013 08:10:19 GMT

Author: meccalecca

Posted: 11/15/2013 13:10

Norman Bates wrote:

I still wonder

Sorry I missed that. I think they would definitely fit under the Outsider classification.

Re: Outsider Art/Art Brut

Cymro2011 — Thu, 14 Nov 2013 15:23:02 GMT

Author: Cymro2011

Posted: 11/14/2013 20:23

Apparently Michael Yonkers is considered a "Outsider" musician. Not 100% sure about that personally though. Maybe back then in the late 60's/early 70's, yes, It was strange for the time. but now? no so much.

Re: Outsider Art/Art Brut

SuedeSwede — Thu, 14 Nov 2013 14:34:19 GMT

Author: SuedeSwede

Posted: 11/14/2013 19:34

Do I need to mention "The Madcap Laughs" and "Safe as Milk", or is it a given that these are amazing albums?

Re: Outsider Art/Art Brut

Norman Bates — Thu, 14 Nov 2013 14:28:41 GMT

Author: Norman Bates

Posted: 11/14/2013 19:28

Norman Bates wrote:

Isn't the ultimate example something like The Shaggs? In which one truly touches the limit of technical 'ability' (and even of pretty much everything else that's concerned with musicality even).

I still wonder

Re: Outsider Art/Art Brut

Patman360 — Thu, 14 Nov 2013 11:28:23 GMT

Author: Patman360

Posted: 11/14/2013 16:28

meccalecca wrote:

Have you seen Troll 2. It's on the same level

I haven't got a chance yet. 🙁

I've heard good things though, I must get around to it over Christmas!

Re: Outsider Art/Art Brut

meccalecca — Thu, 14 Nov 2013 11:25:19 GMT

Author: meccalecca

Posted: 11/14/2013 16:25

Patman360 wrote:

No other film has brought me as much joy as The Room.

Just read a list of quotes from it, inspiring stuff.

Have you seen Troll 2. It's on the same level

Re: Outsider Art/Art Brut

Patman360 — Thu, 14 Nov 2013 11:23:41 GMT

Author: Patman360

Posted: 11/14/2013 16:23

Applerill wrote:

And of course, The Room.

No other film has brought me as much joy as The Room.

Just read a list of quotes from it, inspiring stuff.

Re: Outsider Art/Art Brut

Anonymous — Thu, 14 Nov 2013 10:12:33 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 11/14/2013 15:12

Favorite musical outsider artists (whose work I truly, un-ironically enjoy) include David Liebe Hart (his stuff for Tim and Eric is obviously played for laughs due to his naivete, but his Christian spirituals are weirdly affecting), Florence Foster Jenkins (very odd opera singer), Lucia Pamela (weirdest pop singer ever - insists to this day that her only album was genuinely recorded on the moon), Jane and Barton (very minimal ambient-ish pop music; think a super sparse Grouper), Sensational (completely indescribable hip hop wackiness), and Shooby Taylor (the "Human Horn," whose scat singing has very odd punctuation and usage - bonus is that all his recordings are free through his website).

Re: Outsider Art/Art Brut

meccalecca — Thu, 14 Nov 2013 09:17:46 GMT

Author: meccalecca

Posted: 11/14/2013 14:17

Applerill wrote:

And of course, The Room.

one of the all time greatest works in Cinema.

Re: Outsider Art/Art Brut

meccalecca — Thu, 14 Nov 2013 09:15:16 GMT

Author: meccalecca

Posted: 11/14/2013 14:15

SquishypuffDave wrote:

Here are a couple of my favourite examples of what I'd call outsider art:

Squishy, Those were fantastic!

Re: Outsider Art/Art Brut

Anonymous — Thu, 14 Nov 2013 06:59:58 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 11/14/2013 11:59

Y. Bhekhirst is lovely:

Link

He has one full length album, which is great:

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Hot In The Airport by Y Bhekhirst

Re: Outsider Art/Art Brut

Applerill — Thu, 14 Nov 2013 06:21:27 GMT

Author: Applerill

Posted: 11/14/2013 11:21

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The Book Of Abysmality, Special Edition by Charlie N. George

And of course, The Room.

Re: Outsider Art/Art Brut

GeevyDallas — Thu, 14 Nov 2013 05:52:25 GMT

Author: GeevyDallas

Posted: 11/14/2013 10:52

Drake

Re: Outsider Art/Art Brut

Norman Bates — Thu, 14 Nov 2013 01:23:32 GMT

Author: Norman Bates

Posted: 11/14/2013 06:23

Isn't the ultimate example something like The Shaggs? In which one truly touches the limit of technical 'ability' (and even of pretty much everything else that's concerned with musicality even).

Re: Outsider Art/Art Brut

benpaco — Wed, 13 Nov 2013 23:01:46 GMT

Author: benpaco

Posted: 11/14/2013 04:01

Jasonconfused wrote:

It's hard for me to know where the threshold lies for when something becomes "outsider."

This. I came here actually expecting a thread on the band Art Brut and excited, though I'm aware of this movement too due to alienpumaspacetrain. Google it. It's a thing.

Anyways, I have no idea if someone is ill or a child or their mind works that way or what. Here's music I'd soundtrack Art Brut with. I know these fall under other, broader genres, but this is my take on it, I suppose.

Link

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Link

Re: Outsider Art/Art Brut

SquishypuffDave — Wed, 13 Nov 2013 21:33:24 GMT

Author: SquishypuffDave

Posted: 11/14/2013 02:33

Here are a couple of my favourite examples of what I'd call outsider art:

Link

Link

I'm not sure exactly how I'd define the genre, but I guess it would include things like lack of emphasis on craft, or perhaps the artwork itself being a secondary function of something else; a form of expression where the end product is peripheral.

Re: Outsider Art/Art Brut

Anonymous — Wed, 13 Nov 2013 18:46:08 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 11/13/2013 23:46

Great music is being the outsider! 😁

Re: Outsider Art/Art Brut

meccalecca — Wed, 13 Nov 2013 18:29:04 GMT

Author: meccalecca

Posted: 11/13/2013 23:29

Jasonconfused wrote:

That's hilarious. I have so many thoughts in my head about that aspect of the art world but I'll keep them to myself because I haven't organized them into a coherent argument and I'd rather not say something stupid.

It's all a lot like Death Grips.

Re: Outsider Art/Art Brut

Jasonconfused — Wed, 13 Nov 2013 17:17:00 GMT

Author: Jasonconfused

Posted: 11/13/2013 22:17

meccalecca wrote:

That's the state of modern art. and to some that concept is the art. Many art movements of the last century or two have been primarily based around the concept of question what is art. art is worth whatever value someone is willing to pay for it. In NYC last month, Banksy secretly set up a little street vendor shop in central park selling his work for $50, and only 2 totally oblivious people bought it. But when people know it's a Banksy, it sells for hundreds of thousands. the art world is the dumbest.

Re: Outsider Art/Art Brut

Necharsian — Wed, 13 Nov 2013 17:06:41 GMT

Author: Necharsian

Posted: 11/13/2013 22:06

meccalecca wrote:

I don't know much of anything about Rock in Opposition, but it seems more like a counter-culture than Outsiders. The fact that they existed within a movement pretty much says they wouldn't classify as Outsiders. Outsiders generally create without any regard to what is happening in any given scene.

Ah yeah that makes sense. I was pretty sure it wouldnt classify but just wanted to give a shout out to art bears anyway 😁