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HoldenM wrote:
To steer the conversation another wayโ€“which records, artists, or songs are we overestimating? Which presently beloved entities will likely fail to stand the test of time?


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For rock music, I genuinely don't see a single rock artist working today as standing the test of time. I think that as we get farther and farther away in time from Swans's latest material, more and more people will do what Scaruffi's doing and realize that it's ultimately bland, lifeless, and overdone material that doesn't really compare to their back catalog too well. I think that a general fondness for nostalgia in rock music, epitomized by groups like Tame Impala and Vampire Weekend, is going to doom this era to irrelevance in serious historical retrospectives of the genre. But the eighties somehow yielded a lot of great rock music that no one was hearing anywhere, so maybe I'm over-estimating the purview of the Internet to expose me to the stuff that might be dug up to match the Husker Dus and Butthole Surfers that happened in that venerable wasteland of decent rock music.


I would add that I think (hope?) Death Grips, Deafheaven, and Disclosure will all fail to stand the test of time, mainly based on the fact that I think they scratch a fashion itch to have #diverse #eclectic taste for people who don't spend much time on their respective genres and influences. Hell, we're already seeing the slow slide into critical backlash happening for that last one, and none of the three are taken very seriously by serious audiences for their respective styles of music at the moment, let alone in the future when those people's palettes are going to need to be satiated for them to maintain their place in history.
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You know, I just don't get all the hype for Drake. People talk about him like he is incredible and I just don't see it. I know there are a lot of fans of his in the forums but I must be missing something. I don't think he will be remembered as one of the greats like the world is making him seem.


And to be clear I don't even hate all of his music. My friends have shown some good tracks of his, but nothing that really stuck out to me like others.
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AAL2014 wrote:
I don't think [Drake] will be remembered as one of the greats like the world is making him seem.


especially not with Meaghan Garvey's key critical voice breaking up with him. it's only a matter of time before he fries.
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What constitutes failing the test of time though? People really love remembering things, I'm not sure if it's possible to fail the test once something has reached a certain level of popularity.
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Tap wrote:
What constitutes failing the test of time though? People really love remembering things, I'm not sure if it's possible to fail the test once something has reached a certain level of popularity.


Agreed in full, my paragraph on Drake wasn't necessarily about him standing the test of time, I can see some of his material achieving that, but rather him reaching legend status or anywhere near it.
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People seem to be neglecting the fact that in the future our aquatic underlords will be dictating the new musical canon, and I have it on good authority that they are big fans of chillwave.
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SquishypuffDave wrote:
People seem to be neglecting the fact that in the future our aquatic underlords will be dictating the new musical canon, and I have it on good authority that they are big fans of chillwave.


I've agreed since Day 1 that

Goodbye Lullaby by Avril Lavigne is a sea-punk Blood on the Tracks. That's gotta be accepted into he canon, right?
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drizzy will live on, forget the fork

still don't see how he will fry anytime soon

but then again i'm basically the biggest Drake stan there is


edit: to tylerbae: does pitchfork really matter when it comes to mainstream artists? esp. if it is just one writer?
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please refrain from the impulse to call me "tylerbae" in the future
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