And BTW before it becomes an issue of its own, I did not make my comments about the age thing in order to dig up the intergenerational divide.
I clearly feel that Peter's Genesis and Phil's Genesis (particualrly after Hackett's departure) are different enough to nearly be 2 bands and any combination becomes possible, (loving one, hating the other, loving both, loving one, only liking the other ...).
As such, this makes Genesis a band which will have less coherence among its fanbase than typical bands.
I personally am a Peter fan and i can accept the post-75 Genesis only if I accept to consider it as a new band. I do a little of the same with Yes pre and post 90125. But I can totally understand the appeal of Phil's Genesis and even to call it Phil's or Peter's Genesis is something i do for convenience because, truth of the matter, the other members were always very active and an integral part of the band and the sound.
And BTW before it becomes an issue of its own, I did not make my comments about the age thing in order to dig up the intergenerational divide.
I clearly feel that Peter's Genesis and Phil's Genesis (particualrly after Hackett's departure) are different enough to nearly be 2 bands and any combination becomes possible, (loving one, hating the other, loving both, loving one, only liking the other ...).
As such, this makes Genesis a band which will have less coherence among its fanbase than typical bands.
I personally am a Peter fan and i can accept the post-75 Genesis only if I accept to consider it as a new band. I do a little of the same with Yes pre and post 90125. But I can totally understand the appeal of Phil's Genesis and even to call it Phil's or Peter's Genesis is something i do for convenience because, truth of the matter, the other members were always very active and an integral part of the band and the sound.
Mostly true, except i think ATOTT and W&W are still played in the style of the gabriel-era genesis, especially ATOTT. But definitely ATTWT-and-on are "post-gabriel".
I consider ATTOT, W&W & ATTWT as the transitional genesis period. Trick and Wuthering still have enough prog-genesis to sound like the gabriel era. ATTWT though sounds like a completely-collaborative effort between the 3 remaining members, as opposed to the phil-dominated sound starting with Duke. _________________ fav artists NOW | ALL-TIME favs | i listen 2 more music than u so u don't have 2!
Mostly true, except i think ATOTT and W&W are still played in the style of the gabriel-era genesis, especially ATOTT. But definitely ATTWT-and-on are "post-gabriel".
I consider ATTOT, W&W & ATTWT as the transitional genesis period. Trick and Wuthering still have enough prog-genesis to sound like the gabriel era. ATTWT though sounds like a completely-collaborative effort between the 3 remaining members, as opposed to the phil-dominated sound starting with Duke.
I agree that I seem to be the only one who puts the cut with the departure of Gabriel. Everyone I know puts it at the departure of Hackett. It's just that for whatever reason, Wind and Wuthering is one of those albums which I feel I should love but for some mysterious reason I never got.
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