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- #11
- Posted: 07/17/2017 23:02
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craola wrote: | i'm in the minority, i suppose, but personally, i like the subdivisions.
granted, on the surface, it might all sound the same, but the ones in your list that i'm familiar with are pretty distinct, and there are enough artists exploited the terms that i think they're valid and helpful. |
I like the subdivisions too, they're useful. Lumping everything into 'alternative' is way worse.
But some of the names, sheesh.
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Space-Dementia
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- #12
- Posted: 07/17/2017 23:08
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craola wrote: | i'm in the minority, i suppose, but personally, i like the subdivisions.
granted, on the surface, it might all sound the same, but the ones in your list that i'm familiar with are pretty distinct, and there are enough artists exploited the terms that i think they're valid and helpful. |
Agreed. Yeah, some of the names are stupid, but I think for all the people who complain about too many subgenres, just ignore them. Nobody's forcing you to label American Football as "emo-math-post-rock" in your iTunes library. But for me, while I don't go around saying I listen to IDM (probably the most pretentious of subgenre names), it just helps me categorize bands and artists. If I see some album just labeled as "alternative" on Wikipedia, that doesn't really help me in figuring out what it sounds like. But if I see "post-grunge, nu metal" then I know I probably won't want to check it out.
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bobbyb5
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- #13
- Posted: 07/18/2017 09:00
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craola wrote: | i'm in the minority, i suppose, but personally, i like the subdivisions.
granted, on the surface, it might all sound the same, but the ones in your list that i'm familiar with are pretty distinct, and there are enough artists exploited the terms that i think they're valid and helpful. |
Problem is, they're just not distinct enough. if you ask 10 different people who use these terms which subgenre a certain record belongs to, you'll get 10 different answers. Which defeats the purpose of having genres in the first place. They're supposed help you identify a certain kind of music, but instead it causes confusion. And much silliness. Ha ha
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Liedzeit
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- #14
- Posted: 07/18/2017 09:21
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Shoegaze _________________ When the stewardess is near do not show any fear.
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Komorebi-D
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Komorebi-D
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bobbyb5
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- #17
- Posted: 07/18/2017 11:46
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Komorebi-D wrote: | Doesn't count...
Thumbnail. Click to enlarge. |
Lmao. Hilarious
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craola
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- #18
- Posted: 07/18/2017 17:08
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bobbyb5 wrote: | craola wrote: | i'm in the minority, i suppose, but personally, i like the subdivisions.
granted, on the surface, it might all sound the same, but the ones in your list that i'm familiar with are pretty distinct, and there are enough artists exploited the terms that i think they're valid and helpful. |
Problem is, they're just not distinct enough. if you ask 10 different people who use these terms which subgenre a certain record belongs to, you'll get 10 different answers. Which defeats the purpose of having genres in the first place. They're supposed help you identify a certain kind of music, but instead it causes confusion. And much silliness. Ha ha |
i think the root of your problem is that artists generally aren't that binary. some artists play nothing outside their roots, but a lot of people meander in and out of genres.
to pick on one of the more obvious examples OP listed:
Blank Banshee? vaporwave
Death's Dynamic Shroud.wmv? vaporwave
Infinity Frequencies? vaporwave
Eco Virtual? vaporwave
Vaperror? vaporwave
Esprit? vaporwave
t e l e p a t h? vaporwave
Luxury Elite? vaporwave
Macintosh Plus? vaporwave
HKE? vaporwave
Balam Acab and Oneohtrix Point Never have released music that could be classified as Vaporwave, but nobody would call them Vaporwave artists.
heck, Balam Acab has done Witch House, Post-Dub, Vaporwave and Seapunk. _________________ follow me on the bandcamp.
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Facetious
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- #19
- Posted: 07/18/2017 18:30
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Anything with "nu" in the name.
Vaporwave, ethereal wave and liquid funk are good names though.
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bobbyb5
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- #20
- Posted: 07/18/2017 18:39
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Facetious wrote: | Anything with "nu" in the name.
Vaporwave, ethereal wave and liquid funk are good names though. |
But liquid Funk already had several good names. And all the artists that people say are liquid funk now are the exact same artists making the same exact music that they used to make when they were called something else.
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