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Tha1ChiefRocka
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...that's not very groundbreaking, but I'd like to hear some other's thoughts on.

Because of the steady decline of Rock in the popular music zeitgeist over the last decade, it has allowed for the genre to rediscover some of the qualities that made it great in the first place.

Has rock music benefitted from not being the focal point anymore, or does any of it really matter anyway? Neutral
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Can you sketch out your argument a little more? What are the qualities that made it great and what causes you to think are they returning?
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baystateoftheart wrote:
Can you sketch out your argument a little more? What are the qualities that made it great and what causes you to think are they returning?


-> energy
-> fun
-> chaos
-> danger/excitement
-> the unexpected

exhibit A ....


Nonagon Infinity by King Gizzard & ...ard Wizard
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Tilly wrote:
-> energy
-> fun
-> chaos
-> danger/excitement
-> the unexpected

exhibit A ....


Nonagon Infinity by King Gizzard & ...ard Wizard


Couldn't have said it better myself.

After the Post Grunge and Nu Metal/Hard Rock boom of the late 90s and early 00's, I think rock music was reeling. Emo and Indie rock were riding high for awhile in the 00's, but at the outset of this decade, it wasn't looking very good. And, as other genres like hip hop started to gain a more broad audience, it became less of a commercially viable genre of music. Of course there are still bands like Muse and Arctic Monkeys out there that can sell out an arena, but nothing like it used to be. This means there's less pressure on rock bands to "make it big" with a hit.

So, I think bands like King Gizzard or the Oh Sees have this opportunity that bands in the past didn't quite have. They retain all of there creative freedom while having a steady fanbase of people who love to consume music.

I'm kind of rambling here, but yeah, something along these lines.
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My first thought is the Romanelli thought... but is it good?

I think there's some kind of rules of aesthetics that good artists follow, regardless of medium/genre, that make something "good".

Having said that, perhaps another way to say what you are saying, is when you are desensitized or inundated with the same thing over and over, it "wears out it's welcome" so to speak. And yeah, if you got burned out on the rock medium, and "even the best" did nothing for you, then it probably was more than you were desensitized or inundated. You of course just means humanity at large.

Then there's fads, right... but I don't pay much attention to those.

Lastly, there's good and shit rock throughout all time, but I'll agree there's those "moments" in history where they especially are low or are especially high... or perhaps easy to find and hard to find.
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I get what Rocka is saying. I think it's not only because of the general lack of mainstream exposure but also the fact that the bands and artists can connect with their fans online and so they can release "their own sh*t" as long fans like it and keep streaming and going to their concert, with no need to follow any standard (apart from what the majority of their fans ask them to follow) or to reach most radio stations which they won't reach anyway.
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Tilly wrote:
-> energy
-> fun
-> chaos
-> danger/excitement
-> the unexpected


Sounds more like you're describing jazz than rock music -- are any of these elements actually all that essential to the works of Chuck Berry, T. Rex, or Led Zeppelin as a constant? Certainly all have had moments of relative "chaos" or the "unexpected" but I'm not sure that that is a "defining" feature of rock music, is it?
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Tha1ChiefRocka wrote:
This means there's less pressure on rock bands to "make it big" with a hit.

Which is not necessarily a good thing. Hits are not everything, but I see them as a sign of good health of a genre
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BARDAMU wrote:
Tilly wrote:
-> energy
-> fun
-> chaos
-> danger/excitement
-> the unexpected


Sounds more like you're describing jazz than rock music -- are any of these elements actually all that essential to the works of Chuck Berry, T. Rex, or Led Zeppelin as a constant? Certainly all have had moments of relative "chaos" or the "unexpected" but I'm not sure that that is a "defining" feature of rock music, is it?


That's the point. Those elements have been missing for a long time. I'd say T. Rex, which would be one of my favorites, is a kind of chaos. Marc Bolan's lunatic ravings inspire as much.

Or this band, who released their second album this year. Loads of fun.


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