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Poll: Who Was the Best Bond Actor?
Sean Connery
30%
 30%  [7]
George Lazenby
4%
 4%  [1]
Roger Moore
13%
 13%  [3]
Timothy Dalton
4%
 4%  [1]
Pierce Brosnan
0%
 0%  [0]
Daniel Craig
26%
 26%  [6]
Jasonconfused
21%
 21%  [5]
Total Votes : 23

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#31 | Posted: 07/16/2014 06:02 | Post subject: Reply with quote
CubaZed wrote:
Dalton is massively underrated. Honestly your list is rock solid, the only things I would change would be moving Goldfinger somewhere into the top 10 and putting The World Is Not Enough at the very bottom.


My problem with Goldfinger is that it's dull as dishwater. It has some beautiful cinematography, a decent villain, but then it has some of the best, most iconic scenes (the laser table, the golf game, Bond vs. Oddjob, Bond finding Jill Masterton dead, the pre-title sequence) in the series sandwiched in between some of the most tedious and awful crap from the Connery era (the atrocious ending with Goldfinger being sucked out of the plane, anything involving Tilly Masterton, and most of all the meeting with the mobsters which is not only completely pointless but also features some fucking godawful acting "WUTZ WIT DAT TRIK POOL TAYBULL" "WAYYYYZ DA FLOOOOR MOOOOOVIIIIING") and I really struggle to get through it. It's also not nearly as influential as some credit it to be; From Russia With Love and Dr. No established many of the "trademarks" that are always attributed to Goldfinger. I think Goldfinger needs a serious re-appraisal from the public at large. I always guffaw a bit when I see it top a list for no reason. Granted, I've seen people make a genuine case for Goldfinger to the point where I can accept they're not just bandwagoning it to the top, but 99% of the lists with Goldfinger at the top appear to be either "public polls" or to have been made by people who don't really know the series.

As for TWINE, well, its' ranking is part nostalgia; TWINE was my first Bond film ever. I saw it on VHS when I was seven. I need to watch it again to properly rank it (I've only seen it a handful of times, all but the first having been in the past two years; the torture sequence "scared" me away from TWINE when I was a kid and I never gave the film a fair chance, I used to routinely dismiss it as one of the worst in the series even though it had been about a decade between that first viewing and when I finally allowed myself to watch it front-to-back again). I can see it settling a couple spots back, maybe #12 or #13, but I won't end up putting it at the bottom. There's too much for me to like. Elektra is an amazing villain and one of the best female characters in the series, the Bilbao PTS is phenomenal, Brosnan gives his only good performance as Bond here (though, granted, some of his line deliveries are shit "he knew about my shouuuuuulderknew exactly where to huuuurt me") and I find that, although Apted is poor at directing action sequences (everything is just... too slow) he does a good job with Bond as a character I find.

As for Christmas Jones, well... I give her a 5/10. 0/5 from the character/acting standpoint because it's Denise Richards, but 5/5 from the fuckability standpoint because it's Denise Richards.
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#32 | Posted: 07/16/2014 07:10 | Post subject: Reply with quote
AgainstMeAgainstYou wrote:
My problem with Goldfinger is that it's dull as dishwater. It has some beautiful cinematography, a decent villain, but then it has some of the best, most iconic scenes (the laser table, the golf game, Bond vs. Oddjob, Bond finding Jill Masterton dead, the pre-title sequence) in the series sandwiched in between some of the most tedious and awful crap from the Connery era (the atrocious ending with Goldfinger being sucked out of the plane, anything involving Tilly Masterton, and most of all the meeting with the mobsters which is not only completely pointless but also features some fucking godawful acting "WUTZ WIT DAT TRIK POOL TAYBULL" "WAYYYYZ DA FLOOOOR MOOOOOVIIIIING") and I really struggle to get through it. It's also not nearly as influential as some credit it to be; From Russia With Love and Dr. No established many of the "trademarks" that are always attributed to Goldfinger. I think Goldfinger needs a serious re-appraisal from the public at large. I always guffaw a bit when I see it top a list for no reason. Granted, I've seen people make a genuine case for Goldfinger to the point where I can accept they're not just bandwagoning it to the top, but 99% of the lists with Goldfinger at the top appear to be either "public polls" or to have been made by people who don't really know the series.


