Who was the first New Wave band?

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So I was with a group of friends and the question was posed, 'who was the first new wave band', and we all gave different answers - The Police, The Cars, and Devo

Although we couldn't come to a consensus, we all agreed new wave became prevalent in the late 70s (1976-79) and then spilled into the 80s.

So I ask you, who was the first new wave band?
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Don't forget about Blondie;


Blondie by Blondie

Although I would make a case for Roxy Music, or even the New York Dolls myself.
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Tha1ChiefRocka wrote:
Don't forget about Blondie;


Blondie by Blondie

Although I would make a case for Roxy Music, or even the New York Dolls myself.


That would be my pick too. Blondie's first album. But so many people define New Wave in different ways. To me it's the kind of punk mixed with pop of Blondie. To others it's the synthy stuff that came a couple years later and went on into the 80s. They were all called New Wave at one time or another
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New York Dolls I think is usually the answer.
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To me, new wave is the wave of dark/underground synth-pop/rock that flourished in the 80s. There was a whole sub-culture of 'wavers'. Dressed in all black, a lot of them with eyeliner and black bird's nest haircuts (like Robert Smith of the Cure). About the same period and/or somewhat later than the peak of the punk sub-culture.
Essential properties of the music were: use of electronics(synths, beats), gloomy/depressing themes, shoegazey sounds(meaning lots of reverb and other effects).

I never categorized 'pop-rock' bands such as Blondie or the Police under the genre, until later I found out that the term was used as a generalized term to mean all 'indie' rock/pop music from the 80s..

In my own understanding of the term new wave I'd nominate Suicide as the first new wave band..
Suicide
Kraftwerk also was a big influence to the genre, although wouldn't directly classify it as new wave.

Typical 'dark' new wave bands:
The Cure, Joy Division, Bauhaus, DAF, Front242, Siouxsie, Anne Clark..
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wooolf wrote:
To me, new wave is the wave of dark/underground synth-pop/rock that flourished in the 80s. There was a whole sub-culture of 'wavers'. Dressed in all black, a lot of them with eyeliner and black bird's nest haircuts (like Robert Smith of the Cure). About the same period and/or somewhat later than the peak of the punk sub-culture.
Essential properties of the music were: use of electronics(synths, beats), gloomy/depressing themes, shoegazey sounds(meaning lots of reverb and other effects).

I never categorized 'pop-rock' bands such as Blondie or the Police under the genre, until later I found out that the term was used as a generalized term to mean all 'indie' rock/pop music from the 80s..

In my own understanding of the term new wave I'd nominate Suicide as the first new wave band..
Suicide
Kraftwerk also was a big influence to the genre, although wouldn't directly classify it as new wave.

Typical 'dark' new wave bands:
The Cure, Joy Division, Bauhaus, DAF, Front242, Siouxsie, Anne Clark..


Right. Along with those you named, I also think of the less dark synth bands of the early 80s who were even more well-known to the general public. Flock of Seagull, Soft Cell, Modern English, Duran Duran. If you ask some people what are the first bands to come to mind when you say New Wave many will say these. But others will say much earlier bands like the ones on stiff records or Blondie or the Buzzcocks or XTC and that type of thing. That's why I tend to include all this type of stuff in New Wave. Even punk bands were called New Wave by some people and a lot of Post Punk too. It was a very fluid term
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Typical 'dark' new wave bands:
The Cure, Joy Division, Bauhaus, DAF, Front242, Siouxsie, Anne Clark..



What's the difference between new wave and post-punk then?

Also, aren't Talking Heads one of the first new wave bands ever?
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Wiki's definition is kind of like mine. In other words it was a whole bunch of different stuff

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_wave_music
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You're right, those bands were all found on new wave compilations etc.
But it never felt right to me, how can 'pop' music be part of the underground culture called new wave..

But as I look back, I also viewed Flock of Seagulls, Soft Cell & Martha & the Muffins as new wave.
There's indeed a large gray area in (black) new wave Smile
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These are all great answers I think. The one band I haven't seen mentioned yet is ...


Tubeway Army by Tubeway Army

oh and also this...



My Aim Is True by Elvis Costello
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