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After a conversation in our ongoing Best Songwriter tournament in which many expressed shock that Joni Mitchell, Nick Cave, Tom Waits, etc weren't in the Top 40 best ranked artists on the site, I began wondering what would happen if, rather than choosing Best Ever Artists based on number of albums and chart position, how it would look if we did a simple survey.

Process would go same way our albums are ranked. #1 artist gets 100 points, #2 gets 99, and so on down to your #100 getting 1 point (so also the exact same method Hayden is using in the Lounge for the Best Film surveys)

I'm thinking any recording artist would be allowed (or in other words any artist included on the site. Beethoven and Chopin would therefore be ineligible, but any pianist or orchestra who records their works would).

Also, much like the site, any variantions/aliases would be combined (Prince, Prince and the Revolution, New Power Generation, and Prince & the New Power Generation would all be counted as one artist), whereas a solo artist with a distinct career from a band would not be combined (The Beatles and John Lennon would be counted as different artists)

Anybody be interested in trying this out?
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So, for example, my list would probably look like this:

100. Anton Karas
99. Paco de Lucia
98. Blind Blake
97. Roy Orbison
96. Bunji Garlin
95. The Naked and Famous
94. Fats Waller
93. Janis Joplin
92. Vampire Weekend
91. Moses Sumney
90. Death Cab for Cutie
89. Alcest
88. Jackson C. Frank
87. Andres Segovia
86. Yuck
85. Black Keys
84. Amanda Palmer
83. Dean Martin
82. Frank Zappa
81. Cafe Tacuba
80. Deerhunter
79. Flight of the Conchords
78. Dave van Ronk
77. John Cale
76. Louis Armstron
75. Neu!
74. The Residents
73. Steve Reich
72. Tom Lehrer
71. Arcade Fire
70. Mighty Sparrow
69. Daniel Johnston
68. of Montreal
67. Benny Goodman
66. Federico Durand
65. Violent Femmes
64. Herbie Hancock
63. Joni Mitchell
62. Sonic Youth
61. Neil Young
60. HIlary Hahn
59. FKA Twigs
58. Marvin Gaye
57. Gogol Bordello
56. The Replacements
55. My Bloody Valentine
54. Bo Diddley
53. Can
52. Sigur Ros
51. The National
50. Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds
49. Joanna Newsom
48. The Ramones
47. Rush
46. Beach Boys
45. Joao Gilberto
44. Talk Talk
43. Charles Mingus
42. Aphex Twin
41. Klaus Schulze
40. LCD Soundsystem
39. Neutral Milk Hotel
38. King Crimson
37. Olivia Tremor Control
36. Godspeed You! Black Emperor
35. The Strokes
34. John Coltrane
33. Animal Collective
32. Pixies
31. The Doors
30. Chuck Berry
29. Buena Vista Social Club
28. Nick Drake
27. The Antlers
26. Esperanza Spalding
25. Os Mutantes
24. Brian Eno
23. Laura Marling
22. Syd Barrett
21. Black Sabbath
20. Nat King Cole
19. Leadbelly
18. Tom Waits
17. Charlie Parker
16. St. Vincent
15. The Flaming Lips
14. Aretha Franklin
13. Bruce Springsteen
12. Bob Marley
11. Prince
10. The Clash
9. Radiohead
8. Talking Heads
7. Miles Davis
6. B.B. King
5. David Bowie
4. Pink Floyd
3. Jimi Hendrix
2. Bob Dylan
1. The Beatles