This I mostly agree with. Goldfinger and Thunderball are both severely overhyped in the actual Bond franchise and I would agree with you that From Russia With Love is the best Sean Connery Bond film. However, my main reason for placing Goldfinger in the top 10 (probably around 10 or 9) would be that I actually prefer Connery's acting ability here. The sleazy sort of charm he gives off is probably best seen in this film and he just generally seems to be having a fun time. Yes, there are some very cringeworthy moments, but for me they alter from being just below that Moore level of camp (that stops me from enjoying the majority of Moore's outings) to so bad they make me laugh. The whole subtle hinting that Pussy Galore is a lesbian and the fact that essentially Bond is trying to change her sexuality is so politically incorrect it never ceases to crack me up. Plus those iconic scenes are just so... well iconic. I'll never forget the image of Jill Masterton covered in gold as it's such an alluring, bizarre scene the draws you into the story. Definitely overrated but will probably hang on the very edge of my top 10 (at least until the next Bond movie is released).

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As for TWINE, well, its' ranking is part nostalgia; TWINE was my first Bond film ever. I saw it on VHS when I was seven. I need to watch it again to properly rank it (I've only seen it a handful of times, all but the first having been in the past two years; the torture sequence "scared" me away from TWINE when I was a kid and I never gave the film a fair chance, I used to routinely dismiss it as one of the worst in the series even though it had been about a decade between that first viewing and when I finally allowed myself to watch it front-to-back again). I can see it settling a couple spots back, maybe #12 or #13, but I won't end up putting it at the bottom. There's too much for me to like. Elektra is an amazing villain and one of the best female characters in the series, the Bilbao PTS is phenomenal, Brosnan gives his only good performance as Bond here (though, granted, some of his line deliveries are shit "he knew about my shouuuuuulderknew exactly where to huuuurt me") and I find that, although Apted is poor at directing action sequences (everything is just... too slow) he does a good job with Bond as a character I find. As for Christmas Jones, well... I give her a 5/10. 0/5 from the character/acting standpoint because it's Denise Richards, but 5/5 from the fuckability standpoint because it's Denise Richards.


As for TWINE here is what I'll give it. Elektra is a pretty decent villain, the theme song is probably one of the best in the series and that opening boat chase is pretty badass. My first problem with it is that when it comes down to it, I just don't like Brosnan's Bond. He relies too much on the Moore style quips but pulls it off slightly too serious for it to be portrayed as a satirical farce. I feel he peaked in Goldeneye and made a slow decline from then on. Admittedly, some of my hate for Brosnan is from personal reasons (namely his asshole son who I spent a year of middle school with) but for me he's probably the weakest of the actors to have played Bond. Then there's the rest of the cast. Robbie Coltrane is back and whilst getting more screen time (presumably from fan reaction) his character kind of falls apart due to bad writing. Goldie is alright but he has a twist you can see coming from a mile away and it feels kind of forced. John Cleese puts in a terrible portrayal as the new Q, he's only on the screen for a few minutes and I'm always relieved when he's gone. Denise Richards is the worst Bond girl of all time. Even from the "fuckability" standpoint for me because she's so lifeless it is like she is a corpse. The scene in the oil pipeline might me one of the most comical scenes in Bond movie history. Then there's Robert Carlyle's villain and here's where I am torn. On paper he has one of the greatest potentials for a Bond villain. He will die and he knows it, and as the bullet is slowly burying further into his brain he's beginning to feel physically less and less and increasingly desperate to accomplish his goals. Theoretically, he should be a more hands on Bond villain, one with a death wish (much like Bardem's villain in Skyfall but with more of an edge) and yet, he remains the cookie cutter Bond villain that plagues many of the films. Cool and calculating and will never get involved until the final battle (except maybe once or twice to say hello or plot something in plain site of Bond as some narrative device). I guess I'm more angry at what the film could be rather than what it is. The dynamic between Renard and Elektra always intrigued me and if handled well it had the potential to be one of the best in the series.... it's just so poorly done, everything about it for me is disappointment.
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#33 | Posted: 07/16/2014 10:26 | Post subject: Reply with quote
Sean Connery was great but I really enjoy Daniel Craig's films. They have made Bond more human and the screenplays more noir. It's hard to compare both as they have been Bond in very different periods in the history of James Bond but I find both much better than the rest.
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#34 | Posted: 07/16/2014 22:39 | Post subject: Reply with quote
I forgot to mention, CubaZed, that I also have a huge issue with Connery in Goldfinger. He basically reversed his portrayal of Bond to be more "fun" and "comical" which I also partly blame on the change of directors (Terence Young should've done all of the first four, then in a perfect world Peter Hunt should've taken over with OHMSS before YOLT). Considering Connery was at his best in Thunderball, it's a bit disappointing that his weakest performance pre-YOLT is sandwiched in between his two best, rather than being a stepping stone between the two.

