Greatest Albums of All Time (Rock & Jazz)

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  • Posted: 07/10/2018 23:12
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Purely out of curiosity, is there any indication of a rating /10 for Scaruffi's Jazz selections?

As a rule of thumb, would it be safe to say that if it appears on his "best of the decade" then it's 8+, on up to 9.5 for the highest selections, Black Saint and A Love Supreme etc.?

Also, what's the rationale behind his main Jazz list of 163 records? It doesn't seem to have any correspondence to his decade lists (as he himself notes), just wondering what its purpose is.


Not much of an indication except for a small number of his selections that he happens to rate. I imagine that at some point he'll end up publishing his ratings for them. Based on my own ratings, it seems like the cut off point for his decades lists are probably 7.5 or 7.8 ... it seems like 80s/90s are more centered around a foundation of 7.5+ entries and then some 8s and 8.5s and maybe a few 9s. It seems probable that 60s and 70s are more centered around mainly higher ratings (8+ and featuring more 8.5s and 9s) and may not go below 7.8 (or maybe the very bottom entry or few is 7.5 and it quickly escalates to 8+ until he fills it out with many more 7.5s he hasnt added yet?)... the 40s and 50s are probably 7.5 on up... I doubt any of the 40s are above 8 and the 50s may have some 9s and 8.5s ... but this is all speculation based on my own assessments which (imo) are reliable for Jazz but not as reliable as they are (usually) for Rock -- my familiarity and speed of assimilation and listening experience is greater for Rock. There is no guarantee that even Black Saint and A Love Supreme are above 9 or any of those I list. I believe there is even an Annette Peacock page that lists Improvisie as 7/10 while I show it as a 9/10 (maybe 8.5) so who knows (whether I am correct about the 8.5/9 rating or not, it seems likely his 7 rating is outdated if he lists it #5 of the 70s). Etc... Anyway, you get the idea...

I have asked him if he plans on adding the ratings to Jazz and he replied "if I live long enough" Laughing

I assume his overall Jazz list is just an old version from years ago or a slapdash of his favorites somewhat randomly thrown onto the page (similar to the Film one).
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  • Posted: 08/18/2018 20:01
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What would you rate Church Gone Wild and Chirpin Hard separately?
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  • Posted: 08/18/2018 20:20
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What would you rate Church Gone Wild and Chirpin Hard separately?


Good question, its been too long since I revisited it -- which I need to do (also to ensure its overall rating isnt too low). So, roughly...

Church Gone Wild = possibly between 7.7 and 8.0

Chirpin Hard = maybe 6.0-6.5?
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  • Posted: 09/11/2018 21:35
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Recent updates...

FAMILIAR ROCK/JAZZ ALBUMS - RE-RATED:
Hex - Bark Psychosis (1994) 8.0/10 to 8.1/10
Destroy Me Lover - Pain Teens (1993) 8.0/10 to 8.1/10
Roxy Music - Roxy Music (1972) 8.0/10 to 8.1/10
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  • Posted: 09/23/2018 19:51
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FAMILIAR ROCK/JAZZ ALBUMS - RE-RATED:
Trout Mask Replica - Captain Beefheart (1969) 9.4/10 to 9.5/10
Rock Bottom - Robert Wyatt (1974) 9.4/10 to 9.5/10
Ys - Joanna Newsom (2006) 8.8/10 to 8.9/10
Good - Morphine (1992) 8.0/10 to 8.3/10
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Which version of The Clash do you prefer, UK or US?
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Which version of The Clash do you prefer, UK or US?


I think when I last compared them it was the US version, though I've never "permanently" decided so Ive left it open.
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I think when I last compared them it was the US version, though I've never "permanently" decided so Ive left it open.


What would your ideal version combining the best of both look like?
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What would your ideal version combining the best of both look like?


Hmmmm Think

Maybe Ill get back to you when I work on my Punk genre list?
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Note: if you look over my list now and in the near future you will see that, underneath the ratings Ive sectioned off some albums (in bold + italics) by numbers such as "14.0", "14.1" and so on. These other numbers simply represent their "combinative values" when one combines a separate rating of each half of the album (such as "14.1" for 7.1 + 7.0). (See criteria page for more on this...)... I am in the process of double checking and re-evaluating my ratings and, if needed, altering which "combo values" equate to which ratings (ensuring they are accurate and if not, fixing them).

This will probably be done with all the ratings from 7.3 and on up...

Simply put, as I revisit the albums, I am placing them under their "combo value" that they rate out as. And if I realize while I am going through these that, for instance, a "14.3" is actually supposed to be an 8.0 (not 7.9), and so on, I just move them where necessary -- much easier when I already have them "saved" under the correct "combo values" instead of having to remember where each point ended and started.

Anyway, not a permanent part of this list's format. But will have it this way until I feel satisfied that Ive verified that my ratings are all in order and uniformly aligned to the correct totals. Currently there is some mild uncertainty, hence the project... Could be a little bit so get used to those weird totals inside the ratings! Cool

Also, albums that are still among the group of albums that are not bold and not under the "combo values" are simply those I haven't re-verified yet. They will be placed under the "combo values" once Ive newly decided on their rating -- whether they change or remain exactly as before -- though I may not revisit every last album before Ive verified what I need to and this project is done.
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