The Charts - Adjusted For Population

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US: Population - 323 million
UK: Population - 65 million
Canada: Population - 36 million
Australia: Population - 24 million
Germany: Population - 82 million
Sweden: Population - 10 million

I'd be interested in seeing a version of the charts "adjusted for population".

Taking Australia for example, a country 13 times smaller in population than the US. There have been albums that have truly crossed over to a world audience, from AC/DC or INXS for example, but the vast majority only have impact within the Australian market, a market that's 13 times smaller than the US, which also means 13 times less votes on this website. I imagine it's the same for other markets.

I'm not arguing for a change for how the whole website works, but it would be good to be able to view a chart that feels like a more accurate representation of the merit of albums from my country, and other smaller countries.

I imagine I could download CSV files and make up rules to adjust the rank scores, and then re-sort, but what would make for fair rules, in your mind?

Has anyone else attempted to do this sort of thing?
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I reckon with Iceland having a population of 300,000 Ágætis Byrjun would be no.1
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Jimmy Dread wrote:
I reckon with Iceland having a population of 300,000 Ágætis Byrjun would be no.1


Sure... if that was the biggest selling album by an Icelandic artist.

Bjork might have something to say about that, though.
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Jimmy Dread wrote:
I reckon with Iceland having a population of 300,000 Ágætis Byrjun would be no.1


Yup.

And cool idea.

I too have often thought about Canada vs California (both CA). Their population is roughly the same and have roughly the same surprising base of great artists/musicians.

Maybe another way to slice it is to map ranked artists and where they come from and then put a weight on it?
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Sure... if that was the biggest selling album by an Icelandic artist.


No it wasn't (imagine Debut was).

Given BEA's overall has Ágætis Byrjun above Homogenic or indeed any other Bjork album if someone were to do as the OP suggests and concoct a version of the BEA chart based on user 'votes' as opposed to sales and weighted for population Sigur Ros would still top it.
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Jimmy Dread wrote:
No it wasn't (imagine Debut was).

Given BEA's overall has Ágætis Byrjun above Homogenic or indeed any other Bjork album if someone were to do as the OP suggests and concoct a version of the BEA chart based on user 'votes' as opposed to sales and weighted for population Sigur Ros would still top it.


Ah, yes, I retract my statement. I was locked in on sales rather than BEA rankings. Silly mistake as this is a BEA thread! Please ignore previous and carry on.
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Well, that's an hour of my life I'll never get back.
Best ever albums, adjusted for population by multiplying rank score:

