Swedish innit. And not Britpop, more indie-pop. Completely different aesthetic.
Yeah, but see earlier discussion: did the Cardigans crash the Britpop party? It's a debatable one but I'm thinking of including them to show open-mindedness towards international bands. I agree it's a different aesthetic but Britpop had a range of aesthetics. The irony and heavily retro feel to that album meant it resonated with Britpop fans. Plus they cover Sabbath!!
It just occurred to me that if anything they were more like ABBA. Especially on that hit they had which I can't remember the name but it went " love me love me" or something like that. Sounded like Abba circa 1976. Which isn't necessarily a bad horrible thing.
It's actually not that bad. I'm listening to it. Moonage Daydream, Heroes and Ziggy Stardust are pretty fucking awesome!! Ziggy Stardust even has Farfisa organ in it!! Ha ha.
And Surfer Jet City really rocks.
To say they ‘crashed Britpop’ is, quite frankly, ludicrous talk. For starters, how can a band whose first album (Emmerdale) pre-dated both Parklife and anything Oasis did be seen to be jumping on a bandwagon?
Well, I don't think they copied any kind of britpop sound at all. But saying they 'crashed the party' is merely a way of saying that they/the record label saw the opportunity of success in the UK at this point due to similarieties in their music to what was going on-so marketed and toured extensively in the UK at this time. I've no evidence that they actually did this-its just guesswork. I remember the Wannadies on TFI and touring with UK bands but dont know if the Cardigans did this.
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If anything they were more indebted to the British jangle-pop/indie-pop scene of the late 80s-very early 90s (Sarah, Subway, Lazy and the like) than any ‘Britpop’ ‘show-us-your-power-chords’ banner that you’re trying to nail to them.
I don't know any of these labels to respond that helpfully to this.Though the most jangly 80s sounding britpop album I've heard is 'Way beyond Blue' by Catatonia. The only track on Life I can think of that reminds me of this era is 'Rise and Shine', which I think is one Emmerdale tracks put on the UK version. To me, Life sounds incredibly 60s, girly and stylish. It has a lounge-pop thing going on (not sure if that is the right term). I'm also getting bits of girl-groups/ Motown and even a small amount of 60s psych in some of the guitar and organ/keyboard tones. This creates a vibe that is quite swinging sixties London in its feel to me. Though I think you could say the music is equally British/ American sounding really.
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If anything The Cardigans showed an alternative to the lager-swilling, arse-grabbing, laddish behaviour that inspired all indie kids of the day to walk around like Liam Gallagher.
Thank goodness 😄
Actually, I still want to have some discussion of laddism in britpop. That seems worth talking about.
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If they were anything, they were anti-Britpop, and gave fey, foppish indie boys someone to drool over and pretend to make daisy chains with in a Gothenburg municipal park. You couldn’t do that with Justine Frischmann - she’d punch your lights out. And frankly, if “Lovefool” hadn’t been on that Romeo and Juliet flick they would have been long forgotten.
I don't really agree with this. They come across as savvy and commercially minded to me. They were pretty successful. Yes, because of Lovefool. But their main barrier to success prior to that was being clever and musically sophisticated, not because they were better suited to bedsit romantic types. I would say the emotion in their music is too slick and contrived for that kind of listener.
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Nah, The Cardigans were closer to baroque pop than Britpop, and if you want an example of Swedish Britpop icon (if such a thing exists) you need look no further than Ulrika Jonsson on Shooting Stars.
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Appreciate you trying to broaden the debate, but don’t labour under the false apprehension that there were a load of Britpop bands from overseas, or at least had a similar sound. Most were more likely to rip of The Fall anyway.
Yeah I dont think there were a load of oversees Britpop bands. But I think some oversees bands really resonated with the britpop audience so I'm definitely considering them as part of this project.
Thanks for your comments. Much appreciated and I will check out that video in a bit 😄
Swedish innit. And not Britpop, more indie-pop. Completely different aesthetic.
Yeah, but see earlier discussion: did the Cardigans crash the Britpop party? It's a debatable one but I'm thinking of including them to show open-mindedness towards international bands. I agree it's a different aesthetic but Britpop had a range of aesthetics. The irony and heavily retro feel to that album meant it resonated with Britpop fans. Plus they cover Sabbath!!
It just occurred to me that if anything they were more like ABBA. Especially on that hit they had which I can't remember the name but it went " love me love me" or something like that. Sounded like Abba circa 1976. Which isn't necessarily a bad horrible thing.
You must be thinking of 'lovefool'. I don't think they have quite the same oomp pa pa as Abba though hehe
Swedish innit. And not Britpop, more indie-pop. Completely different aesthetic.
Yeah, but see earlier discussion: did the Cardigans crash the Britpop party? It's a debatable one but I'm thinking of including them to show open-mindedness towards international bands. I agree it's a different aesthetic but Britpop had a range of aesthetics. The irony and heavily retro feel to that album meant it resonated with Britpop fans. Plus they cover Sabbath!!
Do you think there's any American acts that would fall into that category you talked about with international bands that were like Britpop? I can't think of any can you? There's gotta be something though.
I cant think of any really. We did get a load come over during britpop ofcourse who were popular with britpop fans. I think they would mostly get called punk pop or power pop though. The Fun Loving Criminals spring to mind as a band that were curiously popular during britpop in Britain and not so much in America apperently. Totally different genre ofcourse, but I think the humour and good times vibe worked for the UK audience.
There's not too much that links this to britpop musically(though Texas are listed as britpop on Wikipeadia). The main thing is that they were memorably championed by TFI Friday presenter, Chris Evans, and appeared on this show a couple of times. TFI was pretty central to all thing britpop really so I think Texas seem like a britpop band mainly by association.
I've enjoyed this for a few listens. It's slick, well-made, pop/rock that mostly sounds really like it could have been made at any point since about 1980 (though the production is a polished 90s feel).There are some good songs, certainly the strong singles and a couple of others as well. 'Good advice' changes things up nicely with a slightly groovier late night vibe (something like Morcheeba) and closing ballad breathless is genuinely uplifting. "Black-eyed boy" and "Say what you want" were amongst the most infectious sounding singles of 97 and still sound great.
For me, it's a little too slick and slightly bland in places, but well worth sticking on every now and then for a feel-good and easy on the ear listen.
Yeah this is one of the ones that I found on a list of britpop bands that I never heard of. But I still haven't listened to it. After listening to 60 ft Dolls I got discouraged. But this sounds better. I think at the time I checked to see if YouTube or Spotify had it and I think they did.
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