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#451 | Posted: 03/02/2018 05:36 | Post subject: Reply with quote
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sethmadsen wrote:
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Thx Seth. Well it does help to complete my year charts: ex people pointed out that there’s a lot missing in my 1967 year chart but that’s because I haven’t covered that year yet.
On the other hand it makes me realise that there is a lot of music I just don’t like in the top 2500 and that the real gems are often hidden below rank 2500.


I bet. I'm very interested in someday doing the same. I like cultural history, so makes sense to tackle it per year, etc. You are pretty close to getting to now - will you start over and do the same 5 year break between, just in different intervals?

Hi Seth,I’m actually doing that: I started in 1963 and did 5 year intervals until 2013, then restarted in 1964 to 2014, then 1965 to 2015, then 1966 to now 2006; after that cycle I’ll restart at 1967 to 2017, which means I wil have covered every year from 1963 to 2017.


Awesome - so you are like 75% done. That's rad! Did you have a quantity goal or just whatever interested you from the year?
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#452 | Posted: 03/02/2018 05:53 | Post subject: Reply with quote
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sethmadsen wrote:
dihansse wrote:
Thx Seth. Well it does help to complete my year charts: ex people pointed out that there’s a lot missing in my 1967 year chart but that’s because I haven’t covered that year yet.
On the other hand it makes me realise that there is a lot of music I just don’t like in the top 2500 and that the real gems are often hidden below rank 2500.


I bet. I'm very interested in someday doing the same. I like cultural history, so makes sense to tackle it per year, etc. You are pretty close to getting to now - will you start over and do the same 5 year break between, just in different intervals?

Hi Seth,I’m actually doing that: I started in 1963 and did 5 year intervals until 2013, then restarted in 1964 to 2014, then 1965 to 2015, then 1966 to now 2006; after that cycle I’ll restart at 1967 to 2017, which means I wil have covered every year from 1963 to 2017.


Awesome - so you are like 75% done. That's rad! Did you have a quantity goal or just whatever interested you from the year?

First I did the first albums that interested me then I took all the album I hadn’t heard yet from the overall BEA top 2500 albums of that year which can range for 20 to 70 albums per year.

At the end of each cycle I conclude with a bit of statistics so one coming up when I end 2016. For the next cycle I intens on expanding it a bit to also include the albums I already know: this would also give a bit of variety because now I too often just give short negative reviews on albums I don’t like.

Currently I’m a bit investested in Phish and there’s so much on that especially since their jams can be very long that it takes a lot of time.
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#453 | Posted: 03/03/2018 00:03 | Post subject: Reply with quote
Right on man... I'm a bit envious that you're almost done!!!

Phish is pretty great.

These are my favorite records:

Live:

Live Phish Volume 4 by Phish

Studio:

Farmhouse by Phish
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#454 | Posted: 03/06/2018 19:27 | Post subject: 2006 (3) Reply with quote
More albums of 2006:
- Fox Confessor Brings The Flood by Neko Case (nr 36 on the overall BEA top chart of 2006): I actually like her voice and some of the instrumentation on this record and if all tracks would have the musical quality of Hold On, Hold On I wouldn't even doubt to put this album in my top chart. But unfortunately most of the other tracks are not of the same quality so I'll give this one a miss
- Harmony In Ultraviolet by Tim Hecker (nr 37): too many bleeps and not for me
- Lupe Fiasco's Food And Liquor by Lupe Fiasco (nr 38 ): another hiphop record
- The Information by Beck (nr 39): not my kinda Beck
- The Greatest by Cat Power (nr 40): I can make the same comment as for Neko Case: interesting voice, sometimes interesting instrumentation but songwise not the best
- It's Never Been Like That by Phoenix (nr 41): the first 7 songs are fairly common Phoenix tracks and not really my thing but then came North and Sometimes in the fall which are actually jangly rock songs and I like jangly rock songs. But overall I decided against.
- The Drift by Scott Walker (nr 42): this album is so depressing but in the bad sense that nobody should be forced to listen to this album completely
- Show Your Bones by Yeah Yeah Yeahs (nr 43): there are some good songs on this album but overall it's a bit too lightweight to actually be good enough overall
- Destroyer's Rubies by Destroyer (nr 44): and then finally an album I really liked: some quirky songwriting here but generally and overall very interesting so I like, I like

