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| Poll: Which approach to guitar playing do you prefer? |
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| Musical Training (can read music, etc) |
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33% |
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| No Musical Training (can't read music, etc) |
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66% |
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| Total Votes : 9 |
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Jasonconfused
If We Make It We Can All Sit Back and Laugh
Gender: Male
Location: Washington
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- #1
- Posted: 11/20/2012 19:15
- Post subject: Guitar approach.
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Just to make it clear what I'm referring to, I'm talking about guitar players that are self-taught and have little or no knowledge of things like being able to read music (i.e. Jimi Hendrix, Eddie Van Halen, etc.)
Or do you prefer players that are musically trained (i.e. Frank Zappa, Joe Satriani, etc.)
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Puncture Repair
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- #2
- Posted: 11/20/2012 19:44
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Both are great, but often those who don't have lessons are much more tuned naturally to what sounds good, whereas those with lessons go based heavily on what should mathematically work, which can come across as a little too perfect at times, or too robotic. They tend to overcomplicate things a little as well.
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Jasonconfused
If We Make It We Can All Sit Back and Laugh
Gender: Male
Location: Washington
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- #3
- Posted: 11/20/2012 19:47
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| Puncture Repair wrote: | | Both are great, but often those who don't have lessons are much more tuned naturally to what sounds good, whereas those with lessons go based heavily on what should mathematically work, which can come across as a little too perfect at times, or too robotic. They tend to overcomplicate things a little as well. |
Good point you make. I think some of those heavily trained people eventually figure it out though. I saw a Frank Zappa documentary where he says that he started writing music but actually writing it all out first and then playing it. He said it all looked good on paper but then when he played it it sounded like crap so he had to alter his strategy. I also enjoy both styles very much though.
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Romanelli
Bone Swah
Gender: Male
Location: Broomfield, Colorado
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- #4
- Posted: 11/20/2012 19:49
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After many hours listening to miserable auditions, my new rule years ago became:
Must not have graduated from The Musicians Institute (ask before setting audition).
The quality of auditions immediately increased. A lot.
As far as what I listen to, I don't care. The real question is:
Do you feel the music you are playing?
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'Fore the devil knows we're dead...
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thejoj96
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- #5
- Posted: 11/20/2012 20:56
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if they sound good
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alelsupreme
Awful.
Gender: Male
Age: 27
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- #6
- Posted: 11/20/2012 20:58
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| thejoj96 wrote: | | if they sound good |
this.
also joj why is beefheart your avatar if you hate TMR?
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thejoj96
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- #7
- Posted: 11/20/2012 21:02
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| itsit wrote: | this.
also joj why is beefheart your avatar if you hate TMR? |
Because I like most of his other stuff.
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Happymeal
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- Posted: 11/20/2012 21:07
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Dunno. If something sounds good, then it does. Actually, Van Halen is one of my most hated bands, but the guitar work is fast and what not, but it just doesn't do it for me. Neither does Jimi Hendrix, but I tend to like his music.
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alelsupreme
Awful.
Gender: Male
Age: 27
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- #9
- Posted: 11/20/2012 21:10
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| thejoj96 wrote: | | Because I like most of his other stuff. |
fair enough. just seemed kinda odd.
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Yourselfisntsteam
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- #10
- Posted: 11/20/2012 21:50
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| Puncture Repair wrote: | | Both are great, but often those who don't have lessons are much more tuned naturally to what sounds good, whereas those with lessons go based heavily on what should mathematically work, which can come across as a little too perfect at times, or too robotic. They tend to overcomplicate things a little as well. |
on the other hand someone without musical training may be more likely to fall into obvious cliches of "what sounds good" without realizing it....or be limited because minimal knowledge prevents them from transcending simple structures. Someone with a deep understanding of how music works might know better how to create varying chord progressions, longer melodic development ect.
just trying to show the other side.
It really shouldn't matter, as long what one knows is conducive to some creativity or uniqueness. I doubt a punk musician could have written what Zappa has, and I doubt some schooled jazz guitarist could do what some crazy noise/psychedelic musicians have.
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