There were some great albums released within the Grammy season. I'd probably say The War On Drugs' release was the best of them, I've really enjoyed that album.
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The fact the grammys schedule allows for us to include a 2013 record in awarding 2014 excellence is a little annoying from my perspective, but that's one of only so many issues with the grammys that I have. As far of my opinions on the 2013 record in question? It's a good record and certainly Beyonce's peak so far in her career, but I'm not convinced of it being some revolutionary or high quality creative expressive piece in general; should Beyonce be recognized of making something cohesive rather than a collection of songs? Maybe, but the hype that still surrounds it reminds me of Kanye's My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy in the sense of this bloated community reaction and that's definitely not good for me.
Admittedly I've only listened to it maybe twice, so maybe the third listen will be what I need to really absorb the record in the way everyone else here seems to.
Then again, I actually liked Morning Phase and everyone seems to love trashing it, so I don't know. Maybe I'm just the anomaly here.
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Good luck with that. If you want, I'm pretty sure the album's Wikipedia page will contain information on record sales, chart positions, and critical evaluations.
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Not sure why "sexiness" makes an album good, anyways.
The point wasn't that 'sexy = good', but rather that the way in which she so brazenly and openly displays her sexuality on this record, in a real, human way - from the 'let's worry about it tomorrow' feeling of drunken flings, to the joy of finding somebody with whom you can share your most ecstatic, euphoric physical moments and be completely comfortable, to that gnawing feeling that you're not as handsome or as beautiful as you wish you were, to the nature of compromise and its potential pitfalls in a sexual, potentially loving relationship - says more about what it means to be human than any number of tired platitudes about the abstract concept of "love". Add this to the album's sleek, ultra-contemporary production, and it makes for an interesting dichotomy - the idea of our base, feral emotions vs. the considered image of ourselves which we choose to show to the world.
(It also manages to pull off that rare trick of having every track feel as though it's part of a larger piece, but also having every track strong and distinctive enough that it could stand alone as a single, which I guess was implicitly alluded to with her decision to release the album as an almost feature length collection of music videos.)
But if you don't like it, I guess that's just bad luck. _________________ 2021 in full effect. Come drop me some recs. Y'all know what I like.
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There were some great albums released within the Grammy season. I'd probably say The War On Drugs' release was the best of them, I've really enjoyed that album.
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I mean of the choices in the category. I would of loved to see Benji win, but I know that isn't happening. _________________ Doubles & Conch
The point wasn't that 'sexy = good', but rather that the way in which she so brazenly and openly displays her sexuality on this record
I can appreciate why you find that interesting, but my values are a bit more traditional. I'd say the open sexual nature of the record pushes me away from it to at least some degree...I'll probably be skewered here for that. My morals just don't align well with Beyonce (and her assistants') writing.
I mean of the choices in the category. I would of loved to see Benji win, but I know that isn't happening.
Out of the five for album of the year? Yeah, I'd say Beyonce far earns it over Sam Smith, Ed Sheeran, and Pharrell Williams. It's also the most cohesive of those artist's albums, most certainly.
I can appreciate why you find that interesting, but my values are a bit more traditional. I'd say the open sexual nature of the record pushes me away from it to at least some degree...I'll probably be skewered here for that. My morals just don't align well with Beyonce (and her assistant's) writing.
You keep mentioning her "assistants" as though the vast majority of artists across most mediums don't seek help and inspiration from the people around them. You think Bob Dylan never got stuck for a line in a song and turned to somebody else in the room to see if they could come up with anything? You think Scorsese ignored every bit of help or advice or suggestion from his camera crew? This idea that an artist's work is somehow lessened because it was achieved in tandem with other people is fucking ridiculous, frankly. Yeah, Beyonce almost certainly had more input from others when it came to making her album than Beck did, but that doesn't mean that the album wasn't her artistic statement. _________________ 2021 in full effect. Come drop me some recs. Y'all know what I like.
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