ALC16 #6: Breadwoman & Other Tales

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track 6 seems unreleased though and 7 I can't find any record of the release it came from supposedly, so I think it's fair to consider this a 2016 release.


So any artist can remaster/rerecord the majority of their album from 30 years ago and slap two new songs on the end of it and its considered a new release?

C'mon. That's utter nonsense.


Technically, it's probably best described as a reissue with bonus material, but since it's not super well known and the reissue came out in 2016, I have zero problem with this being considered a 2016 release for the sake of ALC16.

If it were something like a Zeppelin reissue, that'd obviously be a different story.
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If it were something like a Zeppelin reissue, that'd obviously be a different story.


Why? Because it happens to be obscure comparatively? I think that's a bit of a leap and unfair to actual LP's created for 2016. But again, I'm just being pedantic apparently.
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If it were something like a Zeppelin reissue, that'd obviously be a different story.


Why? Because it happens to be obscure comparatively?


Yes, that's precisely the reason. Many reissues barely even existed in their previous life. The point of reissues like this is to bring light to something that never got the chance the first time around. The point of other reissues (like a remaster of a Beatles record) is to make a buck.

Here's an example for you:


Trotro by DJ Katapila

This record has essentially existed on a tape somewhere in Ghana for a while now, but only a handful of people ever heard it before Awesome Tapes released it this year.

I'm simply interested in finding music I like. What year it technically came out matters none.
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Yeah, I get that. But for the sake of me continuing to be pedantic: I consider a 2016 release to be something made for 2016, no reissues... no remasters... etc. I will still listen and like to be aware of reissues/remasters, but I will not consider them 2016 releases and in a discussion about music of 2016 it should pertain to music of 2016.

Am I making any sense?
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It's also highly unlikely that whatever weird outsider cassette tape s getting pieced together somewhere right now in 2016 is gonna get exposure in these threads. I welcome the variety of styles that get opened up if we let reissues of music we're unlikely to have heard to step in once in awhile. Ben Zimmerman's compilation was one of my highlights of last year, and I would have been more than happy to get exposed to that in one of these threads.
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Gowi wrote:
Yeah, I get that. But for the sake of me continuing to be pedantic: I consider a 2016 release to be something made for 2016, no reissues... no remasters... etc. I will still listen and like to be aware of reissues/remasters, but I will not consider them 2016 releases and in a discussion about music of 2016 it should pertain to music of 2016.

Am I making any sense?


You're not being pedantic enough. It is indeed a 2016 release by definition that it was released in 2016. You're confusing date of release with date of creation.

If a band records an album in late 2013, and then takes a while to find a record label, press vinyl copies, etc, and the release ends up not coming out until 2016, is it still a 2016 release in your eyes?
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meccalecca wrote:
Gowi wrote:
Yeah, I get that. But for the sake of me continuing to be pedantic: I consider a 2016 release to be something made for 2016, no reissues... no remasters... etc. I will still listen and like to be aware of reissues/remasters, but I will not consider them 2016 releases and in a discussion about music of 2016 it should pertain to music of 2016.

Am I making any sense?


You're not being pedantic enough. It is indeed a 2016 release by definition that it was released in 2016. You're confusing date of release with date of creation.

If a band records an album in late 2013, and then takes a while to find a record label, press vinyl copies, etc, and the release ends up not coming out until 2016, is it still a 2016 release in your eyes?


Is it the original release of the art? Yes.

I go by how RYM and IMDB-like sites define year of release for film.
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Aw, shucks, well I guess you're gonna be mad if I make my next ALC This Heat's Deceit like I was planning ๐Ÿ™
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Gowi wrote:

I go by how RYM and IMDB-like sites define year of release for film.


RYM wrote:
Breadwoman & Other Tales
Released: February 5, 2016

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Now that's being even more pedantic. You know the main issue of Breadwoman as per RYM is 1985 and don't pretend because it got reissued as "Breadwoman & Other Tales" it makes it different. You are just taking my framework and manipulating it so it looks like I'm stating a logical fallacy in an attempt to condescend what I'm saying which I really don't fucking approve of.

I truly thought you had more respect for me than that.

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