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#31 | Posted: 12/03/2018 04:32 | Post subject: Reply with quote
Just saw "Widows" a couple days ago, and I was very impressed. Pretty much all of what Skinny said was spot on.

Here's one gripe I would have though, which could catch me some flak. Spoilers (but not really I saw it coming a mile away).

The way in which their son died felt tacked on. This was not a movie about police brutality. Having the cops be the reason for the their son's death pushes the blame on the police instead of on Neeson's character. The death was the central conflict in Davis' and Neeson's relationship (besides the criminal activity), so it would have made more sense to have had some rival gang gun him down when they recognized his car or something. I think that just because it's the current political climate in America that Mcqueen added it on. In a movie that is already conceptually and thematically convoluted, this felt like shoehorned in discourse.
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#32 | Posted: 12/05/2018 01:47 | Post subject: Reply with quote
I saw Widows yesterday and Skinny's analysis was pretty accurate. Great film.

As for Rocka's plot issue, I agree that point could've been stronger, and I agree with Rocka's suggestion on how that could've been better scripted. But it was such a minor plot point, I don't think it brought the movie down by any means.

On another note, I thought our friend from Windsor would have reacted to Sunday night's post regarding Roma's Oscar campaign, haha.
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#33 | Posted: 12/05/2018 17:12 | Post subject: Reply with quote
StreetSpirit wrote:

On another note, I thought our friend from Windsor would have reacted to Sunday night's post regarding Roma's Oscar campaign, haha.


Is that me? Laughing (haven't lived there in a while). I'm actually living in Mexico City right now, and Roma's playing on screens... well... almost everywhere. It's massive. So many posters you'd think it's a Marvel film. Almost every show across the city is sold out until December 14th (Netflix day).

It actually began playing here early-September in some smaller theatres that I think are run by people who personally know Cuaron. The reception's been ecstatic.

The Oscars are looking like A Star Is Born Vs Roma Vs Green Book at this point. Bit of a loose year. The fact Roma could pull this off is kinda exciting, but I can't help but feel the Oscars will side with Cooper. Haven't seen The Favourite yet, but man am I looking forward to it.
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#34 | Posted: 12/05/2018 20:31 | Post subject: Reply with quote
Hayden wrote:
StreetSpirit wrote:

On another note, I thought our friend from Windsor would have reacted to Sunday night's post regarding Roma's Oscar campaign, haha.


Is that me? Laughing (haven't lived there in a while). I'm actually living in Mexico City right now, and Roma's playing on screens... well... almost everywhere. It's massive. So many posters you'd think it's a Marvel film. Almost every show across the city is sold out until December 14th (Netflix day).

It actually began playing here early-September in some smaller theatres that I think are run by people who personally know Cuaron. The reception's been ecstatic.

The Oscars are looking like A Star Is Born Vs Roma Vs Green Book at this point. Bit of a loose year. The fact Roma could pull this off is kinda exciting, but I can't help but feel the Oscars will side with Cooper. Haven't seen The Favourite yet, but man am I looking forward to it.

That's why I said "from Windsor." Seems like you've moved six times in the past two years, haha. I think I've seen you list France and Spain at some point.

Anyway, that's great that Roma is a smash hit in Mexico, but that's kinda to be expected since it's the director's home country. As for here in the states, it can only be a box-office hit if Netflix gives it a chance with a wider release, and there's a big enough audience for it. We'll see what they do. My guess is Netflix is gonna keep Roma pretty limited theatrically until Dec 14, but still wider than all their prior films. And I agree the Academy is more likely to go with A Star is Born (and I haven't seen either film). English-language musical vs. foreign-language anything...history is not on Roma's side. But I appreciate that Netflix is giving it a shot by pushing it harder in theaters than all their prior films. Hopefully they do more of that in the future.

Lastly, check out The Favourite and Widows. Both good.
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#35 | Posted: 12/05/2018 22:03 | Post subject: Reply with quote
StreetSpirit wrote:

That's why I said "from Windsor." Seems like you've moved six times in the past two years, haha. I think I've seen you list France and Spain at some point.