The next album to listen to is Under The Iron Sea by Keane
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#455 | Posted: 03/12/2018 21:46 | Post subject: 2006 (4) Reply with quote
And my final contributions for 2006 albums:
- Under The Iron Sea by Keane (nr 45 on the overall BEA top chart of 2006): Keane is not the most exciting band in the world and this is no different on this album. They're ok but nothing more and only Broken Toy is better than your average Keane.
- Hell Hath No Fury by Clipse (nr 47): not my style
- Let's Get Out Of This Country by Camera Obscura (nr 48 ): I liked this album. It already starts well with a cute response to Lloyd Cole's Are You Ready To Be Heartbroken and it continues in the same interesting way after that.Definitely a good discovery.
- The Sufferer & The Witness by Rise Against (nr 49): I can't imagine more cliché punk than this.
- Amputechture by The Mars Volta (nr 50): I really tried to get into the first albums of this band and I never succeeded. An this one is as pompous and without any content whatsoever as those other two. I guess I'll never become a fan of theirs.
- The Dance Of The Moon And The Sun by Na... Buildings (nr 51): If I was a bit quiet these last days, this is the reason: I listened to the full two and a half hours of this album and I can't say I didn't like it. But people say you get in trance after a while of listening to the album but it didn't happen to me. There was too much change in the droning to obtain this effect for me while on the other hand it is just plainly too long. So finally: no, not for me and not enough to make me want to listen to it a second time (but of course you never know).
- Magic Potion by The Black Keys (nr 51): I liked Rubber Factory but this album again stresses their weakness: as a two man band they just don't succeed in getting enough variety in their songs.
- I'm Like A Virgin Losing A Child by Man... Orchestra (nr 52 on the overall BEA top chart of 2006 and the last 2006 album to obtain an overall rank better than 2500): this indie emo is a bit too juvenile for my taste.

And this ends my journey into albums of 2006. There's many albums I like of this year outside the highest ranks but I didn't discover a lot of new albums in the top 52. This must be one of the only years where I don't really like any of the albums of the overall top 10.

This is my final list with at the start the overall BEA rank and after that the BEA year rank and then my personal rank of the year before and after this listening session:

