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alexheartmother
Gender: Male
Location: TX
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- #11
- Posted: 06/11/2019 04:24
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baystateoftheart wrote: | I haven’t heard it front-to-back, but I pretty much agree with this based on what I have heard. Probably going to have to hear it all soon for the canon game, and dreading that. Yes, Eminem doesn’t belong in any discussion of hip-hop GOATs, but even worse, millions of people like him and no other hip-hop... funny how that works... |
How's he not a GOAT?
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alexheartmother
Gender: Male
Location: TX
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- #12
- Posted: 06/11/2019 04:27
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Skinny wrote: | Cartoonish, wilfully provocative, goofy as fuck, borderline unlistenable, and an already tired retread of the previous LP. That this is held up as an example of the best hip-hop has to offer by so many people is genuinely offensive. |
It's a refinement and a much better version of the 1st L.P.. Why would ppl thinking that it's the best mean it's "genuinely offensive"?
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Skinny
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- #13
- Posted: 06/11/2019 05:51
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alexheartmother wrote: | It's a refinement and a much better version of the 1st L.P.. Why would ppl thinking that it's the best mean it's "genuinely offensive"? |
A primarily black artform, co-opted by a shock tactics merchant who stripped away all subtlety in order to appeal to the TRL and nu-metal crowd(s), who was then frequently talked about as the best rapper of all-time, is the definition of white privilege. He's clearly talented, but he's also essentially just Masta Ace with added pop culture references and fart jokes. _________________ 2021 in full effect. Come drop me some recs. Y'all know what I like.
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Graeme2
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Location: The Upside Down
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- #14
- Posted: 06/11/2019 13:00
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Skinny wrote: | A primarily black artform, co-opted by a shock tactics merchant who stripped away all subtlety in order to appeal to the TRL and nu-metal crowd(s), who was then frequently talked about as the best rapper of all-time, is the definition of white privilege. He's clearly talented, but he's also essentially just Masta Ace with added pop culture references and fart jokes. |
I'm sure the fact he's white has helped him shift more units, no doubt. But I guess some spotty white teenagers have at times loved their hip hop unsubtle and shocking. There's definitely a demographic of whites who specifically loved hip hop because of this. Even before Eminem. Eminem was just continuing the path set by people like 2live crew and his pals like NWA. Those acts saw the money to be made in releasing ever more shocking stuff. Eminem just took that and put his own take on it. Never been a fan of his music but I think he is a great rapper. Not top ten or even twenty. Never saw much in him being compared to Masta Ace, mostly it's because he was a big influence.
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Skinny
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- #15
- Posted: 06/11/2019 14:34
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Graeme2 wrote: | I'm sure the fact he's white has helped him shift more units, no doubt. But I guess some spotty white teenagers have at times loved their hip hop unsubtle and shocking. There's definitely a demographic of whites who specifically loved hip hop because of this. Even before Eminem. Eminem was just continuing the path set by people like 2live crew and his pals like NWA. Those acts saw the money to be made in releasing ever more shocking stuff. Eminem just took that and put his own take on it. Never been a fan of his music but I think he is a great rapper. Not top ten or even twenty. Never saw much in him being compared to Masta Ace, mostly it's because he was a big influence. |
His entire flow was just lifted from Masta Ace, especially the first couple of albums. The rhyme patterns are often identical. _________________ 2021 in full effect. Come drop me some recs. Y'all know what I like.
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Graeme2
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Location: The Upside Down
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- #16
- Posted: 06/11/2019 16:22
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Skinny wrote: | His entire flow was just lifted from Masta Ace, especially the first couple of albums. The rhyme patterns are often identical. |
Big fan of slaughtahouse isn't he. Picked that up on cd for a quid the other week. Will have to have another listen to that. Great record anyway. Also, I should listen to a full Eminem album, though I've never been that inclined.
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CharlieBarley
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Age: 48
Location: Mount Olympus
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- #17
- Posted: 06/11/2019 22:37
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Well, I love this album. It's one of his best
Shame he has lost his mojo somewhat with his latest two albums
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Lowkey
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Age: 26
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- #18
- Posted: 06/11/2019 22:40
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I liked this when I was like, 16.
Stan is still a classic, and there are a few other decent tracks
However
This is still a pretty cringe inducing record
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Hayden
Location: CDMX
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- #19
- Posted: 06/11/2019 23:24
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Stover75 wrote: |
Shame he has lost his mojo somewhat with his latest two albums |
...2?
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joedec
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Age: 41
Location: Port Arthur, Tx
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- #20
- Posted: 06/12/2019 02:42
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Eminem's best album and one of my Top 100 Favorite albums
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