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Kool Keith Sweat
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- #9281
- Posted: 11/18/2017 16:11
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Big news for streamers: ECM's catalog is now available on most major platforms.
2017 has been a strong year for the label, with excellent releases from Roscoe Mitchell, Craig Taborn, and the Vijay Iyer Sextet
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Hayden
Location: CDMX
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RoundTheBend
I miss the comfort in being sad
Location: Ground Control
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- #9283
- Posted: 12/02/2017 21:13
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https://www.theguardian.com/music/2012/...im-outrage
Decent article helping me understand why people were upset and why black South Africans were on both sides of the fence. it's a difficult thing because on one hand you have a claim of a white man (a Jew really) celebrating African culture and music and on the other hand you have a claim that a white man exploited African culture and music. And really both could be true.
This album is in my top 10. I grew up on it and it still is an exciting listen - lyrically and musically. I'm torn to replace it by another Simon album.
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Anti
I Dream of Drone
Age: 28
Location: Somewhere in Ohio
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- #9284
- Posted: 12/04/2017 02:19
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Several Girls Galore is such an under-appreciated My Bloody Valentine song, god damn it's so fun to listen to. _________________ ...and for dessert!
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Hayden
Location: CDMX
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boyd94
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- #9286
- Posted: 12/05/2017 21:14
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Before I waste any more of my time - I've listened to the first half of Twin Infinitives by Royal Trux, is it just more of the same or is there something to listen to here?
This isn't just 'difficult' or 'challenging', in the way that Trout Mask Replica is or free jazz can be. It's just painful. The emperor has no clothes.
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Gender: Female
Age: 38
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- #9287
- Posted: 12/05/2017 21:32
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if something is supposed to be difficult or challenging then why would you expect it to be something you enjoy after less than 1 listen?
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AfterHours
Gender: Male
Location: originally from scaruffi.com ;-)
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- #9288
- Posted: 12/05/2017 21:38
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boyd94 wrote: | Before I waste any more of my time - I've listened to the first half of Twin Infinitives by Royal Trux, is it just more of the same or is there something to listen to here?
This isn't just 'difficult' or 'challenging', in the way that Trout Mask Replica is or free jazz can be. It's just painful. The emperor has no clothes. |
Hard to give you any sort of recommendations without being able to see your charts/favorites.
The album is a massive chaos and distortion of various genres and sub-genres to the point that they are virtually unrecognizable, submerged in a black pit of oblivion and devastated by unrelenting folly, hysteria/paranoia/surrealism and violence.
Albums such as Trout Mask Replica, Zappa's Uncle Meat, Exile On Main Street, White Light/White Heat, Chrome's Half Machine Lip Moves, Pere Ubu's Modern Dance, Can's Tago Mago, Faust... are all touchstones. A good deal of experience in free/avant-garde jazz helps immensely (Sun Ra, Borbetomagus, Franz Koglmann, Ivo Perelman, Sam Rivers' most ambitious works...) _________________ Best Classical
Best Films
Best Paintings
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DJTommy
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- #9289
- Posted: 12/05/2017 21:39
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None of them has Flower Boy SMH
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boyd94
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- #9290
- Posted: 12/06/2017 08:14
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Tap wrote: | if something is supposed to be difficult or challenging then why would you expect it to be something you enjoy after less than 1 listen? |
I don't. I've been listening to a lot of free jazz lately and I enjoy almost none of it on first listen. But there's something discernible as music in the chaos, an appreciation of the emotional endeavour underlying the form, not to mention a sense of awe-inspiring talent.
There's none of that here as far as I can hear. It's not even challenging or arresting, just boring and annoying.
AfterHours wrote: | boyd94 wrote: | Before I waste any more of my time - I've listened to the first half of Twin Infinitives by Royal Trux, is it just more of the same or is there something to listen to here?
This isn't just 'difficult' or 'challenging', in the way that Trout Mask Replica is or free jazz can be. It's just painful. The emperor has no clothes. |
Hard to give you any sort of recommendations without being able to see your charts/favorites.
The album is a massive chaos and distortion of various genres and sub-genres to the point that they are virtually unrecognizable, submerged in a black pit of oblivion and devastated by unrelenting folly, hysteria/paranoia/surrealism and violence.
Albums such as Trout Mask Replica, Zappa's Uncle Meat, Exile On Main Street, White Light/White Heat, Chrome's Half Machine Lip Moves, Pere Ubu's Modern Dance, Can's Tago Mago, Faust... are all touchstones. A good deal of experience in free/avant-garde jazz helps immensely (Sun Ra, Borbetomagus, Franz Koglmann, Ivo Perelman, Sam Rivers' most ambitious works...) |
I'm a big fan of Beefheart, Velvet Underground, Pere Ubu, Can and Faust. Labelled noise, I would've been happy to hear some early Sonic Youth type thing. I can hear some resemblance to Throbbing Gristle.
I'll give the second half a spin and maybe revisit it in a few weeks. It's acclaimed enough by folks whose taste I respect for me to give it another shot.
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