Buying music and illegal downloading

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Copying does produce additional versions but it steals revenues from the owners of the itellectual property.

*Since peer-to-peer (p2p) file-sharing site Napster emerged in 1999, music sales in the U.S. have dropped 53 percent, from $14.6 billion to $6.9 billion in 2010.
*From 2004 through 2009 alone, approximately 30 billion songs were illegally downloaded on file-sharing networks.
*NPD reports that only 37 percent of music acquired by U.S. consumers in 2009 was paid for.
*According to the Information Technology & Innovation Foundation, the digital theft of music, movies and copyrighted content takes up huge amounts of Internet bandwidth – 24 percent globally, and 17.5 percent in the U.S.
*Digital storage locker downloads constitute 7 percent of all Internet traffic, while 91 percent of the links found on them were for copyrighted material, and 10 percent of those links were to music specifically, according to a 2011 Envisional study.
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I understand the "I download first, buy it later" argument... I've done it myself. However, how many people who say they'll buy the music if they like it actually do it? I'm sure many who download use that argument as moral justification, but don't practice what they preach.
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junodog4 wrote:
I understand the "I download first, buy it later" argument... I've done it myself. However, how many people who say they'll buy the music if they like it actually do it? I'm sure many who download use that argument as moral justification, but don't practice what they preach.



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junodog4 wrote:
I understand the "I download first, buy it later" argument... I've done it myself. However, how many people who say they'll buy the music if they like it actually do it? I'm sure many who download use that argument as moral justification, but don't practice what they preach.


I do...

Recently bought El Camino after downloading it.

Okay, not every album I download I will want to have. I use it almost as research before considering purchase.
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For those anti-downloaders here, what do they feel about buying used albums? You're still robbing your artist of choice of their profit, aren't you?
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For those anti-downloaders here, what do they feel about buying used albums? You're still robbing your artist of choice of their profit, aren't you?



It's not the same for the artist did make money on the original purchase of the album.
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GARY wrote:
Jackwc wrote:
For those anti-downloaders here, what do they feel about buying used albums? You're still robbing your artist of choice of their profit, aren't you?



It's not the same for the artist did make money on the original purchase of the album.


So, by that logic, I could buy an artist's CD, rip the songs onto my computer. Give the CD to my friend, let him rip all the songs. We then continuously sell and lend the CD around until all our friends have ripped the CD onto their personal computers.

What's the difference?
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GARY wrote:
Jackwc wrote:
For those anti-downloaders here, what do they feel about buying used albums? You're still robbing your artist of choice of their profit, aren't you?



It's not the same for the artist did make money on the original purchase of the album.


I stole a used copy of Radiohead's Kid A...

Is that ok? Anxious
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Pay to Play. Stop hurting the artists, producers, publishers, label, etc.

Sorry if you can't afford to get legal copies but theft is theft. How would you like your possessions stolen from you just because the thief couldn't afford to buy his own?


If I ever managed to create a piece of music that someone else might actually want to listen to then I might slightly resent that they were getting it for free but I'd rather they had it for free than not at all.

It's not exactly the same as stealing though is it? If you rob somebody's car then you deprive them of the car. If you download a copy of some music you don't actually deprive anybody of anything, they don't actually have less than they did before do they? Ok so they've lost the ability to demand money for their art but they should be chuffed I'm listening to it all.
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They are both theft. In your examples, theft of personal property and theft of itellectual property.
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