I also rank Brosnan as the worst Bond, so he doesn't get huge points from me for TWINE, I just mean to say that it's his only film where I think his performance is actually good. The reason GoldenEye is so low on my list (7th as opposed to, say, 3rd or 4th) is, for the most part, because of Brosnan.
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#35 | Posted: 12/05/2016 16:49 | Post subject: Reply with quote
I love the Bond movies, although I don't really bother too much with the Daniel Craig films although they are brilliantly made, they're just a bit too serious. Obviously they're competing with the 'Bourne' movies and fair enough, but even though I'm a Bond fanatic I feel they should knock it on the head after Craig leaves. They just don't have that sense of fun,, that camp quality with all the silly villains which is what Bond is all about as far as i'm concerned, although they wouldn't work now. Yes, you've got to move with the times but it's 54 years now, it's time to leave it alone. But, money talks, I suppose. The Daniel Craig films are all about adrenalin, rather than character. I still think he does a good job as 007, as they all do. Personally I wish Timothy Dalton had stuck around for a few more, I think, The living daylights, is one of the most underrated of all Bond films. Anyway, here's my top ten.
1. You only live twice.
2. For your eyes only.
3. Dr. No
4. Goldfinger.
5. The spy who loved me
6. The living daylights.
7. From Russia with love.
8. The man with the golden gun.
9. On her majesty's secret service.
10. Thunderball.
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I think Casino Royale is one of the greatest action films of the 21st century
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#37 | Posted: 04/23/2017 17:33 | Post subject: Reply with quote
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OVERALL RANKINGS:
1. From Russia With Love
2. The Spy Who Loved Me
3. The Living Daylights
4. Goldfinger
5. Casino Royale
6. The Man With the Golden Gun
7. Tomorrow Never Dies
8. Diamonds Are Forever
9. Licence To Kill
10. Thunderball
11. A View To a Kill
12. Skyfall
13. GoldenEye
14. You Only Live Twice
15. Octopussy
16. Dr. No
17. Spectre
18. For Your Eyes Only
19. Live and Let Die
20. Quantum of Solace
21. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
22. Die Another Day
23. Moonraker
24. The World Is Not Enough


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#38 | Posted: 05/18/2017 22:10 | Post subject: Reply with quote
My favourite is Live and Let Die. It is over-the-top, it has Jane Seymour in it and Roger Moore does a great job in a terrific film which is very entertaining. Although Sean Connery is my favourite Bond, there is just something about this movie which is ace. Plus its my favourite Bond theme song. Dramatic and exciting.
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