Anyway, that's great that Roma is a smash hit in Mexico, but that's kinda to be expected since it's the director's home country. As for here in the states, it can only be a box-office hit if Netflix gives it a chance with a wider release, and there's a big enough audience for it. We'll see what they do. My guess is Netflix is gonna keep Roma pretty limited theatrically until Dec 14, but still wider than all their prior films. And I agree the Academy is more likely to go with A Star is Born (and I haven't seen either film). English-language musical vs. foreign-language anything...history is not on Roma's side. But I appreciate that Netflix is giving it a shot by pushing it harder in theaters than all their prior films. Hopefully they do more of that in the future.

Lastly, check out The Favourite and Widows. Both good.


Yeah, I've been hopping around for a bit... been in Mexico the past few months though. It's been cool. Great place.

And the Cannes vs Netflix case becomes a little more prominent with this decision. The only reason Roma wasn't in competition at Cannes was specifically because Netflix didn't want to release it in theatres, so clearly there's been some talks at HQ about distribution models.

A Star Is Born def landed above my expectations. It feels like a big film, you know? Crazy confident for a debut directing/acting pair (albeit still a very experienced duo). Cooper's work behind the camera is genuinely impressive, and it's my favourite role I've seen him take on. A year back I figured it'd be a mess for sure, but it comes together quite nicely. Music's not half-bad either. Can't really say it has many faults, but unless you count excessive vulgarity, it lacks a little left-fieldism. The first half in particular is surprisingly strong, and Sam Elliott gets some great (but limited) screen time. It's rather tame and standard compared to The Shape of Water, Moonlight or Birdman, but I'm leaning towards the Academy going for it over Roma.

Being said, I think the Academy's doing ok right now. Ten years ago I don't think Roma would've stood a chance, and something like Green Book would basically have it bagged. The fact it's in discussion is pretty cool.

Golden Globe noms are announced tomorrow (I believe), so that'll probably solidify a few things. A Star Is Born somehow slipped into drama opposed to a musical, but whatever (it's kinda on a line in-between). Hoping to see Ethan Hawke and Hugh Grant get deserving noms... not sure if they'll make it to the Oscars. It's been a good year for 'smaller' films.
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#36 | Posted: 12/06/2018 16:55 | Post subject: Reply with quote
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Hoping to see Ethan Hawke and Hugh Grant get deserving noms...


Sad

No love for Paddington 2 or First Reformed at all.

Or Widows Neutral

And Atlanta's still the best thing on TV.
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#37 | Posted: 12/06/2018 18:59 | Post subject: Reply with quote
Hayden wrote:
Sad

No love for Paddington 2 or First Reformed at all.

Or Widows Neutral

And Atlanta's still the best thing on TV.


Widows and First Reformed shut out, ugh. What else? The GGs aren't a clear indicator of what will be nominated for the big awards, but they're still somewhat foreshadowing. I don't know. Glancing over these noms and what they may suggest for the next round, I find myself more estranged from these award shows every year. Are the awards changing or am I changing? Never mind, let's not talk about that. Black Panther and BlacKkKlansman are nominated for the same award. Wait, let's not talk about that either. It's too sickening. Oh and A Star is Born isn't a musical. If this list of noms was published by The Onion, I would've believed it was a joke and laughed my ass off. But no, this is actually for real. Here's the full list, provided by Villain:

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The 2019 Golden Globe Nominees

MOTION PICTURES

Best Motion Picture – Drama


Black Panther
Marvel Studios; Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures

BlacKkKlansman
QC Entertainment / Blumhouse / Monkeypaw / 40 Acres and a Mule; Focus Features

Bohemian Rhapsody
Twentieth Century Fox / Regency Enterprises; Twentieth Century Fox

If Beale Street Could Talk
Annapurna Pictures / Plan B Entertainment / We Pastel; Annapurna Pictures

A Star Is Born
Warner Bros. Pictures / Live Nation Productions / Metro Goldwyn Mayer Pictures / Jon Peters Production / Bill Gerber Production / Joint Effort Production; Warner Bros. Pictures

Best Motion Picture – Musical or Comedy

Crazy Rich Asians
Warner Bros. Pictures / SK Global / Starlight Culture / Color Force / Ivanhoe Pictures / Electric Somewhere; Warner Bros. Pictures

The Favorite
Element Pictures / Scarlet Films / Film4 / Waypoint Entertainment; Fox Searchlight Pictures

Green Book
Participant Media / DreamWorks Pictures; Universal Pictures

Mary Poppins Returns
Walt Disney Pictures; Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures

Vice
Annapurna Pictures / Gary Sanchez Productions / Plan B Entertainment; Annapurna Pictures

