Best Ever Albums

Re: Second BEUT noms : finally done!

mickilennial — Mon, 12 May 2014 13:20:49 GMT

Author: mickilennial

Posted: 05/12/2014 17:20

RockyRaccoon wrote:

To be fair, if one is being critical of a piece of music, the comments need to be better than "this is so dumb any1 who likes it is super stoopid" which can happen, and those comments are just as unproductive as "this is the best" if we want to engage in meaningful discussion about an album.

^

I will respect a tactful, well-articulated negative criticism.

I will not tolerate pointless bashing and non-discussive negative comments.

Guess which one I see more even on BEA? Yep! The latter!

Re: Second BEUT noms : finally done!

RockyRaccoon — Mon, 12 May 2014 12:34:54 GMT

Author: RockyRaccoon

Posted: 05/12/2014 16:34

To be fair, if one is being critical of a piece of music, the comments need to be better than "this is so dumb any1 who likes it is super stoopid" which can happen, and those comments are just as unproductive as "this is the best" if we want to engage in meaningful discussion about an album.

Re: Second BEUT noms : finally done!

Anonymous — Mon, 12 May 2014 12:24:45 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 05/12/2014 16:24

Exactly. Affirming positive criticism gets boring after a while. No piece of art is perfect and while bashing is just another extreme end of the spectrum, intellectual discussion is fun and often very helpful, especially negative critique. It helps you grow and develop your craft more.

Re: Second BEUT noms : finally done!

alelsupreme — Mon, 12 May 2014 11:58:23 GMT

Author: alelsupreme

Posted: 05/12/2014 15:58

Without criticism what else is there to say but "oh i love this" over and over again? what's the point of even talking about music if all you can talk about is how much you like your favs? not saying that isn't good, but it shouldn't be the basis of all discussion.

Re: Second BEUT noms : finally done!

Jackwc — Mon, 12 May 2014 11:51:06 GMT

Author: Jackwc

Posted: 05/12/2014 15:51

Gowienczyk wrote:

Will never agree with the sentiment of bashing something is productive. It was half-related to the worst user discussion and it's something I despised about the awards and forgot to publicly mention a few months ago.

Criticism is what drives art, rejecting one aesthetic is how new aesthetics are born. So yes, "bashing" is pretty much the most constructive thing you can do. I don't actually know what's going on here or what's really being discussed because I'm too lazy to lurk further into this thread, but I appreicate someone's ability to articulate why they disliked something more than their ability to articulate why they liked it.

Re: Second BEUT noms : finally done!

Anonymous — Sat, 10 May 2014 17:45:12 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 05/10/2014 21:45

I usually agree with Gowi, but regardless of whether you find discussing the worst album of the year to be dumb, some people do enjoy it, and something is gained from it at least, so I don't see why you are so vehemently against the idea. Just don't bother with discussing it!

Re: Second BEUT noms : finally done!

mickilennial — Sat, 10 May 2014 13:48:14 GMT

Author: mickilennial

Posted: 05/10/2014 17:48

I guess so. 😜

Re: Second BEUT noms : finally done!

Anonymous — Sat, 10 May 2014 13:45:05 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 05/10/2014 17:45

It's not bashing something since as with all the award choices not everyone agrees (I vehemently disagreed with this years winner for worst album) but it's still interesting to see where the forums taste is at on a general level. I guess it's an agree to disagree issue.

Re: Second BEUT noms : finally done!

mickilennial — Sat, 10 May 2014 13:40:58 GMT

Author: mickilennial

Posted: 05/10/2014 17:40

Jhereko wrote:

What we don't like is as important as what we like. One shapes the other. Positivity is a great thing except when forced without question. Despite that - the focus on the awards is still 95% on what we loved from the year. Not sure why it bothered you enough to bring it up where it wasn't even relevant.

Re: Second BEUT noms : finally done!

Anonymous — Sat, 10 May 2014 13:30:48 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 05/10/2014 17:30

Gowienczyk wrote:

It's not important to see what artist/album is the worst received.

Re: Second BEUT noms : finally done!

Mercury — Sat, 10 May 2014 13:27:43 GMT

Author: Mercury

Posted: 05/10/2014 17:27

Jhereko wrote:

It really doesn't detract from it either. It's kind of childish to get upset about it being there when it does serve to reflect an important aspect of a users taste.

This. So much this.

🤣

Re: Second BEUT noms : finally done!

mickilennial — Sat, 10 May 2014 13:26:46 GMT

Author: mickilennial

Posted: 05/10/2014 17:26

It's not important to see what artist/album is the worst received.

Re: Second BEUT noms : finally done!

Anonymous — Sat, 10 May 2014 13:23:48 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 05/10/2014 17:23

Gowienczyk wrote:

It's a pointless award that brings no discussion or depth to the awards. It's childish.

It really doesn't detract from it either. It's kind of childish to get upset about it being there when it does serve to reflect an important aspect of a users taste.

Re: Second BEUT noms : finally done!

Anonymous — Sat, 10 May 2014 11:47:45 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 05/10/2014 15:47

Gowienczyk wrote:

It's a pointless award that brings no discussion or depth to the awards. It's childish.

This. So much this

Re: Second BEUT noms : finally done!

mickilennial — Sat, 10 May 2014 11:41:50 GMT

Author: mickilennial

Posted: 05/10/2014 15:41

alelsupreme wrote:

Fair enough about the negative user awards, but if we cant even take worst music awards without getting into a tiff then we need to toughen the fuck up.

It's a pointless award that brings no discussion or depth to the awards. It's childish.

Re: Second BEUT noms : finally done!

drakonium — Fri, 9 May 2014 20:12:13 GMT

Author: drakonium

Posted: 05/10/2014 00:12

ShaneSpear wrote:

Link to the bracket in case you forgot to look at the stickies:

http://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=10331

Ah, thanks Shane!

Re: Second BEUT noms : finally done!

ShaneSpear — Fri, 9 May 2014 18:56:24 GMT

Author: ShaneSpear

Posted: 05/09/2014 22:56

Link to the bracket in case you forgot to look at the stickies:

http://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=10331

Re: Second BEUT noms : finally done!

Mercury — Fri, 9 May 2014 18:23:58 GMT

Author: Mercury

Posted: 05/09/2014 22:23

I'm excited about this. Still, I don't take your efforts for granted, Drako. Thanks for taking this back under your wing.

Re: Second BEUT noms : finally done!

drakonium — Fri, 9 May 2014 16:47:49 GMT

Author: drakonium

Posted: 05/09/2014 20:47

Perfect, thanks to you three, can't believe we missed brun0, good call tiger. Brackets loading...

Re: Second BEUT noms : finally done!

SuedeSwede — Fri, 9 May 2014 16:44:37 GMT

Author: SuedeSwede

Posted: 05/09/2014 20:44

I'll replace my nom for Mirek with brun027...