1 Ágætis Byrjun Sigur Rós 1999
2 Homogenic Björk 1997
3 Post Björk 1995
4 Debut Björk 1993
5 Takk... Sigur Rós 2005
6 Loveless My Bloody Valentine 1991
7 ( ) Sigur Rós 2002
8 Vespertine Björk 2001
9 The Joshua Tree U2 1987
10 Achtung Baby U2 1991
11 Með Suð í Eyrum Við Spilum Endalaust Sigur Rós 2008
12 Legend Bob Marley And The Wailers 1984
13 Exodus Bob Marley And The Wailers 1977
14 OK Computer Radiohead 1997
15 Funeral Arcade Fire 2004
16 The Dark Side Of The Moon Pink Floyd 1973
17 Abbey Road The Beatles 1969
18 Revolver The Beatles 1966
19 Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band The Beatles 1967
20 Vulnicura Björk 2015
21 Medúlla Björk 2004
22 Kid A Radiohead 2000
23 My Head Is An Animal Of Monsters And Men 2011
24 Valtari Sigur Rós 2012
25 Led Zeppelin IV Led Zeppelin 1971
26 The Beatles (The White Album) The Beatles 1968
27 Wish You Were Here Pink Floyd 1975
28 Finally We Are No One múm 2002
29 London Calling The Clash 1979
30 In Rainbows Radiohead 2007
31 Kveikur Sigur Rós 2013
32 The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust And The Spiders From Mars David Bowie 1972
33 The Bends Radiohead 1995
34 Biophilia Björk 2011
35 Life's Too Good The Sugarcubes 1988
36 Go Jónsi 2010
37 The Queen Is Dead The Smiths 1986
38 The Unforgettable Fire U2 1984
39 Rubber Soul The Beatles 1965
40 The Wall Pink Floyd 1979
41 Catch A Fire The Wailers 1973
42 Back In Black AC/DC 1980
43 Who's Next The Who 1971
44 All That You Can't Leave Behind U2 2000
45 The Stone Roses The Stone Roses 1989
46 Exile On Main St. The Rolling Stones 1972
47 Rumours Fleetwood Mac 1977
48 After The Gold Rush Neil Young 1970
49 Unknown Pleasures Joy Division 1979
50 Led Zeppelin II Led Zeppelin 1969
51 Selmasongs Björk 2000
52 War U2 1983
53 Blue Joni Mitchell 1971
54 The Suburbs Arcade Fire 2010
55 (What's The Story) Morning Glory? Oasis 1995
56 Neon Bible Arcade Fire 2007
57 Harvest Neil Young 1972
58 Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not Arctic Monkeys 2006
59 Hunky Dory David Bowie 1971
60 Let It Bleed The Rolling Stones 1969
61 Disintegration The Cure 1989
62 Yesterday Was Dramatic - Today Is OK múm 2000
63 Astral Weeks Van Morrison 1968
64 Volta Björk 2007
65 Natty Dread Bob Marley And The Wailers 1974
66 Led Zeppelin Led Zeppelin 1969
67 Pink Moon Nick Drake 1972
68 Low David Bowie 1977
69 Closer Joy Division 1980
70 Lonerism Tame Impala 2012
71 A Night At The Opera Queen 1975
72 Hvarf/Heim Sigur Rós 2007
73 Sticky Fingers The Rolling Stones 1971
74 Definitely Maybe Oasis 1994
75 Riceboy Sleeps Jónsi & Alex 2009
76 Never Mind The Bollocks, Here's The Sex Pistols Sex Pistols 1977
77 A Rush Of Blood To The Head Coldplay 2002
78 Heart Of The Congos The Congos 1977
79 Paranoid Black Sabbath 1970
80 Dummy Portishead 1994
81 O Damien Rice 2002
82 Physical Graffiti Led Zeppelin 1975
83 Rattle And Hum U2 1988
84 Songs Of Leonard Cohen Leonard Cohen 1967
85 Houses Of The Holy Led Zeppelin 1973
86 Arabian Horse GusGus 2011
87 Isn't Anything My Bloody Valentine 1988
88 Amnesiac Radiohead 2001
89 Me And Armini Emiliana Torrini 2008
90 In The Court Of The Crimson King King Crimson 1969
91 The Shape Of Punk To Come Refused 1998
92 Nevermind Nirvana 1991
93 Odessey And Oracle The Zombies 1968
94 Live! Bob Marley And The Wailers 1975
95 Absolution Muse 2003
96 ... And They Have Escaped The Weight Of Darkness Ólafur Arnalds 2010
97 Marcus Garvey Burning Spear 1975
98 The Band The Band 1969
99 Pet Sounds The Beach Boys 1966
100 Quadrophenia The Who 1973
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102 Animals Pink Floyd 1977
103 Close To The Edge Yes 1972
104 King Tubbys Meets Rockers Uptown Augustus Pablo 1976
105 Highway To Hell AC/DC 1979
106 Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas To Heaven Godspeed You! Black Emperor 2000
107 Hounds Of Love Kate Bush 1985
108 John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band John Lennon 1970
109 Beggars Banquet The Rolling Stones 1968
110 In The Aeroplane Over The Sea Neutral Milk Hotel 1998
111 Beneath The Skin Of Monsters And Men 2015
112 Origin Of Symmetry Muse 2001
113 By The Throat Ben Frost 2009
114 Doolittle Pixies 1989
115 Moondance Van Morrison 1970
116 Violator Depeche Mode 1990
117 Music From Big Pink The Band 1968
118 Von Sigur Rós 1997
119 All Things Must Pass George Harrison 1970
120 Mezzanine Massive Attack 1998
121 Highway 61 Revisited Bob Dylan 1965
122 Boy U2 1980
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124 Jailbreak Thin Lizzy 1976
125 Jagged Little Pill Alanis Morissette 1995
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128 Parachutes Coldplay 2000
129 Tommy The Who 1969
130 Different Class Pulp 1995
131 Parklife Blur 1994
132 The Wild Hunt The Tallest Man On Earth 2010
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135 Moving Pictures Rush 1981
136 The Clash The Clash 1977