Best Motion Picture – Animated

Incredibles 2
Pixar Animation Studios; Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures

Isle of Dogs
Indian Paintbrush / American Empirical Pictures; Fox Searchlight Pictures

Mirai
Studio Chizu; GKIDS

Ralph Breaks the Internet
Walt Disney Animation Studios; Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures

Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Columbia Pictures / Sony Pictures Animation; Sony Pictures Releasing

Best Motion Picture – Foreign Language

Capernaum (Lebanon)
Mooz Films; Sony Pictures Classics

Girl (Belgium)
Menuet / Topkapi Films / Frakas Productions; Netflix

Never Look Away (Germany)
Pergamon Film / Wiedemann & Berg Film / in coproduction with Beta Cinema / ARD Degeto / Bayrischer Rundfunk; Sony Pictures Classics

Roma (Mexico)
Netflix / Participant Media / Esperanto-Filmoj; Netflix

Shoplifters (Japan)
Gaga / AOI Promotion / Fuji Television Network; Magnolia Pictures

Best Performance by an Actress in a Motion Picture – Drama

Glenn Close, The Wife
Lady Gaga, A Star Is Born
Nicole Kidman, Destroyer
Melissa McCarthy, Can You Ever Forgive Me?
Rosamund Pike, A Private War

Best Performance by an Actor in a Motion Picture – Drama

Bradley Cooper, A Star Is Born
Willem Dafoe, At Eternity’s Gate
Lucas Hedges, Boy Erased
Rami Malek, Bohemian Rhapsody
John David Washington, BlacKkKlansman

Best Performance by an Actress in a Motion Picture – Musical or Comedy

Emily Blunt, Mary Poppins Returns
Olivia Colman, The Favourite
Elsie Fisher, Eighth Grade
Charlize Theron, Tully
Constance Wu, Crazy Rich Asians

Best Performance by an Actor in a Motion Picture – Musical or Comedy

Christian Bale, Vice
Lin-Manuel Miranda, Mary Poppins Returns
Viggo Mortensen, Green Book
Robert Redford, The Old Man & The Gun
John C. Reilly, Stan & Ollie

Best Performance by an Actress in a Supporting Role in any Motion Picture

Amy Adams, Vice
Claire Foy, First Man
Regina King, If Beale Street Could Talk
Emma Stone, The Favourite
Rachel Weisz, The Favourite

Best Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role in any Motion Picture

Mahershala Ali, Green Book
Timothee Chalamet, Beautiful Boy
Richard E. Grant, Can You Ever Forgive Me?
Sam Rockwell, Vice
Adam Driver, BlacKkKlansman

Best Director – Motion Picture

Bradley Cooper, A Star Is Born
Alfonso Cuaron, Roma
Peter Farrelly, Green Book
Spike Lee, BlacKkKlansman
Adam McKay, Vice

Best Screenplay – Motion Picture

Alfonso Cuaron, Roma
Deborah Davis, Tony McNamara, The Favourite
Barry Jenkins, If Beale Street Could Talk
Adam McKay, Vice
Nick Vallelonga, Brian Currie, Peter Farrelly, Green Book

Best Original Score – Motion Picture

Marcy Beltrami, A Quiet Place
Alexandre Desplat, Isle Of Dogs
Ludwig Goransson, Black Panther
Justin Hurwitz, First Man
Marc Shaiman, Mary Poppins Returns

Best Original Song – Motion Picture

“All The Stars,” Black Panther
Music by: Kendrick Lamar, Anthony Tiffith, Mark Spears, Solana Rowe, Al Shuckburgh
Lyrics by: Kendrick Lamar, Anthony Tiffith, Mark Spears, Solana Rowe, Al Shuckburgh

“Girl in the Movies,” Dumplin’
Music by: Dolly Parton, Linda Perry
Lyrics by: Dolly Parton, Linda Perry

“Requiem For A Private War,” A Private War
Music by: Annie Lennox
Lyrics by: Annie Lennox

“Revelation,” Boy Erased
Music by: Troye Sivan, Jónsi
Lyrics by: Jon Thor Birgisson, Troye Sivan, Brett McLaughlin

“Shallow,” A Star Is Born
Music by: Lady Gaga, Mark Ronson, Anthony Rossomando, Andrew Wyatt
Lyrics by: Lady Gaga, Mark Ronson, Anthony Rossomando, Andrew Wyatt