BEA Rank Title By Band BEA YearRank - My Rank before To My Rank after
1185 Eyes Open By Snow Patrol 19 - 1 To 1
3475 A Matter Of Life And Death By Iron Maiden 86 - 2 To 2
3392 You In Reverse By Built To Spill 82 - 3 To 3
34144 THX Jhn By Johan 969 - 4 To 4
3148 Rather Ripped By Sonic Youth 73 - 5 To 5
2509 Blood Visions By Jay Reatard 54 - 6 To 6
447 Stadium Arcadium By Red Hot Chili Peppers 8 - 7 To 7
15908 Never Hear The End Of It By Sloan 448 - 8 To 8
43667 Blues And Boogie Shoes By Keene Brothers 1160 - 9 To 9
589 The Crane Wife By The Decemberists 13 - To listen To 10
2036 Destroyer's Rubies By Destroyer 44 - To listen To 11
52734 Flat-pack Filosophy By Buzzcocks 1390 - 10 To 12
54096 The Alarmist By Dear Leader 1432 - 12 To 13
161 Black Holes And Revelations By Muse 2 - 11 To 14
2253 Let's Get Out Of This Country By Camera Obscura 48 - To listen To 15
55486 Technology Won't Save Us By Sophia 1466 - 13 To 16
704 First Impressions Of Earth By The Strokes 15 - 14 To 17
1360 Carnavas By Silversun Pickups 26 - 15 To 18
1020 The Life Pursuit By Belle And Sebastian 17 - 16 To 19
7120 Victory For The Comic Muse By The Divine Comedy 185 - 17 To 20
44459 Born In The UK By Badly Drawn Boy 1182 - 18 To 21
60207 Suite XVI By The Stranglers 1592 - 19 To 22
24857 The Lemonheads By The Lemonheads 720 - 20 To 23
8641 The Cost By The Frames 228 - 21 To 24
9382 No Love Lost By The Rifles 247 - 22 To 25
31166 Puzzles Like You By Mojave 3 884 - 23 To 26
6931 Just Like The Fambly Cat By Grandaddy 180 - 24 To 27
1385 Everything All The Time By Band Of Horses 27 - To listen To 28
66192 IV By Veruca Salt 1735 - 25 To 29
1403 Begin To Hope By Regina Spektor 29 - To listen To 30
1567 Mr Beast By Mogwai 32 - To listen To 31
58963 Blowoff By Blowoff 1555 - 27 To 32
16427 Keys To The World By Richard Ashcroft 462 - 26 To 33
315 The Devil And God Are Raging Inside Me By Brand New 5 - 28 To 34
15137 Living With War By Neil Young 423 - 29 To 35
24131 The Spell By The Black Heart Procession 702 - 30 To 36
4195 I Am Not Afraid Of You And I Will Beat Your Ass By Yo La Tengo 96 - 31 To 37
1268 Costello Music By The Fratellis 23 - 32 To 38
1434 Broken Boy Soldiers By The Raconteurs 30 - 33 To 39
40474 My Dark Places By Television Personalities 1090 - 34 To 40
72259 Wilderness Is Paradise Now By Morning Runner 1889 - 35 To 41
22466 Other People's Lives By Ray Davies 653 - 36 To 42
29007 One Cure Fits It All By Therapy? 829 - 37 To 43
79592 Songs And Other Things By Tom Verlaine 2077 - 38 To 44
7628 Dreamt For Light Years In The Belly Of A Mountain By Sparklehorse 200 - 39 To 45
78902 Wolves By My Latest Novel 2053 - 40 To 46
45 Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not By Arctic Monkeys 1 - 41 To 47
1291 The Trials Of Van Occupanther By Midlake 24 - 42 To 48
19094 Jarvis By Jarvis Cocker 551 - 43 To 49
5349 Nux Vomica By The Veils 123 - 44 To 50

The next year to listen to (after skipping another 5 years) is 2011.
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#456 | Posted: 03/12/2018 21:51 | Post subject: 2011 (1) Reply with quote
And here is already the list of albums to listen to (or already listened) of 2011 with a the start the BEA overall rank and after that the BEA year rank and than my personal rank before another set of listening sessions (or to listen):

