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Poll: Is an American war in Iran probable?
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  • Posted: 06/18/2019 13:50
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With American mobilization in the middle east and Iran reportedly launching rockets at an American military base in Iraq, do people think this is all just saber-rattling, or is yet another destructive war in the middle east on the horizon?

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  • Posted: 06/20/2019 17:00
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Not sure if probable, but the US definitely seem to be itching for it.
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RoundTheBend
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  • Posted: 06/21/2019 04:09
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With Syria and just the whole thing going on in middle east, Russia and US... and certain geniuses involved, I'm unclear how WWIII hasn't started to be completely honest.

I did find this funny from Trevor Noah though:@1:40


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  • Posted: 06/22/2019 06:46
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I really don’t know. I don’t think either side wants war, but in the absence of an agreement Iran is of course going to want to develop nuclear capabilities to defend itself. Aside from being generally dangerous, that would leave egg on the face of the Trump administration for tearing up the original agreement. Probably the best outcome is that they reach a new agreement that includes symbolic things that look like significant concessions to each side’s political base, but don’t actually amount to much in practice.
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baystateoftheart
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  • Posted: 01/03/2020 05:37
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Well fuck
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baystateoftheart wrote:
Well fuck


I'm seeing little why... Like this administration needs one, but media isn't being helpful.

NM was looking at coverage from last night's and it wasn't as detailed as this
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congre...n-n1109831
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  • Posted: 01/04/2020 01:09
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This is a recently impeached POTUS with little or no clue about anything, doing as he was probably advised...you want the negative attention off of you? You want to be re-elected?

Start a war. Preferably one you can spin as an easy win.
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Tha1ChiefRocka
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  • Posted: 01/04/2020 20:02
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The fact that "World War III" and "Franz Ferdinand" were trending on Twitter made me both amused and ashamed in equal measure.
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In a lot of ways, this feels like 2003 all over again. Karl Rove and Ari Fleischer were just talking up war in Iran on Fox. Much of the mainstream media has given the strike fawning coverage. Leaks have already revealed that the intelligence justification was "paper thin." Elected Republicans are either cheerleading or falling in line, and many elected Democrats are being spineless. We are headed for a totally unnecessary Middle Eastern war that would cost countless lives and dollars, has no good endgame, and would pour gasoline on existing anti-American sentiment and terrorism. The war is being launched with electoral (boosting re-election chances) and financial (benefit to the military industrial complex) considerations in mind.

But in other ways, it's far worse. Iran is orders of magnitude stronger than Iraq was in just about every way, so the war could be much longer and bloodier on both sides. The United States is weaker than we were then, ground down by endless war on multiple fronts and with allies rightfully alienated by erratic and unilateral actions. Trump is a less competent and more impulsive commander in chief than Bush, and unlike Cheney, Pence has no real sway. The assassination occurred without consent of Congress, which has not authorized force. Trump appears to have every intention to totally disregard the US Constitution with regard to war in Iran, fully emboldened by the lockstep support of his party throughout impeachment. He has just announced by Twitter that he has plans to commit war crimes, by striking (a symbolic, not strategic number of) targets based on their cultural significance to Iranians and not their military significance. Speaking of which, he has recently pardoned multiple war criminals, whom he calls patriots, sending the message that anything goes and no murder of innocent civilians is too depraved.

And of course, war is hell. It makes me sick thinking about the senseless bloodshed and staggering amount of human suffering that could be about to happen, furious at all the enablers who made it possible, and ashamed at the role America is playing in the world.
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  • Posted: 01/05/2020 02:34
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Yeah, there's not going to be a war.
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