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Freddie55
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- #31
- Posted: 02/05/2010 23:57
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The Emmy Awards have also gone to a committee or panel to finalize the nominees list. However, they do go to the general membership first.
"The prime-time Emmys hope to veer away from rounding up the usual suspects by having a blue-ribbon panel determine the nominees after reviewing tapes from the top 10 to 15 vote-getters. Under the revised rules, panels will pick the five nominees for comedy and drama series from 10 front-runners as decided by a vote of the academy's general membership. Acting nominees will be chosen by a panel from among the top vote-getters – 15, in this instance. Previously, leading vote-getters in the general vote were the final nominees."
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RFNAPLES
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- #32
- Posted: 02/06/2010 00:05
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And how many prime-time TV shows are there in a given year?
The GRAMMY Awards take submissions from members and companies. An expert panel determines the correct category of the submissions. The voting members choose the top 5 in each category. The voting members again choose the winners by plurality from among the top 5. It works for them.
You may continue to choose to disagree with the results, but they are the results of a ballot of professional members. _________________ Top 100 Greatest Music Albums by RFNAPLES
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RFNAPLES
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- #33
- Posted: 02/06/2010 00:21
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“It was all there: anger, love, forgiveness, family, community and the deepest sense of history... Here was the full power of American music challenging my arrogance. I watched the rest of the show with new eyes. The Grammys invited jazz, country, rock, soul and classical into the same hall. No regard for demographic studies of what would deliver ratings, no radio call-out research-- a mad amalgam of the profound and the absurd and the creeping realization that one man's Mozart is another man's Vegas." - Bono (U2) _________________ Top 100 Greatest Music Albums by RFNAPLES
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Freddie55
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- Posted: 02/06/2010 00:24
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The Emmys changed their process in 2006 to break the stranglehold that the major networks had on the nomination process. With the change they opened the door to cable shows which as we all know have had significant success since then at getting to the podium because of the change. If the Grammys changed their nomination process the playing field could open up to many worthy independent artists who are currently being shut out. Also, my understanding of the Grammys is that most of the voters are not performing artists.
From Wikipedia:
"The Producers and Engineers Wing (P&E Wing) is a part of the academy made up of producers, engineers, mixers, and other technically involved professionals. It is comprised of almost 6,000 members. The producers and Engineers wing addresses various aspects of issues facing the recording profession. They also support music and recording arts education. The P&E Wing also advocates for the use of professional usage of recording technology as well as the preservation of recordings. The members of this division make up a large portion of those who vote on the Grammy Awards each year."
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RFNAPLES
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- Posted: 02/06/2010 00:36
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Recording Academy voting members are professionals with creative or technical credits on six commercially released tracks (or their equivalent). These may include vocalists, conductors, songwriters, composers, engineers, producers, instrumentalists, arrangers, art directors, album notes writers, narrators, and music video artists and technicians. Record companies do not vote.
Special Nominating Committees
In craft and other specialized categories, final nominations are determined by national nomination review committees comprised of voting members from all of The Academy's Chapter cities. _________________ Top 100 Greatest Music Albums by RFNAPLES
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purple
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- Posted: 02/06/2010 02:11
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I hate to end an argument, but really (to start a new one), Taylor Swift isn't going to have any influence over music ten years from now; influence that the likes of the Velvets and Joy Division and countless unaccounted (except in small circles) others have had. The Grammies, like the Oscars (for sake of relation to another recent award show) pick acts that are currently popular and readily identified with fame; they do not pick truly artistic acts (or films) which actually end up having more influence several years after they were made... (Who the fuck remembers Crash, or MTV Unplugged: Tony Bennet?). So the message is: THE GRAMMIES ARE BUNK!!!
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RFNAPLES
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- Posted: 02/06/2010 02:30
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truth is, I don't think anyone gives a fuck about the industry, but cares about the artists themselves
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RFNAPLES
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- #39
- Posted: 02/06/2010 02:54
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But the artists care about the industry and the GRAMMY Awards.
CBS’s broadcast of THE 52ND ANNUAL GRAMMY AWARDS was the week’s No. 1 program in viewers, adults 18-49 and adults 18-34, leading the Network to a first place finish in viewers and adults 25-54, according to Nielsen live plus same day ratings for the week ending Jan. 31, week 19 of the 2009-2010 television season.
Nielsen Media Research estimates that over 60 million viewers watched all or part of the broadcast. _________________ Top 100 Greatest Music Albums by RFNAPLES
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Mr. Shankly
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- Posted: 02/08/2010 18:30
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RFNAPLES wrote: | But the artists care about the industry and the GRAMMY Awards.
CBS’s broadcast of THE 52ND ANNUAL GRAMMY AWARDS was the week’s No. 1 program in viewers, adults 18-49 and adults 18-34, leading the Network to a first place finish in viewers and adults 25-54, according to Nielsen live plus same day ratings for the week ending Jan. 31, week 19 of the 2009-2010 television season.
Nielsen Media Research estimates that over 60 million viewers watched all or part of the broadcast. |
Right, I forgot. Society determines what's good. Never mind that the average population of adults reads at an 8th grade level. You know what else is a highly watched program? American Idol. Enough said.
When one looks at influentialness (the true measure of greatness?), the criteria that Purple addressed, the Grammy's is still a sad state of affairs from a serious music fan's perspective.
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