BEA Rank Title By Band BEA YearRank - My Rank before
189 Bon Iver, Bon Iver By Bon Iver 1 - To listen
214 Helplessness Blues By Fleet Foxes 2 - Already listened
298 The Smile Sessions By The Beach Boys 3 - To listen
349 The King Of Limbs By Radiohead 4 - 54
372 El Camino By The Black Keys 5 - To listen
373 Let England Shake By P.J. Harvey 6 - 56
495 21 By Adele 7 - To listen
507 Hurry Up, We're Dreaming By M83 8 - To listen
516 Wasting Light By Foo Fighters 9 - 24
597 Kaputt By Destroyer 10 - To listen
730 Strange Mercy By St. Vincent 11 - To listen
808 James Blake By James Blake 12 - Already listened
825 Suck It And See By Arctic Monkeys 13 - 38
849 Ceremonials By Florence And The Machine 14 - 50
855 Section.80 By Kendrick Lamar 15 - To listen
899 Angles By The Strokes 16 - 45
905 Torches By Foster The People 17 - To listen
906 Exmilitary By Death Grips 18 - To listen
973 Burst Apart By The Antlers 19 - To listen
1028 Father, Son, Holy Ghost By Girls 20 - 30
1098 Yuck By Yuck 21 - 1
1112 What Did You Expect From The Vaccines? By The Vaccines 22 - 3
1157 Mylo Xyloto By Coldplay 23 - 40
1166 The King is Dead By The Decemberists 24 - To listen
1181 Take Care By Drake 25 - To listen
1323 50 Words For Snow By Kate Bush 26 - To listen
1369 My Head Is An Animal By Of Monsters And Men 27 - To listen
1375 Ravedeath, 1972 By Tim Hecker 28 - To listen
1404 The English Riviera By Metronomy 29 - To listen
1451 Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds By Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds 30 - To listen
1533 House Of Balloons By The Weeknd 31 - To listen
1624 Watch The Throne By Jay-Z & Kanye West 32 - To listen
1646 w h o k i l l By tUnE-YaRdS 33 - To listen
1769 Days By Real Estate 34 - 35
1782 Knife Man By Andrew Jackson Jihad 35 - To listen
1788 XXX By Danny Brown 36 - To listen
1811 Born This Way By Lady Gaga 37 - To listen
1827 Black Up By Shabazz Palaces 38 - To listen
2026 Replica By Oneohtrix Point Never 39 - To listen
2047 Bad As Me By Tom Waits 40 - Already listened
2061 Smoke Ring For My Halo By Kurt Vile 41 - To listen
2079 Space Is Only Noise By Nicolas Jaar 42 - To listen
2140 The Rip Tide By Beirut 43 - To listen
2160 Every Kingdom By Ben Howard 44 - To listen
2214 The Year Of Hibernation By Youth Lagoon 45 - To listen
2230 Dive By Tycho 46 - To listen
2240 Biophilia By Bjork 47 - To listen
2251 Twin Fantasy By Car Seat Headrest 48 - 20
2282 Giles Corey By Giles Corey 49 - To listen
2346 Hardcore Will Never Die, But You Will By Mogwai 50 - To listen
2428 Grace For Drowning By Steven Wilson 51 - To listen
2442 Velociraptor! By Kasabian 52 - To listen
2474 The Whole Love By Wilco 53 - 4
2482 An Empty Bliss Beyond This World By The Caretaker 54 - To listen
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#457 | Posted: 03/12/2018 21:52 | Post subject: Reply with quote
That BEA top 10 for 2006 doesn't have a whole lot I'm interested in - I like Newsom and am meaning to check out Donuts, but it seems like a pretty weak list overall.

45 Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not By Arctic Monkeys 1 - 41
160 Black Holes And Revelations By Muse 2 - 11
196 Ys By Joanna Newsom 3 - To listen
244 Back To Black By Amy Winehouse 4 - To listen
314 The Devil And God Are Raging Inside Me By Brand New 5 - 28
362 Sam's Town By The Killers 6 - To listen
388 The Black Parade By My Chemical Romance 7 - To listen
442 Stadium Arcadium By Red Hot Chili Peppers 8 - 7
483 10,000 Days By Tool 9 - To listen
527 Donuts By J Dilla 10 - To listen
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#458 | Posted: 03/23/2018 21:15 | Post subject: 2011 (2) Reply with quote
Finally a start of albums of 2011 I listened to:
- Bon Iver, Bon Iver by Bon Iver (nr 1): more lushy produced version of the first album but the fact that this album is the number one of 2011 says a lot about the quality of the year 2011.
- El Camino by The Black Keys (nr 6): I always start listening to Black Keys albums with a lot of prejudices: 2 piece band with not a lot of variety etc blah blah blah but this album was not too bad especially because of two tracks: Lonely Boy and Little Black Submarines (compared many times to Bohemian Rhapsody).
- 21 by Adele (nr 7): I don't like her voice or her songs
- Hurry Up, We're Dreaming by M83 (nr 8 ): this album has the same order of grandeur that ex Arcade Fire has and some of the tracks are not bad but it's not album that I would give a second listen.
- Kaputt by Destroyer (nr 10): I was nearly tempted to like this album but overall the quality of the songs is not completely up to speed.
- Strange Mercy by St. Vincent (nr 11),
Section.80 by Kendrick Lamar (nr 14),
Exmilitary by Death Grips (nr 16), Torches by Foster The People (nr 17),Burst Apart by The Antlers (nr 19), Take Care by Drake (nr 25): all of them not really my thing

