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AfterHours
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- #11
- Posted: 09/07/2018 19:06
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I added a section just below the main list for "Other User's Selections & Suggestions". For those from this section that I end up using for the main list, I will transfer them onto it. But even if another user's suggestion(s) are not added to the main list (for instance, if I dont agree or if it just doesnt rate high enough on the "equivalence rating") they will still remain acknowledged in this sub-section. Exceptions may be made for selections/suggestions that arent meant seriously or as a joke, etc. Also, if you as the user changes your mind about one or want to replace one with a different selection, just let me know and Ill edit.
Not to mention those listed in this "Other User's" section make up an alternate perspective that you may find worth considering.
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- #12
- Posted: 09/10/2018 15:53
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Several additions throughout (marked by ">>>" to the left of the new entry). Ive started adding entries to the "7.5/10" section as well (just those that immediately came to mind so far).
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- #13
- Posted: 09/11/2018 04:28
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My Charlie Kaufman list:
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind - Michel Gondry (2004)
Sea Change - Beck (2002)
Adaptation - Spike Jonze (2002)
Music For 18 Musicians - Steve Reich (1978)
Being John Malkovich - Spike Jonze (1999)
Vespertine - Bjork (2001)
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AfterHours
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- #14
- Posted: 09/11/2018 17:48
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| SquishypuffDave wrote: | My Charlie Kaufman list:
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind - Michel Gondry (2004)
Sea Change - Beck (2002)
Adaptation - Spike Jonze (2002)
Music For 18 Musicians - Steve Reich (1978)
Being John Malkovich - Spike Jonze (1999)
Vespertine - Bjork (2001) |
Right on thank you, Ill add them to the Other Users section soon. I must admit that I cant really make heads or tails of these selections, as the correlations seem pretty vague to me (but maybe its just me?) Are you trying to align with the "equivalence ratings" closely (or at least "10/15") for these (see below) or are you going by another criteria?
(1) The first number is scored by how closely the album corresponds to the film in relation to EMOTIONAL/CONCEPTUAL CONTENT, with a 5 being as close as one can reasonably expect.
(2) The second number is scored by how closely the album corresponds to the film in relation to PACING, RHYTHM, MOMENTUM AND STRUCTURAL ARC, with a 5 being as close as one can reasonably expect.
(3) The third number is scored by how closely the album corresponds to the film in relation to OVERALL QUALITY/RATING, with a 5 being within 0.2 of the same rating (when comparing between my "Greatest Films" and "Greatest Albums" lists that feature more precise ratings). For every 0.3 in rating differential between the two, the score is dropped by 0.5 (from a possible 5 out of 5).
(as a note: its more "1" and "2" that I'm asking about. I dont expect other users to make much effort to align the selections with mine ratings-wise)
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- Posted: 09/11/2018 22:08
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I revised the section above the list that describes its purpose and the "equivalence ratings". Should be clearer now. If any further explanation needed -- no worries -- just let me know.
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- Posted: 09/12/2018 09:25
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| AfterHours wrote: | | Right on thank you, Ill add them to the Other Users section soon. I must admit that I cant really make heads or tails of these selections, as the correlations seem pretty vague to me (but maybe its just me?) Are you trying to align with the "equivalence ratings" closely (or at least "10/15") for these (see below) or are you going by another criteria? |
I just used the criteria of the feelings in my heart. I doubt you're going to get any contributions following your equivalence ratings, since you've clearly got a system that's very personal to you and the way you process art.
That said, the constantly evolving rhythms in Music For 18 Musicians phasing in and out of time with each other mirror Kaufman's incessant revising of his screenplay, as well as The Orchid Thief's central themes of dissatisfaction and constant evolution. The structure of the movie is actually (with a helping of intentional irony) quite traditional, but using a traditionally structured album to represent it would be a disservice I feel.
The other two were primarily about the emotions they elicit, but the lyrical content also contributed, respectively:
Beck - Lost Cause
Your sorry eyes cut through the bone
They make it hard to leave you alone
Leave you here wearing your wounds
Waving your guns at somebody new
Baby you're lost
Baby you're lost
Baby you're a lost cause
There's too many people you used to know
They see you coming they see you go
They know your secrets and you know theirs
This town is crazy, nobody cares
Baby you're lost
Baby you're lost
Baby you're a lost cause
I'm tired of fighting
I'm tired of fighting
Fighting for a lost cause
There's a place where you are going
You ain't never been before
No one left to watch your back now
No one standing at your door
That's what you thought love was for
Baby you're lost
Baby you're lost
Baby you're a lost cause
I'm tired of fighting
I'm tired of fighting
Fighting for a lost cause
Björk - Hidden Place
(This song takes on a wonderfully strange dimension if you picture John Malkovich as both the recipient of the song as well as him actually being the "hidden place" in question.)
