Point of Discussion: The Development of Punk

RockyRaccoon · 2016-03-16T12:57:36-04:00

POINT OF DISCUSSION This is Point of Discussion, a thread for people to discuss issues and topics related to music in a thoughtful and productive way. The goal of this is to make you think, to make you take a look at what you believe, why you believe it, and what others believe. Good discussion is the key to any society, and this is a place where, hopefully, that can be fostered. If you would like a certain topic to be discussed or question to be posed, PM me or post here and I'll toss it in when I can. All of that being said, there are a few guidelines. The Guidelines: 1. Don't be a dick - it's fairly simple, just be civil. Say what you want, believe what you want to believe, that's fine, just don't be a dick about it. 2. All opinions are welcome - no matter how unpopular you may think your opinion is (or how unpopular it eventually proves to be), post it. It's welcome. Just be prepared to defend that opinion if it's challenged. 3. There are no wrong opinions - like, it's literally impossible. These are opinions, so no matter how strongly you feel about it, it's neither right nor wrong, it's just an opinion, so keep that in mind. 4. The conversation can go anywhere - even if the discussion goes off of the original topic, that's fine. All kinds of tangents are possible, just try to keep it semi-relevant. The Topic: Again courtesy of satie, a reassessment of the rise of punk music This came up a bit in another thread, where we talked about the spirit of punk, but it seems pretty amorphous to me. For some people, it's working class resistance to neoliberalism in the '80s, but for others, it's right-wing racist reactionary nonsense that took advantage of economic precarity during that era. For others (like me), it's more of an attitude towards music rather than a strict genre classification and serves as the root of a host of genres that aren't particularly sloppily played or reliant on political posturing, from art rock to new wave to post-punk to noise rock and beyond. I think basically this boils down to, what is "punk" in the abstract? Not necessarily the genre, but the movement.

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