The next album to listen to is Ravedeath 1972 by Tim Hecker
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#459 | Posted: 03/25/2018 16:48 | Post subject: 2011 (3) Reply with quote
I've got more than 60 albums in my personal chart of this year but most of them are not from the BEA top 2500: this year seems so dominated by pop and ambient-like music so I'm gonna be fairly short:
- My Head Is An Animal by Of Monsters And Men (nr 27), Ravedeath, 1972 by Tim Hecker (nr 28 ), The English Riviera by Metronomy (nr 29) are all not my thing
- Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds by N...ying Birds (nr 30): but this album surprised me in a good way: it's not as bombastic as your average Oasis and the good song writing skills seeps through in every single track. A very good solo album and better than most Oasis albums.
- House Of Balloons by The Weeknd (nr 31), w h o k i l l by Tune-Yards (nr 32), Watch The Throne by Jay-Z & Kanye West (nr 33), XXX by Danny Brown (nr 34), Born This Way by Lady Gaga (nr 35), Black Up by Shabazz Palaces (nr 38 ), Replica by Oneohtrix Point Never nr 39), Space Is Only Noise by Nicolas Jaar (nr 41): are all not my thing

but there was this strange one:
- Knife Man by AJJ (nr 37): Andrew Jackson Jihad who changed his name in 2006 to AJJ is a strange guy and definitely has got his issues but some of the songs on this album are so honest you just have to appreciate this. Currently this album won't be very high in my top chart but I want to include it anyway because I think it might be a grower (not completely comparable but a way in the sense of Daniel Johnston).

The next album to listen to is Smoke Ring For My Halo by Kurt Vile.
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#460 | Posted: 04/01/2018 20:26 | Post subject: 2011 (4) Reply with quote
This is already my last contribution for 2011:
- Smoke Ring For My Halo by Kurt Vile (nr 42 on the overall BEA top chart of 2011): I only knew Kurt Vile from his latest albums but this one of 2011 was already a good start.
- The Rip Tide by Beirut (nr 43): This is to me the best album of Beirut I've listened and there are even a few tunes here I actually like also because his voice is not playing the dominant role it has on other of the albums. Though still not completely my thing
- Every Kingdom by Ben Howard (nr 44): not completely my thing
- Biophilia by Björk (nr 45): this must be Bjork at her least musical. I'm already not a big fan of her so certainly not this album.
- The Year Of Hibernation by Youth Lagoon (nr 46): not my thing
- Dive by Tycho (nr 47): more bleeps in this year of bleeps which don't go anywhere
- Giles Corey by Giles Corey (nr 48 ): well what can I say: don't listen to it if you are feeling depressed because it's scary and indeed depressing. Musically there are some moving pieces on it but overall I don't know: On the one hand it is moving on the other hand it's on the wrong side of self loathing and misery in the wrongest sense possible so no, not for me.
- Hardcore Will Never Die, But You Will by Mogwai (nr 50): not one of the best Mogwai albums so I finally decided not to include it in my 2011 top chart
- Grace For Drowning by Steven Wilson (nr 51): and the same goes for this album. I normally listen to Steven Wilson twice and in many cases I get them the second time but I don't think I will for this one: just a bit too much noodling for my taste
- An Empty Bliss Beyond This World by The Caretaker (nr 52): there might be a certain interesting concept behind this album but finally it comes down to very old uninteresting music
- Velociraptor! by Kasabian (nr 53 and the last album in the 2011 BEA top chart with an overall BEA rank better than 2500): it has some links to the madchester sound but there are many bands which have made much better albums round that time. Not really inspired.

And this end my journey through the year 2011, for me not the best year in music especially as far as the albums ranked 2500 or better are concerned (as you will notice hereunder). This is the final list of the year with at the start the BEA overall rank and after that the BEA year rank and my personal year rank before and after this listening session:

BEA Rank Title By Band BEA YearRank - My Rank before To My Rank after
1108 Yuck By Yuck 21 - 1 To 1
3981 David Comes To Life By Fucked Up 102 - 2 To 2
1122 What Did You Expect From The Vaccines? By The Vaccines 22 - 3 To 3
2448 The Whole Love By Wilco 52 - 4 To 4
7506 Veronica Falls By Veronica Falls 196 - 5 To 5
24430 Leave Home By The Men 708 - 6 To 6
35008 Riot Now! By Eleventh Dream Day 1073 - 7 To 7
37561 Skins By Buffalo Tom 1156 - 10 To 8
25450 Quid Pro Quo By Status Quo 748 - 8 To 10
25206 Let It Beard By Boston Spaceships 734 - 9 To 9
20891 Here Before By The Feelies 590 - 11 To 11
16662 Mirror Traffic By Stephen Malkmus and the Jicks 454 - 12 To 12
52099 Firecracker/Cloudglow By Cannon Bros. 1640 - 13 To 13
52649 Sweet Defeat By Jon Allen 1657 - 15 To 14
17735 Cloud Nothings By Cloud Nothings 496 - 14 To 15
55764 Waving At The Astronauts By Lifeguards 1753 - 19 To 16
44357 Last Words: The Final Recordings By Screaming Trees 1394 - 18 To 17
26543 Into The Murky Water By The Leisure Society 775 - 17 To 18
6837 Several Shades Of Why By J Mascis 174 - 16 To 19
2352 Twin Fantasy By Car Seat Headrest 49 - 20 To 20
1458 Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds By Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds 30 - To listen To 21
26797 Let's Go Eat The Factory By Guided By Voices 784 - 21 To 22
47881 Feed 'Em With A Brick By Channel Zero 1511 - 22 To 23
33336 Lord Of The Birdcage By Robert Pollard 1009 - 23 To 24
513 Wasting Light By Foo Fighters 9 - 24 To 25
4081 Belong By The Pains Of Being Pure At Heart 105 - 25 To 26
22603 Keep You Close By dEUS 648 - 26 To 27
3882 Collapse Into Now By R.E.M. 97 - 27 To 28
51352 Moody, Standard And Poor By Obits 1612 - 28 To 29
32633 In Love With Oblivion By Crystal Stilts 972 - 29 To 30
1037 Father, Son, Holy Ghost By Girls 20 - 30 To 31
61744 Funny Looking Angels By Smith & Burrows 1946 - 31 To 32
19008 Fallen Empires By Snow Patrol 527 - 32 To 33
46511 Endless Now By Male Bonding 1460 - 33 To 34
23574 Dynamite Steps By The Twilight Singers 678 - 34 To 35
1774 Days By Real Estate 36 - 35 To 36
3738 Past Life Martyred Saints By EMA 91 - 36 To 37
23921 Beyond Magnetic By Metallica 692 - 37 To 38
833 Suck It And See By Arctic Monkeys 14 - 38 To 39
8751 Demolished Thoughts By Thurston Moore 218 - 39 To 40
1170 Mylo Xyloto By Coldplay 23 - 40 To 41
6279 The Future Is Medieval By Kaiser Chiefs 165 - 41 To 42
56593 All Is Chaos By Steak Number Eight 1772 - 42 To 43
72953 Space City Kicks By Robert Pollard 2289 - 43 To 44
33692 Dancer Equired By Times New Viking 1023 - 44 To 45
917 Angles By The Strokes 18 - 45 To 46
2102 Smoke Ring For My Halo By Kurt Vile 42 - To listen To 47
42652 The Double Cross By Sloan 1334 - 46 To 48
75898 Immaculada By The Men 2377 - 47 To 49
3257 Slave Ambient By The War On Drugs 81 - 48 To 50
12185 I Am Very Far By Okkervil River 298 - 49 To 51
820 Ceremonials By Florence And The Machine 13 - 50 To 52
5729 Anna Calvi By Anna Calvi 149 - 51 To 53
372 El Camino By The Black Keys 5 - To listen To 54
48028 Napa Asylum By Sic Alps 1519 - 52 To 55
5588 New Brigade By Iceage 145 - 53 To 56
1837 Knife Man By Andrew Jackson Jihad 38 - To listen To 57
350 The King Of Limbs By Radiohead 4 - 54 To 58
2553 Build A Rocket Boys! By Elbow 55 - 55 To 59
376 Let England Shake By P.J. Harvey 6 - 56 To 60
2676 I'm With You By Red Hot Chili Peppers 63 - 57 To 61
30922 Smart Flesh By The Low Anthem 908 - 58 To 62
84061 SYR9: Simon Werner A Disparu By Sonic Youth 2575 - 59 To 63

So finally another 5 year leap to end up in 2016.
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