TELEVISION

Best Television Series – Drama


The Americans (FX Networks)
Fox 21 Television Studios / FX Productions

Bodyguard (Netflix)
World Productions / an ITV Studios company

Homecoming (Amazon Prime Video)
Universal Cable Productions LLA / Amazon Studios

Killing Eve (BBC America)
BBC AMERICA / Sid Gentle Films Ltd

Pose (FX Networks)
Fox 21 Television Studios / FX Productions

Best Television Series – Musical or Comedy

Barry (HBO)
HBO Entertainment / Alec Berg / Hanarply

The Good Place (NBC)
Universal Television / Fremulon / 3 Arts Entertainment

Kidding (Showtime)
SHOWTIME / SOME KIND OF GARDEN / Aggregate Films / Broadlawn Films

The Kominsky Method (Netflix)
Warner Bros. Television

The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel (Amazon Prime Video)
Amazon Studios

Best Television Limited Series or Motion Picture Made for Television

The Alienist (TNT)
The Alienist / Paramount Television / Turner’s Studio T

The Assassination of Gianni Versace (FX Networks)
Fox 21 Television Studios / FX Productions

Escape at Dannemora (Showtime)
SHOWTIME / Red Hour Productions / Michael De Luca Productions / The White Mountain Company / BZ Entertainment / Busyhands

Sharp Objects (HBO)
HBO Entertainment / eOne / Tiny Pyro Productions / Blumhouse Television / Fourth Born / crazyrose Productions

A Very English Scandal (Amazon Prime Video)
Blueprint / Amazon Studios

Best Performance by an Actress in a Limited Series or Motion Picture Made for Television

Amy Adams, Sharp Objects
Patricia Arquette, Escape at Dannemora
Connie Britton, Dirty John
Laura Dern, The Tale
Regina King, Seven Seconds

Best Performance by an Actor in a Limited Series or Motion Picture Made for Television

Antonio Banderas, Genius: Picasso
Daniel Bruel, The Alienist
Darren Criss, The Assassination of Gianni Versace
Benedict Cumberbatch, Patrick Melrose
Hugh Grant, A Very English Scandal

Best Performance by an Actress In A Television Series – Drama

Caitriona Balfe, Outlander
Elisabeth Moss, The Handmaid’s Tale
Sandra Oh, Killing Eve
Julia Roberts, Homecoming
Keri Russell, The Americans

Best Performance by an Actor In A Television Series – Drama

Jason Bateman, Ozark
Stephan James, Homecoming
Richard Madden, Bodyguard
Billy Porter, Pose
Matthew Rhys, The Americans

Best Performance by an Actress in a Television Series – Musical or Comedy

Kristen Bell, The Good Place
Candice Bergen, Murphy Brown
Alison Brie, GLOW
Rachel Brosnahan, The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel
Debra Messing, Will & Grace

Best Performance by an Actor in a Television Series – Musical or Comedy

Sacha Baron Cohen, Who Is America
Jim Carrey, Kidding
Michael Douglas, The Kominsky Method
Donald Glover, Atlanta
Bill Hader, Barry

Best Performance by an Actress in a Supporting Role in a Series, Limited Series or Motion Picture Made for Television

Alex Bornstein, The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel
Patricia Clarkson, Sharp Objects
Penelope Cruz, The Assassination of Gianni Versace
Thandie Newton, Westworld
Yvonne Strahovski, The Handmaid’s Tale

Best Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role in a Series, Limited Series or Motion Picture Made for Television

Alan Arkin, The Kominsky Method
Kieran Culkin, Succession
Edgar Ramirez, The Assassination of Gianni Versace
Ben Whishaw, A Very English Scandal
Henry Winkler, Barry

What are your thoughts on the Golden Globes nominations for this year? Any snubs stand out to you?


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#38 | Posted: 12/06/2018 20:14 | Post subject: Reply with quote
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And Atlanta's still the best thing on TV.


By fucking miles.
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#39 | Posted: 12/06/2018 20:57 | Post subject: Reply with quote
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By fucking miles.


I'll double down on that statement as well.

Teddy Perkins kept me up for weeks.
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#40 | Posted: 12/06/2018 20:58 | Post subject: Reply with quote
Hayden wrote:
Sad

No love for Paddington 2 or First Reformed at all.

Or Widows Neutral

And Atlanta's still the best thing on TV.



With the golden globes all that matters is what's being passed under the table
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