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143 How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb U2 2004
144 Is This It The Strokes 2001
145 Station To Station David Bowie 1976
146 Burnin' The Wailers 1973
147 Telegram Björk 1996
148 Summer Make Good múm 2004
149 The Smiths The Smiths 1984
150 Spirit Of Eden Talk Talk 1988
151 Five Leaves Left Nick Drake 1969
152 Uprising Bob Marley And The Wailers 1980
153 Flowers Sin Fang 2013
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155 Tourist History Two Door Cinema Club 2010
156 The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway Genesis 1974
157 Low Roar Low Roar 2011
158 Pure Heroine Lorde 2013
159 The Ghost That Carried Us Away Seabear 2007
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164 Urban Hymns The Verve 1997
165 Screamadelica Primal Scream 1991
166 Love In The Time Of Science Emiliana Torrini 1999
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190 A Hard Day's Night The Beatles 1964
191 Kind Of Blue Miles Davis 1959
192 Currents Tame Impala 2015
193 Reflektor Arcade Fire 2013
194 Imagine John Lennon 1971
195 Found Songs Ólafur Arnalds 2009
196 Zooropa U2 1993
197 Back To Black Amy Winehouse 2006
198 This Year's Model Elvis Costello 1978
199 Family Tree Björk 2002
200 Ten Pearl Jam 1991
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245 Fever Ray Fever Ray 2009
246 A Moon Shaped Pool Radiohead 2016
247 2112 Rush 1976
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249 F♯A♯∞ Godspeed You! Black Emperor 1997
250 Dog Man Star Suede 1994
251 Rock Bottom Robert Wyatt 1974
252 Trans-Europe Express Kraftwerk 1977
253 Kick INXS 1987
254 Siamese Dream The Smashing Pumpkins 1993
255 Black Rose Thin Lizzy 1979
256 Appetite For Destruction Guns N' Roses 1987
257 Elephant The White Stripes 2003
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265 Stick Around For Joy The Sugarcubes 1992
266 Viva La Vida Or Death And All His Friends Coldplay 2008
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268 Tago Mago Can 1971
269 Tea For The Tillerman Cat Stevens 1970
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273 Ladies And Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space Spiritualized 1997
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275 You Made Me Realise My Bloody Valentine 1988
276 Weezer (The Blue Album) Weezer 1994
277 Funky Kingston Toots & The Maytals 1972
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280 The Fat of The Land The Prodigy 1997
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282 Sing Along To Songs You Don't Know múm 2009
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285 Silent Alarm Bloc Party 2005
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290 Irish Tour Rory Gallagher 1974
291 Surfer Rosa Pixies 1988
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293 Shallow Grave The Tallest Man On Earth 2008
294 Rust Never Sleeps Neil Young And Crazy Horse 1979
295 A Pagan Place The Waterboys 1984
296 A Love Supreme John Coltrane 1965
297 Two Sevens Clash Culture 1977
298 Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots The Flaming Lips 2002
299 Songs Of Love And Hate Leonard Cohen 1971
300 Let Love In Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds 1994
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305 Some Girls The Rolling Stones 1978
306 Fisherman's Woman Emiliana Torrini 2005
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308 Master Of Puppets Metallica 1986
309 The Who Sell Out The Who 1967
310 Thick As A Brick Jethro Tull 1972
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312 The Moon & Antarctica Modest Mouse 2000
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335 Modern Life is Rubbish Blur 1993
336 Louder Than Bombs The Smiths 1987
337 Blood Sugar Sex Magik Red Hot Chili Peppers 1991
338 Promenade The Divine Comedy 1994
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344 Transformer Lou Reed 1972
345 Foxtrot Genesis 1972
346 Talk On Corners The Corrs 1997
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351 Night Falls Over Kortedala Jens Lekman 2007
352 Future Days Can 1973
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356 Band On The Run Paul McCartney & Wings 1973
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367 Black Sabbath Black Sabbath 1970
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373 All Mod Cons The Jam 1978
374 Graceland Paul Simon 1986
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379 Plastic Beach Gorillaz 2010
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382 Boxer The National 2007
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387 Out Of The Blue Electric Light Orchestra 1977
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391 Here Come The Warm Jets Brian Eno 1974
392 Hot Fuss The Killers 2004
393 Still Life Opeth 1999
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