kind of a pleb top ten, I know, but it's an honest reflection of my feelings.
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1. Led Zeppelin
2. Simon and Garfunkel
3. Siouxsie and the Banshees
4. Pink Floyd
5. Kate Bush
6. Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds
7. Metallica
8. Swans
9. Allman Brothers
10. The New Pornographers
11. Jay-Z
12. Helloween
13. Genesis
14. Arcade Fire
15. The Beach Boys
16. David Bowie
17. Michael Jackson
18. Black Sabbath
19. Paul Simon
20. Depeche Mode
21. Fleetwood Mac
22. Electric Light orchestra
23. The Beatles
24. Blind Guardian
25. Neurosis
26. Frank Zappa
27. Motley Crue
28. Colour Haze
29. Alcest
30. Fleet Foxes
31. Elton John
32. Deep Purple
33. The Doobie Brothers
34. Sting
35. Van Halen
36. Billy Joel
37. Hawkwind
38. Yes
39. Otis Redding
40. Nightwish
41. Moonsorrow
42. Cocteau Twins
43. Monster Magnet
44. Vangelis
45. Iron Maiden
46. Stevie Wonder
47. Immortal
48. NoMeansNo
49. Lynyrd Skynyrd
50. Prince
51. Nina Simone
52. The Clash
53. The Flaming Lips
54. Heart
55. Johnny Cash
56. The Doors
57. Nirvana
58. Sepultura
59. The Rolling Stones
60. King Crimson
61. Enslaved
62. My Dying Bride
63. Brand New
64. Outkast
65. Sly and the Family Stone
66. Miles Davis
67. Ween
68. Portishead
69. Dream Theater
70. Blur
71. Rush
72. Siena Root
73. Herbert Von Karajan
74. Blut Aus Nord
75. Alice in Chains
76. Jimi Hendrix
77. Sleater-Kinney
78. Jeff Rosenstock
79. Eric Clapton
80. Tim Buckley
81. Godspeed You Black Emperor
82. Rhapsody
83. Blink-182
84. The Charlie Daniels Band
85. Tool
86. Trouble
87. Joni Mitchell
88. Death
89. John Coltrane
90. Coil
91. Herbie Hancock
92. Muddy Waters
93. Donovan
94. Fugazi
95. Tim Hecker
96. Dark Tranquility
97. Sleep
98. Summoning
99. Michael Chapman
100. Leonard Bernstein
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I think saying this another way it would be saying if you were to weigh each artist with their aggregated best albums according to your tastes, what would your top 100 look like?
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RoundTheBend wrote:
I think saying this another way it would be saying if you were to weigh each artist with their aggregated best albums according to your tastes, what would your top 100 look like?


Not even remotely. Many of my favorite artists never had a great studio album (Nat King Cole, Dean Martin, etc) or their greatest works were live performances (Aretha Frankling, B.B. King), but their overall impact on me and my musical taste, and to the development of music in general, is almost impossible to ignore.

However, if you want to use that method to rate your favored artists, that's fine. But it's not what I used at all.
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BozoTyrannus wrote:
Not even remotely. Many of my favorite artists never had a great studio album (Nat King Cole, Dean Martin, etc) or their greatest works were live performances (Aretha Frankling, B.B. King), but their overall impact on me and my musical taste, and to the development of music in general, is almost impossible to ignore.

However, if you want to use that method to rate your favored artists, that's fine. But it's not what I used at all.


Oh sorry - just trying to understand what the prompt is/what am I trying to do again?

Sorry for being slow/dumb.

Anyway, I kinda had an approach here that was more mathematical than it was from my heart, so I don't 100% agree with it, but it's an ok start and is easily missing a lot of music I love. I'd probably cheat and add a bunch of classical music as recorded by Bernstein with the New York Phil, and Karajan with the Berliner/Wiener Phil.

It also likely is missing non-album stuff like Billie Holiday or Glenn Miller, which is near and dear to my heart.

So this is like 60-80% accurate:

https://www.besteveralbums.com/thechart.php?c=10587
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Ranked these purely based on which artists I like most, with loose criteria (mostly used to help me rank them) of which artist I would choose if I could only listen to one of them going forward. I split up up The Microphones and Mount Eerie since BEA breaks them even though they're both basically Phil Elverum projects.

1. Modest Mouse
2. Songs: Ohia
3. Kanye West
4. AJJ (Andrew Jackson Jihad)
5. Sufjan Stevens
6. The Hold Steady
7. Danny Brown
8. Godspeed You! Black Emperor
9. Kendrick Lamar
10. Aesop Rock
11. billy woods
12. Queens of the Stone Age
13. Sun Kil Moon
14. Neil Young
15. Smog / Bill Callahan
16. The Dismemberment Plan
17. Wilco
18. Cloud Nothings
19. Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds
20. Husker Du
21. Sparklehorse
22. Erykah Badu
23. Built to Spill
24. Tom Waits
25. Notorious B.I.G.
26. Leonard Cohen
27. The National
28. The Velvet Underground
29. A Tribe Called Quest
30. The Replacements
31. Nirvana
32. The Beatles
33. Pavement
34. Talking Heads
35. Joni Mitchell
36. The Smiths
37. Guided by Voices
38. Phoebe Bridgers
39. Radiohead
40. David Bowie
41. Bob Dylan
42. Open Mike Eagle
43. The Flaming Lips
44. Low
45. William Onyeabor
46. Sonic Youth
47. Blanck Mass
48. Iron Maiden
49. Pinegrove
50. The Microphones
51. Outkast
52. BROCKHAMPTON
53. Lydia Loveless
54. Panopticon
55. Red House Painters
56. Lucinda Williams
57. Clipse
58. Sleater-Kinney
59. Mount Eerie
60. Jens Lekman
61. The Rolling Stones
62. Freddie Gibbs
63. Townes Van Zandt
64. Jason Isbell
65. Jay-Z
66. The Field
67. Scarface
68. Neutral Milk Hotel
69. John Prine
70. LCD Soundsystem
71. At the Drive-in
72. Kurt Vile
73. Liturgy
74. Dead Kennedys
75. Carissa's Wierd
76. Metallica
77. Nina Simone
78. Belle & Sebastian
79. Big Star
80. My Bloody Valentine
81. MF DOOM
82. Torres
83. Smashing Pumpkins
84. Unwound
85. Vince Staples
86. New Order
87. Joanna Newsom
88. Will Oldham (Bonnie "Prince" Billy, Palace Music, et al)
89. Stevie Wonder
90. Kraftwerk
91. Bruce Springsteen
92. Run the Jewels
93. Curtis Mayfield
94. R.E.M.
95. Arcade Fire
96. Boris
97. Kacey Musgraves
98. Elliott Smith
99. Carly Rae Jepsen
100. Tool
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For the record, as long as Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds make a couple more albums I could see them making it to the top 40. They're in like the 60s now and they weren't even top 100 before the last two albums. Anyhow, here's my list

1. Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds
2. The Birthday Party
3. Grinderman
4. Nick Cave & Warren Ellis
5. Nick Cave
6. The Boys Next Door
7. Einst├╝rzende Neubauten
8. Mick Harvey
9. Rowland S. Howard
10. Dirty Three

... Just kidding. I do want to participate it this, though. Gonna be very difficult. I always have trouble ranking bands like Joy Division against artists with much larger discographies and dozens of great songs, when the two studio albums they have still dwarf most of those artists' entire body of work.
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RoundTheBend wrote:
I think saying this another way it would be saying if you were to weigh each artist with their aggregated best albums according to your tastes, what would your top 100 look like?


That's an interesting way of ordering it. It might require a systematic approach, though. Plus, some bands might only have one album.
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Screw it. Not like I've got anything else to do...

1. Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds
2. Nina Simone
3. Miles Davis
4. Otis Redding
5. The Velvet Underground
6. Joy Division
7. Bob Dylan
8. Tom Waits
9. The Stooges
10. Leonard Cohen
11. David Bowie
12. John Coltrane
13. King Crimson
14. Godspeed You! Black Emperor
15. Nico
16. Death
17. Grateful Dead
18. Hank Williams
19. Kendrick Lamar
20. Black Sabbath
21. Sly and the Family Stone
22. Radiohead
23. Brian Eno
24. The Jimi Hendrix Experience
25. The Beatles
26. Townes Van Zandt
27. Bob Marley & The Wailers
28. Stevie Wonder
29. Talking Heads
30. DJ Shadow
31. Bjork
32. The Smiths
33. Talk Talk
34. Burial
35. Jefferson Airplane
36. Waylon Jennings
37. PJ Harvey
38. Marvin Gaye
39. Ulver
40. Joni Mitchell
41. Prince
42. Sufjan Stevens
43. The Cure
44. Cat Power
45. Judas Priest
46. Nick Drake
47. Aretha Franklin
48. Charles Mingus
49. Emmylou Harris
50. Boards of Canada
51. Led Zeppelin
52. Frank Zappa / The Mothers of Invention
53. The Byrds
54. Iron Maiden
55. Portishead
56. Simon & Garfunkel
57. Sam Cooke
58. Dwight Yoakum
59. My Bloody Valentine
60. Kate Bush
61. Tortoise
62. Herbie Hancock
63. The Birthday Party
64. The Kinks
65. Tool
66. Aphex Twin
67. Loretta Lynn
68. BROCKHAMPTON
69. Neil Young
70. Yes
71. Angel Olsen
72. Pertubator
73. Kraftwerk
74. The Flaming Lips
75. Patsy Cline
76. Billie Holiday
77. Sigur Ros
78. Deep Purple
79. Joanna Newsom
80. Motorhead
81. Bathory
82. Chuck Berry
83. A Tribe Called Quest
84. The Doors
85. Ella Fitzgerald
86. Pink Floyd
87. Love
88. The Four Tops
89. Grinderman
90. Swans
91. The Radio Dept
92. Emperor
93. Pixies
94. Jim Croce
95. The Pogues
96. John Prine
97. Possessed
98. The Supremes
99. Guided By Voices
100. Elvis Presley

2-3 hours later

That was basically impossible to do after the top 10 or 15. If I tried again tomorrow it would be a completely different list outside of the top 5.
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