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AfterHours



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On the "Recommendations" post (2nd from the top), I ammended the "rule" of "only recommending 7.3+ or higher" to the following:

Please only choose those you feel have a solid chance of me rating at or above the lowest rating shown on the list you're recommending for.

Therefore, if the list (such as my in-progress "Greatest Paintings - Extended List", which has now been added as an option) goes lower than 7.3 (like 6.8-7.2/10) it is now totally fine to send me such lower recommendations for such a list. It's now just based on whatever the particular list indicates.

Also, please note that my current incarnation of "Greatest Classical Music Works" only goes as low as 7.8/10 so the same "rule" applies. I will likely expand it to 7.3 sometime in the future, but currently 7.8+ is all I'm including.
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Hi AfterHours,
Perhaps, you could (re)consider Zelig by Woody Allen. Very profound, dense and funny. A powerful reflexion on conformism.
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Yann wrote:
Hi AfterHours,
Perhaps, you could (re)consider Zelig by Woody Allen. Very profound, dense and funny. A powerful reflexion on conformism.


Thanks, I added it. It's been at the back of my mind as something I need to see for what seems like ages now. Thank you for the reminder Smile
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I find your attention to detail on how you decide what art you enjoy fascinating, as I am an extremely visceral type of person. I don't generally ruminate for more than a couple of minutes on something before I know if I like it or not. Not to say I don't have the ability to do so, but my criteria is nowhere near as in depth.

Anyways, thought I would recommend some art to you that I didn't see on the list, but I am interested what your opinion would be. I won't go over 6. Smile

Visual Art:

Frederic Edwin Church- Cotopaxi (there art two different versions of this painting one from 1855 and the other from 1862, here is an article on the 1862 version)

http://eyelevel.si.edu/2012/12/the-civi...mpass.html

Frantisek Kupka- Madame Kupka Among Verticals https://www.moma.org/collection/works/79971

George Bellows- Cliff Dwellers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cliff_Dwellers_(painting)

Georg Gosz- The Funeral https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Funeral_(Grosz)

This is a book, but I think this goes along with your "conceptual art" prerequisite well,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Seraphinianus

Film

Clean, Shaven by Lodge Kerrigan
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Tha1ChiefRocka wrote:
I find your attention to detail on how you decide what art you enjoy fascinating, as I am an extremely visceral type of person. I don't generally ruminate for more than a couple of minutes on something before I know if I like it or not. Not to say I don't have the ability to do so, but my criteria is nowhere near as in depth.

Anyways, thought I would recommend some art to you that I didn't see on the list, but I am interested what your opinion would be. I won't go over 6. Smile

Visual Art:

Frederic Edwin Church- Cotopaxi (there art two different versions of this painting one from 1855 and the other from 1862, here is an article on the 1862 version)

http://eyelevel.si.edu/2012/12/the-civi...mpass.html

Frantisek Kupka- Madame Kupka Among Verticals https://www.moma.org/collection/works/79971

George Bellows- Cliff Dwellers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cliff_Dwellers_(painting)

Georg Gosz- The Funeral https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Funeral_(Grosz)

This is a book, but I think this goes along with your "conceptual art" prerequisite well,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Seraphinianus

Film

Clean, Shaven by Lodge Kerrigan


Thank you, I have not seen the film and will add it. I know those paintings so will add them into the "to revisit" section. Except Grosz's The Funeral, which is already on my "Greatest Paintings" list (in The Lounge forum), unless you are recommending that I revisit it because I am rating it too low? If so, I'll add it but let me know. Amazing work though. I do have an analysis I wrote up on it a few years ago, which I'll add to my paintings list (or a separate, new list) at some point (among some other analyses for film, paintings, albums)
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The Funeral, which is already on my "Greatest Paintings" list (in The Lounge forum), unless you are recommending that I revisit it because I am rating it too low?


Nope, didn't know about that, but I figured with Bosch in your top paintings that would probably be up your alley.

Edit: BTW if you want to see an academic view of that movie you could watch this, it's a great piece. It shows up at about 4:40.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQa--gJ412M
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The Funeral, which is already on my "Greatest Paintings" list (in The Lounge forum), unless you are recommending that I revisit it because I am rating it too low?


Nope, didn't know about that, but I figured with Bosch in your top paintings that would probably be up your alley.

Edit: BTW if you want to see an academic view of that movie you could watch this, it's a great piece. It shows up at about 4:40.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQa--gJ412M


Thank you Very Happy
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The Funeral, which is already on my "Greatest Paintings" list (in The Lounge forum), unless you are recommending that I revisit it because I am rating it too low?


Nope, didn't know about that, but I figured with Bosch in your top paintings that would probably be up your alley.

Edit: BTW if you want to see an academic view of that movie you could watch this, it's a great piece. It shows up at about 4:40.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQa--gJ412M


Ok, I just added those.

As regards books, I'm not delving into those right now or looking to make any lists, but I will keep your recommendation in mind should that change in the future.

Here's that paintings list: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/v...hp?t=15560

Note that it has hundreds of further selections below the main list that are yet to be re-rated and re-ranked (for the most part; unless otherwise noted)
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Just looking at Scaruffi's page...how the hell does he (or anyone for that matter) have the time to listen to so many new albums, watch so many new films, read so many books, and write so much?

I appreciate that he's a professional cultural historian but this guy is unbelievably prolific.
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boyd94 wrote:
Just looking at Scaruffi's page...how the hell does he (or anyone for that matter) have the time to listen to so many new albums, watch so many new films, read so many books, and write so much?

I appreciate that he's a professional cultural historian but this guy is unbelievably prolific.


It is very impressive. A few things to know is that he's been doing it pretty much full time for decades. He doesn't watch all those new films -- he has seen "just" those he has on his DECADES lists plus those UNDERLINED on the yearly ones (plus probably many others that didn't make it on the pre-2000s decades lists). The rest of those you see on the year-by-year rankings (late 1990s forward) that have NOT been underlined, have not been seen and the rating/ranking is just averaged out among his favorite critics until he does so himself. Otherwise, yes, it would be actually impossible. As it is, it is (barely) doable but still very impressive.
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