some of the biggest artists/geniuses ever have Aspergers - Music

DommeDamian
Imperfect, sensitive Aspie with a melody addiction

Gender: Male
Age: 23
Location: where the flowers grow.

BorveLaResidenta wrote:

heeeeeeey OP, Graham Lambkin and Ghédalia Tazartès plays Alice, Cph. the 4th of April, you going? I might actually score you a ticket for this one, feel free to PM

Who are you???
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AReasonableMan

Gender: Male

Kanye is definitely on the spectrum.

DommeDamian
Imperfect, sensitive Aspie with a melody addiction

Gender: Male
Age: 23
Location: where the flowers grow.

AReasonableMan wrote:

Kanye is definitely on the spectrum.

He's bipolar Smile

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TimeLion

Eccentricity, odd behavior, reclusiveness, etc. do not always mean somebody has autism. I tend to view claims of famous artists having autism with extreme suspicion. This is because most of the people I know who are on the autism spectrum are very inflexible and struggle with change, a trait that would be damn near debilitating for an artist. The people you list are famous for thinking outside the box, and autists tend to find even brief trips outside the box excruciating.

DommeDamian
Imperfect, sensitive Aspie with a melody addiction

Gender: Male
Age: 23
Location: where the flowers grow.

TimeLion wrote:

Eccentricity, odd behavior, reclusiveness, etc. do not always mean somebody has autism. I tend to view claims of famous artists having autism with extreme suspicion. This is because most of the people I know who are on the autism spectrum are very inflexible and struggle with change, a trait that would be damn near debilitating for an artist. The people you list are famous for thinking outside the box, and autists tend to find even brief trips outside the box excruciating.

Understandable, but not all autists are inflexible, a lot of autists are very creative and have the ability to think outside the box. And I'm also talking about the other Aspies I know.

When you're an artist, nothing should be debilitating, you can do the art however you want. Thinking outside the box is a part of creativity, seen in some Aspies. Therefore, I don't really share your point of view of Aspies being incapable of thinking outside the box.

"autists tend to find even brief trips outside the box excruciating"
Both excruciating but also like a breath of fresh air, and some of us take it in. It depends on how and when those trips come Smile

Otherwise, I appreciate your take on it.
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TimeLion

raadfactoryxny wrote:

Understandable, but not all autists are inflexible, a lot of autists are very creative and have the ability to think outside the box. And I'm also talking about the other Aspies I know.

When you're an artist, nothing should be debilitating, you can do the art however you want. Thinking outside the box is a part of creativity, seen in some Aspies. Therefore, I don't really share your point of view of Aspies being incapable of thinking outside the box.

"autists tend to find even brief trips outside the box excruciating"
Both excruciating but also like a breath of fresh air, and some of us take it in. It depends on how and when those trips come Smile

Otherwise, I appreciate your take on it.

If you really enjoy trips of creativity and outside-the-box thinking, then that characterization doesn’t apply to you. A person is always much, much more than what is implied by labels like “aspie”. A label, especially one as dubious and prone to error as that, should never be enough to talk you out of what you think you’re capable of. Maybe focus more on that and less on what medical diagnosis might or might not have been made for famous people.

DommeDamian
Imperfect, sensitive Aspie with a melody addiction

Gender: Male
Age: 23
Location: where the flowers grow.

TimeLion wrote:

raadfactoryxny wrote:

Understandable, but not all autists are inflexible, a lot of autists are very creative and have the ability to think outside the box. And I'm also talking about the other Aspies I know.

When you're an artist, nothing should be debilitating, you can do the art however you want. Thinking outside the box is a part of creativity, seen in some Aspies. Therefore, I don't really share your point of view of Aspies being incapable of thinking outside the box.

"autists tend to find even brief trips outside the box excruciating"
Both excruciating but also like a breath of fresh air, and some of us take it in. It depends on how and when those trips come Smile

Otherwise, I appreciate your take on it.

If you really enjoy trips of creativity and outside-the-box thinking, then that characterization doesn’t apply to you. A person is always much, much more than what is implied by labels like “aspie”. A label, especially one as dubious and prone to error as that, should never be enough to talk you out of what you think you’re capable of. Maybe focus more on that and less on what medical diagnosis might or might not have been made for famous people.

Thanks for the input. It seems to me that you view the Asperger diagnosis as limiting, whereas I merely view it as an explanation. An explanation for
- being different
- odd and eccentric
- having a strong special interest (the intensity of which people don't get)
- being socially awkward and missing social cues
- difficulties with some executive functions
- high degree of sensitivity, in particular relating to sensory ones
- a tendency to black/white-thinking
etc. to varying forms and degrees.

I very much agree with the point that every human being is more than what their labels. I'm just arguing that one should not underestimate the liberating power of an explanation.

"A label, especially one as dubious and prone to error as that, should never be enough to talk you out of what you think you’re capable of."

I generally think that people are capable of alot, regardless of labels. And I agree 100% that NOBODY should try and talk you out based on labels or other superficial characteristics. It's comparable to sexism and racism. I hope I didn't come across as that Anxious

"If you really enjoy trips of creativity and outside-the-box thinking, then that characterization doesn’t apply to you." I'm not really sure what you mean about that characterization...
I think it's up 2 everyone to define themselves and not be limited by other people's expectations of them.

PS: I rarely enjoy thinking outside-the-box, I explain it in my XXXTentacion description on my chart.
PPS: An Aspie who has shown the world (pretty much) how to think outside the box, in terms of climate change, is the swedish activist/schoolgirl Greta Thunberg.
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cestuneblague
Edgy to the Choir

Location: MA/FL

RockyRaccoon wrote:

This is the most JMan thread we've had in a very long time

Well at least there probably won't be any "I'm Sorry" threads in the lounge

RoundTheBend
I miss the comfort in being sad

Location: Ground Control

CryingGameDahlin wrote:

Well at least there probably won't be any "I'm Sorry" threads in the lounge

Now I know where to say I'm sorry... Laughing

Lastings

Gender: Male
Age: 42
Location: Minnesota

This is kind of an odd poll. Do I agree that this list of artists are geniuses? Do I agree that they have Aspergers? Do I agree that they are both geniuses and have Aspergers? Do I agree that this is a poll? I'm not really sure how to respond here.