Through the warmest cord of care
Your love was sent to me
I'm not sure what to do with it
Or where to put it
I'm so close to tears
And so close to
Simply calling you up
I'm simply suggesting
We go to the hidden place
That we go to the hidden place
We go to the hidden place
We go to a hidden place
Now I have been slightly shy
And I can smell a pinch of hope
To almost have allowed
One's fingers to stroke
The fingers I was given
To touch with but careful, careful
There lies my passion, hidden
There lies my love
I'll hide it under a blanket
Lull it to sleep
I'll keep it in a hidden place
I'll keep it in a hidden place
Keep it in a hidden place
Keep it in a hidden place
He's the beautifulest
Fragilest still strong
Dark and divine
And the littleness of his movements
Hides himself
Invents a charm
That makes him invisible
Hides in the air
Can I hide there too
Hide in the air of him
Seek solace
Sanctuary
In the hidden place
In a hidden place
In a hidden place
We'll stay in a hidden place
Oh, in a hidden place
We'll live in a hidden place
We'll be in a hidden place
In a hidden place
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AfterHours
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- #17
- Posted: 09/12/2018 16:46
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| SquishypuffDave wrote: | I just used the criteria of the feelings in my heart. I doubt you're going to get any contributions following your equivalence ratings, since you've clearly got a system that's very personal to you and the way you process art.
That said, the constantly evolving rhythms in Music For 18 Musicians phasing in and out of time with each other mirror Kaufman's incessant revising of his screenplay, as well as The Orchid Thief's central themes of dissatisfaction and constant evolution. The structure of the movie is actually (with a helping of intentional irony) quite traditional, but using a traditionally structured album to represent it would be a disservice I feel.
The other two were primarily about the emotions they elicit, but the lyrical content also contributed, respectively:
Beck - Lost Cause
Your sorry eyes cut through the bone
They make it hard to leave you alone
Leave you here wearing your wounds
Waving your guns at somebody new
Baby you're lost
Baby you're lost
Baby you're a lost cause
There's too many people you used to know
They see you coming they see you go
They know your secrets and you know theirs
This town is crazy, nobody cares
Baby you're lost
Baby you're lost
Baby you're a lost cause
I'm tired of fighting
I'm tired of fighting
Fighting for a lost cause
There's a place where you are going
You ain't never been before
No one left to watch your back now
No one standing at your door
That's what you thought love was for
Baby you're lost
Baby you're lost
Baby you're a lost cause
I'm tired of fighting
I'm tired of fighting
Fighting for a lost cause
Björk - Hidden Place
(This song takes on a wonderfully strange dimension if you picture John Malkovich as both the recipient of the song as well as him actually being the "hidden place" in question.)
Through the warmest cord of care
Your love was sent to me
I'm not sure what to do with it
Or where to put it
I'm so close to tears
And so close to
Simply calling you up
I'm simply suggesting
We go to the hidden place
That we go to the hidden place
We go to the hidden place
We go to a hidden place
Now I have been slightly shy
And I can smell a pinch of hope
To almost have allowed
One's fingers to stroke
The fingers I was given
To touch with but careful, careful
There lies my passion, hidden
There lies my love
I'll hide it under a blanket
Lull it to sleep
I'll keep it in a hidden place
I'll keep it in a hidden place
Keep it in a hidden place
Keep it in a hidden place
He's the beautifulest
Fragilest still strong
Dark and divine
And the littleness of his movements
Hides himself
Invents a charm
That makes him invisible
Hides in the air
Can I hide there too
Hide in the air of him
Seek solace
Sanctuary
In the hidden place
In a hidden place
In a hidden place
We'll stay in a hidden place
Oh, in a hidden place
We'll live in a hidden place
We'll be in a hidden place
In a hidden place |
Okay, that makes more sense now that I know youre not thinking with the posted criteria in a more detailed or thorough sense.
The entries that will make this list share a more consistent and thorough similarity "score" from start to finish...
In regards to contribution... Always preferred of course, but the selections are going to expand regardless. And it defeats the purpose and discipline of this list to make the requirements too loose so I'm not going to be doing that.
I have already run iterations of this list on past sites (going back years) and with friends/associates so lots of contribution has thus far occurred to help produce what is already here. For instance, Scaruffi recommended Sunrise as perhaps the closest parallel to Rock Bottom in content and structure ... and I believe I discussed Irrlicht / 2001 as my original query/discussion with him on the matter
.. a user named Parable made several previous contributions ... Facetious too ... a user named Elston ... Marquee ... seanseansean ...
joannajewsom, I think? (etc).
Naturally, one's degree of contribution (provided he/she is interested in the first place) most likely depends on the degree of familiarity one has, more than any other factor. I dont know how many users on this site are extensively familiar with a lot of the works listed, so my expectation of contribution was "to be determined". Many of the selections would make immediate sense to someone who is quite familiar with them (both film and album). Furthermore, one is much more likely to find corresponding albums amongst similarly rated films, than otherwise. The higher the rating the more likely similarities in characteristics will be evident.
That all said, even if one is not familiar with the selections, it can be used as a guide for just that purpose, which I highly recommend.
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- Posted: 03/02/2019 21:18
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The Wall - Alan Parker (1982)
The Wall - Pink Floyd
 
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- Posted: 03/03/2019 04:19
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| raadfactoryxny wrote: | The Wall - Alan Parker (1982)
The Wall - Pink Floyd
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Yes of course! Now if only they were rated high enough  7.3 is the lowest a film can place to be included here, unless I expand this further which I might at a later time.
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- #20
- Posted: 05/29/2019 14:42
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This post is actually pretty nice and helpful in terms of what mood I'm in. Let's say, if I'm listening to Blonde On Blonde, and I wanna watch something with the same conceptual, emotional or stylistic expression, then here's some examples. Oh... and some new movies to get into as well. Thanks AH!
Btw Psycho and Suicide are like a quintessential match-up.
Next up: If you haven't already, could it be possible at some point to do a Greatest Paintings - Corresponding Albums/Songs/Movies/etc.?
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