Increasing maximum chart sizes to 200 entries

[SD100852]

I was thinking if there might be a possibility soon where we can add up to 200 albums onto one chart? There has been a lot of great albums released since the website was first created and I was wondering if this could be a natural step forward so that releases can be added onto charts such as personal 'Greatest Albums of All Time' charts without needing to take any albums out if you've got 100, and it will also make more sense when adding in official rankings such as the Rolling Stone 500 greatest albums of all time chart.

Obviously it might take a bit of time to implement and probably should be included as something only members who have reached a certain level can do, but just thought I'd put it out there in case anyone else thinks this is a good idea

[albummaster]

Longer/larger charts are definitely something that people want (suggested before) and technically not difficult. However, limiting to 100 does force people to be selective with their choices, and helps prevent the database/mod team from being flooded. I appreciate that people are finding creative ways around this e.g. with continuation charts (charts containing albums 101-200 etc), and maybe this is something that could be made more of a feature of (e.g. allowing people to link/chain charts together more officially). Not sure precisely how this would work yet, but maybe allow people to add the ID of a 'previous' chart to a custom chart and optionally flag the chart as continuation so that ranks can be rendered to continue on from previous chart (or not, if it's just a pool of albums that didn't make the cut for previous chart etc). (The ranks in the continuation chart wouldn't be awarded any points etc).

[Arthurknight]

I think you resolve this very easily by giving custom charts a higher maximum. by doing this you get:
1. the long desired ability to make longer lists,
2. the ability to make a greatest albums continuation list that isn't spread across more than 2 charts (the current system is so agonising to manage when it comes to moving albums from, for example, 201 to 199),
3. you limit access to these massive charts to only those who have accumulated the points, and
4. you keep the default 100 limit greatest albums format, and maintain the existing overall chart aggregation system.

It actually makes quite little sense that the 100 limit has been imposed across the board, if, as you say, there is not technological limit.

[albummaster]

Agree that potentially we could have bigger custom charts - thanks for pointing out. However, in practice there would need to be some kind of upper limit - even for custom charts (flooding the database/moderation team & performance being the main concerns). I'm not against increasing the limit, but need to consider these factors if the limit is raised. I've seen continuation charts going up to 1,000 or more, which might be a bit too big to be able to edit comfortably (without re-writing the chart editor).

[Arthurknight]

[albummaster]

The current 'system' has grown organically with users finding their own workarounds to get bigger charts and this is why it has become clunky. I can definitely see that managing a super chart spanning multiple charts is unwieldy and moving entries up/down between charts extremely fiddly. I'd never foreseen that happening so didn't have anything up my sleeve to address it, but recognise it as an issue.

Ideally, I'd like to find a reasonably elegant solution that fits into how things work at the moment. However, it's quite a complex issue to fix, given what it needs to fit into (if that makes any sense). We can definitely say that continuation charts won't be completely solved by increasing the maximum chart length unless it was an impossibly high number, so still need to find a way of moving entries between charts (it's fairly trivial to join multiple charts together alluded to in a previous post). We could still go for bigger custom charts alongside.

[MadhattanJack]

I've already suggested making increased page sizes available when viewing charts (at least for higher-level members), but if you increase the maximum chart sizes without also allowing for higher page sizes... that's going to be really irritating.

[Hayden]

I'm cool with 100 ...


BUT— if it were to ever increase, I would opt for 250, and that denomination would solely be for the overall chart, not every decade, years, etc.

Think 100's great though.

[Arthurknight]

[albummaster]